gimme your paw already.....plz?

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i have been trying to teach my dog the paw trick for a couple of days and it really isnt going well. he only knows 'sit'.....basically thats it. he is a 5 year old tibetan terrier and he is wild around strangers. sometimes when i try to teach him a new command he puts his tail between his legs like im going to punish him. other times he is just confused and jumps on the couch and sits down. i dont know what to do....
 
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Maybe you should seek professional help since there seems to be other issues going on with your dog.

Shake was the first trick I taught Midnite and she caught on rather quickly. In the sit position I would ask Midnite for her paw and then lift her paw myself. After a few days of doing that she began to give me her paw every time I said paw and sometimes even when I didn't. :rolleyes:

Another thing to remember about tricks is that some dogs are good at some tricks while others aren't. Try to find a trick that best suits your dog's ability. And if he's not getting a trick instead of continuing with that go to something he knows so that he gets positive reinforcement. Training sessions should also only last for about 15 minutes.​
 
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I taught Chyna and a few other dogs "Paw" in pretty much the same way Luvablelabs did. I would first take her paw in my hand and say "paw!" and then "good paw"! and give her a treat after. It only took a few times before she "got it" (and the other dogs too). But then there have been some who just didn't "get it". Some dogs just plain don't like their feet touched.
If your dog doesn't learn it, it's no biggie. It's not a necessary command!

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I got mine to shake hands after teaching it to sit.

I basically get the dog to sit, grab it's paw and shake it up and down and say shake hands. Took 15mins

now if I say shake hands, she raises her paw and put it on top of my hand. If I do not put my hand out for her she moves it up and down by herself.

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Are you making it fun and being cheerful? Do you have some yummy treats? Make sure it's all a game and don't let yourself get frustrated. He's probably picking up on your sense of urgency that he learns this trick. Make it light hearted and no big deal. Just pick up his little paw and give him a treat when you do....give him a little pat and do it again. Add the command word in a friendly, quiet way...."shake" or whatever word you're going to use. "gooooooood shake" in a very cheery voice. Do it about 5 times and then do something else the dog loves to do. Does he like to chase a ball? You can intersperse a little game inbetween training skills. Like it was said....short sessions and be sure to end on a good note...something he does well.
 
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Doberluv said:
Are you making it fun and being cheerful? Do you have some yummy treats? Make sure it's all a game and don't let yourself get frustrated. He's probably picking up on your sense of urgency that he learns this trick. Make it light hearted and no big deal. Just pick up his little paw and give him a treat when you do....give him a little pat and do it again. Add the command word in a friendly, quiet way...."shake" or whatever word you're going to use. "gooooooood shake" in a very cheery voice. Do it about 5 times and then do something else the dog loves to do. Does he like to chase a ball? You can intersperse a little game inbetween training skills. Like it was said....short sessions and be sure to end on a good note...something he does well.
i always play ball with him after. and i use a nice tone in my voice. he just doesn't get it. he knows i have the treat in my hand and he'll just spend the whole time going after it. and i tried to teach my dog shake but he doesnt like water or air against his face (except when he sticks his head out the car window....whats up with that?). he justs tries to bite the air....and he starts complaining if you do it too much.
 

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he knows i have the treat in my hand and he'll just spend the whole time going after it.
Try instead, to keep the treats on the counter or somewhere a little ways off, rather than in your hand. Do you have a clicker? Or a ball point pet that you can make that clicking sound? This is a perfect example of a good use of clicker training. First you "prime" the dog by click/treat, click/treat about 20 times in a row. He doesn't have to do anything....just associate that click sound with getting a treat afterwards. When you click and he looks expectant, like he knows he's about to get a treat, you know then, that he has made this association.

Now, you pick up his foot, click, walk over to the counter and get a tiny treat and praise him.

If you feel he's not respecting you and being all silly when you're trying to show him something, maybe he needs a little more basic obedience first. You can also teach him, "watch me." Hold a treat by your forehead and when he looks up at you, click/treat. Teach him to watch (pay attention) to you on command. Then other things will come easier. He has to have his attention on you, not the enviornment.

Basically, in order to make an enviornment whereby your dog loves learning and is eager, you'll have to find ways to motivate him. Some dogs are easier to motivate than others. Find out what floats your dog's boat. You sound like you're frustrated. Try to take it less seriously, so your pup doesn't feel your tension. Maybe I'm wrong here. It's hard to get a real feel sometimes over the Internet.


and i tried to teach my dog shake but he doesnt like water or air against his face (except when he sticks his head out the car window....whats up with that?). he justs tries to bite the air....and he starts complaining if you do it too much.
What does water or air have to do with the dog shaking? (Are we talking about shaking hands?) LOL. That's what I was talking about anyway.
 

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Shake was the first trick I taught Midnite and she caught on rather quickly. In the sit position I would ask Midnite for her paw and then lift her paw myself. After a few days of doing that she began to give me her paw every time I said paw and sometimes even when I didn't. :rolleyes:
Heh. I know this one well... my dog's solution to everything is give paw. Get up on the couch? Give paw. Get me to play with him? Give paw. Share what I'm eating? Give paw...

I dont even have to command him anymore. Anytime I have something he wants ... he gives a paw. There's something to be said about havign a stubborn and intelligent dog. He takes FOREVER to learn other tricks (possibly my fault!) but give paw? He got that one in 15 minutes.... LOL
 
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Try instead, to keep the treats on the counter or somewhere a little ways off, rather than in your hand. Do you have a clicker? Or a ball point pet that you can make that clicking sound? This is a perfect example of a good use of clicker training. First you "prime" the dog by click/treat, click/treat about 20 times in a row. He doesn't have to do anything....just associate that click sound with getting a treat afterwards. When you click and he looks expectant, like he knows he's about to get a treat, you know then, that he has made this association.

Now, you pick up his foot, click, walk over to the counter and get a tiny treat and praise him.

If you feel he's not respecting you and being all silly when you're trying to show him something, maybe he needs a little more basic obedience first. You can also teach him, "watch me." Hold a treat by your forehead and when he looks up at you, click/treat. Teach him to watch (pay attention) to you on command. Then other things will come easier. He has to have his attention on you, not the enviornment.

Basically, in order to make an enviornment whereby your dog loves learning and is eager, you'll have to find ways to motivate him. Some dogs are easier to motivate than others. Find out what floats your dog's boat. You sound like you're frustrated. Try to take it less seriously, so your pup doesn't feel your tension. Maybe I'm wrong here. It's hard to get a real feel sometimes over the Internet.




What does water or air have to do with the dog shaking? (Are we talking about shaking hands?) LOL. That's what I was talking about anyway.
yea i guess he does need more basic training but probably by a professional because i feel that my family and i no longer have much control over him. whenever a stranger comes in the house he barks like crazy, he sees a squirrel same thing. we tried to train him but he just doesn't listen. and since my family cant afford a professional to do it for us i guess he'll just keep being the way he is. and yes, im very frustrated but i don't present it in my voice and let him know.

and by shake i thought you meant shake his head as if in a disagreement.
 

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yea i guess he does need more basic training but probably by a professional because i feel that my family and i no longer have much control over him. whenever a stranger comes in the house he barks like crazy, he sees a squirrel same thing. we tried to train him but he just doesn't listen. and since my family cant afford a professional to do it for us i guess he'll just keep being the way he is. and yes, im very frustrated but i don't present it in my voice and let him know.

and by shake i thought you meant shake his head as if in a disagreement.
Have you tried taking him to an obedience class? They generally last 6 - 8 weeks and it's a group class.

Some dogs need more obedience classes beyond the one that a lot of people use as the norm. If you haven't tried obedience classes I'd look into that before you give up or just figure he will always be this way.
 
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Have you tried taking him to an obedience class? They generally last 6 - 8 weeks and it's a group class.

Some dogs need more obedience classes beyond the one that a lot of people use as the norm. If you haven't tried obedience classes I'd look into that before you give up or just figure he will always be this way.
no my dad will definitely not pay for anything like that. he doesn't have the money. and i dont think i trust anyone taking care of my dog for that period of time without me.
 

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Well, you don't leave your dog with someone. You go and learn how to train your dog and you go once a week or so and practice at home the rest of the time. But if that's not financially possible, then you can learn how to work with your dog in a more effective way right at home. I know you can do it.

Spend some time reading some things and really think about or picture yourself doing some of the things you are reading about. Practice one little thing at a time and don't worry about making the dog perfect in every way all at once. When you're first learning new ways to train, you have to get rid of old habits which weren't effective and replace them with what you learn.

Before you work with your dog, make sure he's had a good walk so he's a little tired, but not exhausted so that he can't concentrate. Then work with him for the amount of time he seems interested and then quit on a good note. Motivate him. Get excited. Do it every day and I bet you'll see some improvement. Here are a couple of sites....can't remember if I listed them before or not:

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18506&page=2

http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/dog.htm (this is a huge library of information on just about anything you want to know...lots of links)
 
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Heh. I know this one well... my dog's solution to everything is give paw. Get up on the couch? Give paw. Get me to play with him? Give paw. Share what I'm eating? Give paw...

I dont even have to command him anymore. Anytime I have something he wants ... he gives a paw. There's something to be said about havign a stubborn and intelligent dog. He takes FOREVER to learn other tricks (possibly my fault!) but give paw? He got that one in 15 minutes.... LOL

Haha....that's so totally Chyna! And if she doesn't get whatever she's after with the "paw", she will go through the "sit", "down" and then "paw" again in rapid succession. It's hilarious!

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