Getting Chico Neutered at the end of the Month! Questions!

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At the end of the month Chico who will be 7 months will be getting neutered. My question is will he stay overnight in the clinic or will he come home the same day? Also how long does the incision take to heal and how will it take before we notice any behaviour changes in him?
 

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My present cats & dogs are females, & my vet keeps them overnight. Being male, the op is a lot easier, so it would depend on your vet, you can ask when you make the appointment. Being neutered doesn't change behaviour, it only stops males from wandering & wanting females. Most bad behaviour is learned, so needs to be adressed in the usual way.
If he's still squatting he may well still do so. My last male dog was almost 15 yrs ago, so he was neutered 24 yrs ago. We got him from a shelter & in those days they did them at 6 mths. Scamp used to squat & lift his leg.
I don't know how they do it these days but sometimes they don't use stitches, just press the skin together, I think that was the way Scamp was done, from memory.
 

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At the end of the month Chico who will be 7 months will be getting neutered. My question is will he stay overnight in the clinic or will he come home the same day? Also how long does the incision take to heal and how will it take before we notice any behaviour changes in him?

My dog Marley is in today getting neutered. Our vet has us bring them in at 8am and we can pick him up at 4pm if everything goes okay. We have never had any problems with any of our dogs getting neutered they all did great. I think the incision usually takes 7 days and then you will bring him in to get his stitches out. If your dog is having aggression problems with other dogs this WILL help him. We had three brothers that were getting into some serious fights after they were neutered they never fought again. Ours also don't lift their legs EVER. I think the key is to get them in early all of ours went in when they were about 6 to 7 months old.
 

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Everytime I have had a dog spayed or neutered except for one but she was disabled and they had to keep her for observation came home as soon as the meds wore off. And at the age he is since he has most likely not really "matured" you will probably not see a distinct change. he will when he is older have less a desire to wander less. My puppy that was neutered at 6 mths still squats to pee and doesnt mark and never had an intrest in it.
 

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whether or not they'll keep him overnight depends on your vet clinic. i would call them and ask what their routine is. we don't keep them where i work now. the practice where i worked overnights kept all spays and neuters overnight after surgery because they did surgery all day long instead of just in the mornings, so often times pets were not awake enough to go home the day of surgery.
 

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If your dog is having aggression problems with other dogs this WILL help him
That is a dangerous statement, it may or may not help with dog aggression.

We had three brothers that were getting into some serious fights after they were neutered they never fought again.
I'm very happy for you that your dogs stopped fighting, that must be such a nightmare!!

Ours also don't lift their legs EVER. I think the key is to get them in early all of ours went in when they were about 6 to 7 months old.
Neutering may or may not have an impact on marking behaivor. I recently saw a female back up to a fence post and mark. Dominance isn't always driven by the level of testosterone in a dog!!!

Neutering isn't a fix all for male dogs. I'm glad the OP is getting the dog neutered but depending what exactly "before we notice any behaviour changes in him? " means there is probably other steps that should be taken as well
 

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Good post Barb. Thinking that neutering will fix everything with a male dog is a dangerous and misinformed idea. There is no substitute for training.
 

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We have had 19 male dogs over the years that were neutered. All of them were fixed before a year old most by six months. NONE of them EVER lifted legs to mark NEVER. Now the German Shepherds we bred and were never fixed lifted their legs and fought. Even when our last female died the two males left fought it was very hard to control them. If you have a neutered dog he will be a happy and calmer dog. I don't know how anyone can deny that. Of course it won't solve all issues but it sure helps. We also had two schnauzer lhasa ahpso mixes when I was a kid Benji was a fighter he would even take on the GSD's he was not fixed. Hobie on the other hands squatted all his life and would not attempt to hurt a fly. I have so much evidence to support the fact that simply neutering WILL take care of most of your problems. I have NEVER in my life seen a male that was neutered before a year mark territory I guess it is possible but from all the dogs I have had and my family and friends I have never seen it.
 

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Good post Barb. Thinking that neutering will fix everything with a male dog is a dangerous and misinformed idea. There is no substitute for training.
I never said it would fix everything I said it would help. Our three boys had serious jealousy issues and sibling rivalry going on and all that testosterone mixed in really had them going crazy. Since they have been fixed not one fight has happened. Now I am sure it is in part due to training and they have matured and they know now they are ALL showered with attention. I really think if we did not have them fixed there would have been more fights.
 

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Neutering may or may not have an impact on marking behaivor. I recently saw a female back up to a fence post and mark. Dominance isn't always driven by the level of testosterone in a dog!!!


I really can't speak for what females will do when spayed or not. My mom has a spayed Lhasa ahpso but I have not been around her much. My experience with the males overwhelmingly shows me that neutering helps. We have a house of 9 dogs 1 cat and 2 kids so I can't take chances of fights breaking out.
 

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Goldiefur, our pug was neutered at 5 months. He marks everywhere. He'll spend 30 minutes outside doing nothing but marking. Half the time nothing comes out. He's over 5 years old now and this is how he's done it his entire life, since before he was neutered. He even marks inside. If I go upstairs and the other dogs follow me and he doesn't, a lot of times he'll mark on the bottom step. He is the most aggressive out of all our dogs even though he's a little guy.

Meanwhile our GSD is nearly 3 and intact. He doesn't roam, and doesn't mark except for a few certain trees and bushes in our yard. He's not marking every 10 feet when we are on a walk. He didn't even lift his leg till he was 10 months old. He's got some minor dog aggression issues but he's way better than he used to be. He can now go off leash for an entire obedience session without any problem, where a year ago, he couldn't. He wants to be the boss and he lets the other dogs know it as soon as he walks onto the field by how he carries himself. He doesn't fight or go after any other dogs. The only time we've had a problem is when another dog gets loose and runs up to him and gets in his face. At that point, he will let them know they have overstepped their bounds.

I'm not telling anyone to neuter or not neuter their pets, but hearing the same stories over and over about what it will cure gets old. How can people do activities where dogs are not neutered- agility, show ring, etc, where there are many intact dogs around and there not be problems? Because it's all about training.
 

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I would really like to hear from other people with neutered dogs that still mark. This really amazes me because I have never seen it. I have seen dogs that got fixed at like age 2 and they just kept marking and continued in all their old tricks. But The way I say it is if you fix them before they lift their leg they will never lift it. I can't be the luckiest person in the world can I?:lol-sign:

We will have to agree to disagree on the training though I think training is part of the equation. I'm dealing with a lot of dogs here so there is not much one on one time. They all had basic training but I could not deal with fights breaking out every other day and that is what happened with the males that were not fixed. Now our GSD's did go out and compete and they would go to this police dog competition and they never fought with other dogs it was only at home with the other males not constant fights but there was a few that got bad and the one that did go on to be a police dog he had a grudge against his brother after that last fight. He would just tear at his kennel to get him and we were never able to put those two together for that last month. He did go on to have a great life with a wonderful police officer so it worked out for him.
 

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We had Leo neutered at 10 weeks, and he went in first thing in the morning, and we picked him up at 5:00 that night. It depends on the vet. Sometimes they stay I think most of the time you can take him home. His wound healed in about a week and a half. Just make sure he's not licking the stitches or it will be a lot longer.
 

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Here ya go. This is all he'll do when he's outside. Mark a piece of grass, turn around, sniff it, mark it from the other side.

 

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I'm also sure having a house of nine dogs versus a house of two or three must play a role. My friend that has two dogs and no children has a very calm house and really good calm dogs. (they are neutered though) But here it is a madhouse:yikes: and I have to do everything I can to keep things cool. I can't imagine how it would be with all that testosterone running around.
 

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Here ya go. This is all he'll do when he's outside. Mark a piece of grass, turn around, sniff it, mark it from the other side.

I don't know what to think of it.:lol-sign: I just got some info from someone that has two male poodles that got neutered at 14 months and they lift their legs so much she puts diapers on them when they are inside.:yikes: Maybe it is something with little dogs.:confused: I am glad I don't have to put diapers on my Goldens.
 

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At the end of the month Chico who will be 7 months will be getting neutered. My question is will he stay overnight in the clinic or will he come home the same day? Also how long does the incision take to heal and how will it take before we notice any behaviour changes in him?
In 7 to 10 days Marley will go in to get his stitches out and he got to come home at 3pm. I hope that helps!
 

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Okay the person that has the poodles that mark said they did start lifting their before they were fixed. Did your Pug lift his leg before he was neutered? If they learn the behavior before they are fixed I am sure most will continue it. I never let mine go that long as soon as my vet agrees it is time they go in right away to get fixed. My vet usually likes to do it between 4 and 7 months.
 

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But fixing a male dog before he lifts his leg and then them never lifting their leg doesn't answer the females that mark.

A housefull of dominate dogs, male or female, fixed or intact is going to lead to fights if the dogs are not kept seperate.

I have a friend that has a springer spaniel that who was neutered at 10 weeks and he marks after every single dog. Her female Rott/Dobe/Lab who was spayed at 12 weeks then marks over the springer. It really can get amusing at times watching these two dogs mark over each other. It's a dominance behaviour and has less to do with testosterone than many people want to think.

Dante was neutered at 14 months. It did not make him calmer, it made no change in his behaviour what so ever.

And I want to make this clear, I'm NOT saying that people shouldn't have their male dogs neutered. What I am saying is that neutering isn't a fix for many behaviour issues, training is.
 

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We got Bruzer fixed after he started lifting his leg, but hindsight being 20/20, we should have waited until he was older.

Personally, I don't like neutering a male dog before he's fully grown. Those hormones are produced for a reason, and bad male habits are not one of them. You probably shouldn't neuter a female before she's full grown either, but that introduces a set of complications that most people don't want to deal with. Certainly getting our Daisy fixed before she went into heat with an intact male in the house was a factor in our choice.
 

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