Free Dog Training Guide Site

[azpoochluvr]

Hi all,

I'm giving away a free dog training and obedience guide on my site. Please feel free to take advantage.

Chris

FREE Dog Training Guide

 

[Dekka]

I have to say these sites annoy me. Most people will not fill out their information with out at least a little info about what they are getting.

We all know few people can fix all their dog's issues from reading alone (even when what you are reading is amazing). That is why even here, where we give out lots of great free advice, we recommend people go to a good trainer or behaviourist. But I would never use, link to, recommend a site that doesn't talk about the training style at all, and just makes huge claims off the bat.

 

[AllieMackie]

You seem like a nice person in your other posts, so...

Just for the record, all the regulars here see this kind of affiliate marketing website all. The. Time. Every few weeks we have someone link something like this. It's very aggravating, especially to those of us who are members of this forum first and foremost for the sake of our dogs and to meet like-minded dog people, and who happen to have a pet-related business we work hard for WITHOUT affiliate marketing that we advertise -sometimes- (like myself).

This forum is a wealth of free literature AND discussion on dog training.

 

[azpoochluvr]

Just adding to the wealth is all. It's a free country, last I checked. I respect your opinions, but that's all they are. This is a place to add websites, that's what I did. I could see you being annoyed if I came in here and started spamming my link all over the forum, but that's not what I did. I love dogs and pet marketing is MY business (and it's a legitimate and highly lucrative one), just like you have your business. I would appreciate the same respect afforded to other members. I have contributed to this forum and made no attempt to sell anyone anything.

 

[MandyPug]

Well i certainly wouldn't bother with your site there.

It looks very fake "pop up ad" like.

What training methods are used? Clickers? Shock Collars? Prongs?

There's not enough info or legit looking anything for me to put my email address in. It looks like i'd get spammed with who knows what.

 

[azpoochluvr]

Well i certainly wouldn't bother with your site there.

It looks very fake "pop up ad" like.

What training methods are used? Clickers? Shock Collars? Prongs?

There's not enough info or legit looking anything for me to put my email address in. It looks like i'd get spammed with who knows what.

That's your opinion, and I respect that. Again, I'm not spamming the forum, so there shouldn't be a problem. I actually talk about lots of different training methods, and I give away all sorts of free guides about adoption, dog bites, health, feed, massage, etc.

As some of you have your businesses, affiliate marketing is my business. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not here because of that, but it only make sense to put the link in my signature. I see many others that have their business links in their signatures as well.

This is actually the only dog forum I belong too, and that's because I love dogs.

I actually get on the average 90-100 sign ups every day, and I make alomst $70,000 per year from it. It's very lucrative. In fact, some of you may want to consider affiliate marketing as a means of part time (or full time) income.

Your knowledge of dogs is an asset that you could use to make money. It's a talent, and making money with it is perfectly alright. It's not unethical at all. People pay for information.

 

[AllieMackie]

Affiliate marketing takes advantage of people's naive natures. I will have no part in it. I prefer human-to-human contact and affiliating myself with other businesses by actively involving myself with them.

I don't make $70,000 a year, but I'm also not living life to make money.

Also, you haven't answered the question as to what style of training advice your site gives us.

 

[azpoochluvr]

Affiliate marketing takes advantage of people's naive natures. I will have no part in it. I prefer human-to-human contact and affiliating myself with other businesses by actively involving myself with them.

I don't make $70,000 a year, but I'm also not living life to make money.

Also, you haven't answered the question as to what style of training advice your site gives us.

That's completely untrue. Couldn't be farther from the truth. Again, just an opinion, which in the whole scheme of things doesn't really matter.

And about not "living to make money". I don't "live to make money" either. Doesn't mean I'm not going to make as much of it as possible. I like my sportscar and townhouse, and I work very hard for what I have.

As far as the style of training, the guide I give away is a general guide about training a new puppy. It gives general information for someone who is new to owning a dog.

If you want to know what it is so bad, sign up and you'll get it. Otherwise, just drop it. This is becoming unproductive and I'm a little tired of being judged by people who don't know anything about me.

 

[Dekka]

Just adding to the wealth is all. It's a free country, last I checked. I respect your opinions, but that's all they are. This is a place to add websites, that's what I did. I could see you being annoyed if I came in here and started spamming my link all over the forum, but that's not what I did. I love dogs and pet marketing is MY business (and it's a legitimate and highly lucrative one), just like you have your business. I would appreciate the same respect afforded to other members. I have contributed to this forum and made no attempt to sell anyone anything.

well as you seemed to be a real member (vs a spammer) I thought you might want some feedback. If you love dogs you might want to make your site more about dogs vs suckering people in. (anyone who signs up sight unseen for a product they know nothing about imo is at least some level being suckered)

The 'free' is also misleading. If you make that much then its not free....

 

[AllieMackie]

As far as the style of training, the guide I give away is a general guide about training a new puppy. It gives general information for someone who is new to owning a dog.

If you want to know what it is so bad, sign up and you'll get it. Otherwise, just drop it. This is becoming unproductive and I'm a little tired of being judged by people who don't know anything about me.

Doesn't really answer MandyPug's original question. What training techniques are used - positive/negative reinforcers? Clickers?

I won't sign up to get it. You see, I read your "email privacy" agreement and it is like any other affiliate marketing site - if I enter my email and receive this training guide containing less info than on this forum, I will also receive ABSOLUTELY FREE all sorts of unwanted email marketing in my inbox. No thanks. My spam folder is busy enough as it is with people spoofing my account.

I am entitled to my opinion as you are to yours. I get annoyed by people dropping sites with sight-unseen dog training information on here when many people on this site make their living as proper dog trainers and work hard on helpful forum posts on dog training that will help everyone who does a simple forum search for them. No email spam required.

 

[azpoochluvr]

I'm afraid none of you understand what my business is all about and have developed stereotypical opinions. That's no problem, and it really doesn't bother me too much at all. However, I won't be replying to this thread anymore as it's quite a waste of my valuable time. Best wishes to you all.

 

[AllieMackie]

My opinions are based on past experiences. Care to elaborate on what your business is about and how it benefits dogs?

 

[eddieq]

Ok, clearly there is a difference of opinion here. You've all said what's on your mind. Lord knows that I'm the mod with the "itchy trigger finger" when it comes to spam/potential spam and I actually removed this thread at first as a knee jerk, but the fact remains that this particular forum is for dog sites/pet sites and the thread is in the right location. Chris has not "spammed the board" with his site (yes, I know, his link is in his signature, but you don't have to click it) and he's participating. How about we don't run him off at this time?

Thanks to everyone for keeping it civil, though

 

[azpoochluvr]

My opinions are based on past experiences. Care to elaborate on what your business is about and how it benefits dogs?

No. I don't think so. Not here. There is no point, and it would be a waste of time. As far as how it benefits dogs? It's pretty obvious. If you supply people with quality information that shows them how to care for their dog better, doesn't it benefit the dog? Furthermore (and I'm not trying to be cold here, I'm in business to make money.

Now, I didn't join this forum to make money. I joined it to maybe learn a few things to benefit my own dog, but I'll never convince you people of that, and frankly, I don't even care to try. My time is more productive spent doing other things. Like making money. Good day to you.

 

[AllieMackie]

No. I don't think so. Not here. There is no point, and it would be a waste of time. As far as how it benefits dogs? It's pretty obvious. If you supply people with quality information that shows them how to care for their dog better, doesn't it benefit the dog? Furthermore (and I'm not trying to be cold here, I'm in business to make money.

Now, I didn't join this forum to make money. I joined it to maybe learn a few things to benefit my own dog, but I'll never convince you people of that, and frankly, I don't even care to try. My time is more productive spent doing other things. Like making money. Good day to you.

Fair enough. I'm not trying to run you off the board. You're one of the first people who links an affiliate marketing website on here and doesn't stroll off into the sunset with no interest in being a member of the forum. I'm just trying to figure out where your business comes from. I'm not being rude in the least.

I'll drop it if you don't want to discuss it. One person's opinion is not the opinion of an entire forum, so don't let my opinion run you off.

 

[Renee750il]

I've been following this with interest, as I was asked to edit/rewrite a guide for exactly this application . . .

I have very mixed feelings about it . . .

 

[azpoochluvr]

Fair enough. I'm not trying to run you off the board. You're one of the first people who links an affiliate marketing website on here and doesn't stroll off into the sunset with no interest in being a member of the forum. I'm just trying to figure out where your business comes from. I'm not being rude in the least.

I'll drop it if you don't want to discuss it. One person's opinion is not the opinion of an entire forum, so don't let my opinion run you off.

Thank-you. Again, my intention in joining this forum is not to try and sell anything to anybody. I don't use forums as a means of marketing my products. Never have, never will.

I understand many marketers do, and it's not something I think is a great idea.

However, I see nothing wrong with putting my link in my squeeze page, as many other members put their business website links there I'm sure.

As I said, mine is a business like anyone else, and I'm not forcing anyone to click or promoting it in any way.

The only reason I posted it here was because it was thread for websites, and I actually do give away a 25 page guide that I thought might help a new dog owner. No malicious intent whatsoever here.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

I don't see why people have a problem with azpoochluvr posting his/her site.

This section of the forum is called Dog Sites and Pet sites. If this member is 'spamming' please explain why? AllieMackie has a link to her business in her signature as well, yet that has gone unquestioned. (Allie that was not at all a poke at you, you were just a convenient example )

Not only is that what this section of the forum is for, but who says anyone HAS to click on the link or HAS to join up with the site or even HAS to open this thread? If you are not interested, or not attracted to the site, just don't click on it. It's not terribly confusing. I almost feel as though people clicked on the site with the INTENTION of finding something wrong with it, and something to complain about. Sheesh.

Furthermore, I think it is also important to note that this particular member actually has been contributing to chaz and has not just dumped a link and left.

I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

[AllieMackie]

I don't see why people have a problem with azpoochluvr posting his/her site.

This section of the forum is called Dog Sites and Pet sites. If this member is 'spamming' please explain why? AllieMackie has a link to her business in her signature as well, yet that has gone unquestioned. (Allie that was not at all a poke at you, you were just a convenient example )

Not only is that what this section of the forum is for, but who says anyone HAS to click on the link or HAS to join up with the site or even HAS to open this thread? If you are not interested, or not attracted to the site, just don't click on it. It's not terribly confusing. I almost feel as though people clicked on the site with the INTENTION of finding something wrong with it, and something to complain about. Sheesh.

Furthermore, I think it is also important to note that this particular member actually has been contributing to chaz and has not just dumped a link and left.

I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

Never said he was spamming. In fact, multiple times I mentioned that the reason I was questioning it was BECAUSE he's an active member of the site and not just a fly-by-night linkdropper.

Personally I have a beef with the majority of affiliate marketing plans. I don't like them as a business model, I think they're impersonal and rely on naivete. Again, I'm not directly bashing azpoochlvr here, I admit to being harsh on him, but I've dropped it. He knows my opinion of the site, and that's it.

If he's an active contributing member of this site, IMO he can share his pet related business. We're all allowed to share opinions of websites as well, however.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

Never said he was spamming.

I realize, and I wasn't really directing my comments at anyone in particular. I felt as though the OP was being treated harshly and as though some people believed him to be posting spam, which was why I mentioned that

Personally I have a beef with the majority of affiliate marketing plans. I don't like them as a business model, I think they're impersonal and rely on naivete.

I totally understand (and can't say I disagree). And hey, I guess one way to look at it is poster's loss for choosing a poor method (OP this is not directed at you, this is directed at anyone with poor marketing skills Like I said, I don't have a problem with you posting here.)

Again, I'm not directly bashing azpoochlvr here, I admit to being harsh on him, but I've dropped it. He knows my opinion of the site, and that's it.

If he's an active contributing member of this site, IMO he can share his pet related business. We're all allowed to share opinions of websites as well, however.

I agree, we are all entitled to opinions. You can voice yours, as long as I can argue with you :lol-sign: lol jk.