Forcefully "relaxing" a dog?

milos_mommy

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I've seen this (kind of) twice, recently.

I met with a trainer from the rescue group to work on Tom's reactivity. After he saw another dog and started barking/lunging, and the other dog went out of site, we asked him for a sit, and he did, but he was visibly very tense, stiff-legged, ears tense, staring at where the other dog went around the corner.

The trainer massaged his back after he sat (I found out later there's a pressure point) and he did become more relaxed.

A girl I work with is taking dog training classes, I have no idea how legit they are or anything about it. We have a pit bull at day care who runs around, uber excited, with a tennis ball in his mouth, for SEVEN hours straight. He *may* lie down for 5-10 minutes once if every other dog is lying and down and you don't look at him, but otherwise he's trotting around manically looking for someone to play tug with him.

The girl came in, asked him to sit, and massaged the same point. It took a while, but Brady did relax slightly. She then got him to lie down, somehow got the ball out of his mouth, and held him down while she placed the ball a few inches away. He started to get up but she held him there, but she was massaging him/praising him calmly the whole time. It was kind of a forced down, but not like I've seen it done before. Eventually she threw the ball, he tried to jump up, but she held him there praising him and rubbing him. Eventually, he DID relax, I've never seen him loose-bodied before. I could even see his face relaxing. She did that for probably 5-10 minutes.

When she finished, Brady got up and played ball again, but he did so a little more calmly and after we finished, he lied down for about 45 minutes, got up and wrestled with another dog (without a tennis ball), and then came and laid down in my lap. He was like an entirely different dog for the next 2-3 hours until he went home. It seemed to me like a combination of T-touch and a forced down, if that makes sense...

Good idea? Bad idea? Anyone have any articles on stuff like this?
 

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I have no idea what technique this is...but I want to learn & apply it immediately! Do ya know if it is supposed to calm them in the long run? Or is it really only a situational thing?
 

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I have no idea what technique this is...but I want to learn & apply it immediately! Do ya know if it is supposed to calm them in the long run? Or is it really only a situational thing?
I have NO idea. I imagine it's a situational thing...but the thing about Brady (the ball obsessed pit bull) is that he does not know HOW to relax. I thing for a dog like him doing something like this, or even regular t-touch, would be beneficial over time because it would let him know HOW to physically relax, and maybe eventually he'd be able to do it on his own?

In a stressful situation, massaging helps people relax, so it makes sense. I don't know if physically forcing a dog to stay put is a good idea, though. I don't think I'd want to do it on a fearful dog who would feel vulnerable being forced to lie down.
 

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I agree that forcing a dog down would do nothing to manage their behavior. However, asking a dog to down for 10 seconds to you can begin a massage that'll keep them voluntarily down for the rest of the duration isn't much force, imo.
 

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pressure points, ttouch, calming words, I never would have been able to turn Victor around if I did not learn and access these. Well worth looking into and developing the skills.
 
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I don't think they're talking about "forcing" your dog down by trying to shove them into the ground against their will. But rather a intentional calming hand used to apply a "force" into a downward position.

it is valuable and and excellent tool for all dogs, scared ones included.
 

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