Eating Dogs, what do you think? *Disturbing*
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well i learned in history that most things don't feel pain for long when they are burned alive since our nerves are close to the skin and after the initial burns that you don't feel anything aside from the smoke you're breathing in.
i would NEVER eat a cat or a dog. i am korean and i know it's a problem. but the problem started when countries ran out of food and no longer had anything to eat aside from rodents and the pets they had. it came from necessity. i no longer think it is ok since they are doing so much better and have many different forms of food now
i would NEVER eat a cat or a dog. i am korean and i know it's a problem. but the problem started when countries ran out of food and no longer had anything to eat aside from rodents and the pets they had. it came from necessity. i no longer think it is ok since they are doing so much better and have many different forms of food now
People may have started off eating dogs over there due to a food shortage but I'm sure that raising dogs to eat, is still cheaper than trying to find grazing range for cattle over there. Dogs can subsist on what we consume ourselves, they don't need a large amount of food, nor a lot of room, like cattle and most other pasture animals.
I'm not going to knock another person's culture just because it's not similar to mine. That's my bottom line. Yes it's horrible how those animals are treated over there, but the slaughterhouse industry isn't much better. There are companies that are trying to make the deaths MORE humane, but we're a long way from being able to point fingers at other countries.
I can't say that I'd ever not try dog or cat or horse or whatever. I've had goat and as a kid i raised goats strictly as beloved pets... same with my chickens. They were all my pets but I won't turn down the meat now.
I'm not going to knock another person's culture just because it's not similar to mine. That's my bottom line. Yes it's horrible how those animals are treated over there, but the slaughterhouse industry isn't much better. There are companies that are trying to make the deaths MORE humane, but we're a long way from being able to point fingers at other countries.
I can't say that I'd ever not try dog or cat or horse or whatever. I've had goat and as a kid i raised goats strictly as beloved pets... same with my chickens. They were all my pets but I won't turn down the meat now.
I had vegetarian pasta. I'm a dedicated vegetarian, and I don't eat ANY meat at all, not prawns, lobster, fish, chicken, lamb, veal, beef, anything.
I decided that I could not truly call myself an animal activist, welfare worker and lover, if I continued to eat meat. It's not the eating so much, but the treatment and the way they are killed that sickens and appalls me.
One day, I hope to be vegan. I'm working towards it, but it's not easy. However, not all things really worth doing are easy!!
I decided that I could not truly call myself an animal activist, welfare worker and lover, if I continued to eat meat. It's not the eating so much, but the treatment and the way they are killed that sickens and appalls me.
One day, I hope to be vegan. I'm working towards it, but it's not easy. However, not all things really worth doing are easy!!
There was a documnetary on in England a few months ago about slaughterhouses.
VERY graphic. Just showed the men going about their work. Killing pigs - laughing and joking. It showed the kosher slaughterman, and how he did it.
It was VERY disturbing and saddening. If anyone can get hold of it to watch, I'd recommend it, just to see what goes on.
VERY graphic. Just showed the men going about their work. Killing pigs - laughing and joking. It showed the kosher slaughterman, and how he did it.
It was VERY disturbing and saddening. If anyone can get hold of it to watch, I'd recommend it, just to see what goes on.
raised well on most farms?
have you seen beef and dairy farms?
do you know many dairy cows never even actually get to go to ap asture once they start producing?
do you know how the animals are actually killed?
assuming we are any more kind and gentle to our food sources over here on this side of the big pond is pretty dangerous...
have you seen beef and dairy farms?
do you know many dairy cows never even actually get to go to ap asture once they start producing?
do you know how the animals are actually killed?
assuming we are any more kind and gentle to our food sources over here on this side of the big pond is pretty dangerous...
This has been discussed but to some up my opinion. It is not better nor worse than canabalism. The history we share and devotion they give us, make us very close culturally and our genetic history (we succeed because of them, they succeed because of us) thus I feel we are close enough to make eating them on par with canabalism. They are our partners not our cattle.
but they are!
thats my point.
have you seen chicken production plants? where the chickens live stacked in cages on top of eachother, so the chicken on the bottom is crapped on by all the ones on top?
or the places where the beaks are cut off so they cannot peck each other to death?
have you seen feedlots where beefcattle go? how packed they are?
thats my point.
have you seen chicken production plants? where the chickens live stacked in cages on top of eachother, so the chicken on the bottom is crapped on by all the ones on top?
or the places where the beaks are cut off so they cannot peck each other to death?
have you seen feedlots where beefcattle go? how packed they are?
Aus, You are not wrong about all farmers. Every piece of beef in my freezer came from free range cows.......out in the fields. And locally raised, butchered, and wrapped. From farms I have visited in the past.
Not to say none of these terrible conditions don't happen else where.....I know it does, but you are right.....there still are farmers that care about the quality of care and therefore meat produced.
Not to say none of these terrible conditions don't happen else where.....I know it does, but you are right.....there still are farmers that care about the quality of care and therefore meat produced.
Julie said:
Aus, You are not wrong about all farmers. Every piece of beef in my freezer came from free range cows.......out in the fields. And locally raised, butchered, and wrapped. From farms I have visited in the past.
Not to say none of these terrible conditions don't happen else where.....I know it does, but you are right.....there still are farmers that care about the quality of care and therefore meat produced.
Not to say none of these terrible conditions don't happen else where.....I know it does, but you are right.....there still are farmers that care about the quality of care and therefore meat produced.
Speaking from and experienced point of view, I know here chickens and cattle are dealt with and raised very humanely, how, because a few friends of mine are farmers and I have helped out, and they follow the common and modern farming techniques.
For chickens there is a very large barn in which you place the baby chicks in, it is bedded with straw everywhere and heated so the chickens are comfy, they have feeding baskets which are filled mechanically, and water pegs that they can peck for water. When they are old enough and big enough, they are then killed humanely.
(you take your right hand and hold a foot between your index and middle finger, the other foot between your ring and pinky finger, you then take your left hand placing the base of its skull between your index and middle finger and with a quick and fluid snap you separate the brainstem, and spinal cord. This death is quick and painless.)
For cattle they are given pasture and also have a barn area where they can go inside which is bedded and cleaned alot, they are fed at regular times, given water at regular times, etc. When they are ready to be slaughtered they are brought to a slaughter facilty that shoots them im the head, which is also quick and painless.
Anyway, that is here, as for other places I dont know, all I know is here they seem to be quite humane about it. Its sad to say some dont, but that is the reality of the world.
For chickens there is a very large barn in which you place the baby chicks in, it is bedded with straw everywhere and heated so the chickens are comfy, they have feeding baskets which are filled mechanically, and water pegs that they can peck for water. When they are old enough and big enough, they are then killed humanely.
(you take your right hand and hold a foot between your index and middle finger, the other foot between your ring and pinky finger, you then take your left hand placing the base of its skull between your index and middle finger and with a quick and fluid snap you separate the brainstem, and spinal cord. This death is quick and painless.)
For cattle they are given pasture and also have a barn area where they can go inside which is bedded and cleaned alot, they are fed at regular times, given water at regular times, etc. When they are ready to be slaughtered they are brought to a slaughter facilty that shoots them im the head, which is also quick and painless.
Anyway, that is here, as for other places I dont know, all I know is here they seem to be quite humane about it. Its sad to say some dont, but that is the reality of the world.