Dogs jumping on people/manners?

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Just curious because my other forum is kind of shocking me with the thoughts on this...

Is it okay for a dog to jump on someone you don't know? When is jumping on someone okay? Do you need explicit permission from them or is it okay if they just seem like it doesn't bother them?

Is manners training important to you when you are training your dog?
 

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I try to train my dogs that they are allowed to jump on me but not on other people...Sadly, they've forgotten that ever since we moved to a 16 acre property and they just don't see other people often enough.

I personally don't think it's ever OK for them to jump on other people, whether I know them or not. But if other dog owners are going to allow it, then I do think the dog should keep all feet on the ground until he's given the OK to jump. Otherwise it tends to be just an out of control nuisance.
 

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I don't think jumping on strangers is okay, regardless of if they seem fine with it or not. I don't like my dogs jumping up on my friends either, although some of them encourage it. They are allowed to jump up on me, but they know to knock it off if I tell them to.
 

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I allow mine to jump up on me, IF and only IF they are invited. They are only allowed to jump on other people if they are invited and I tell them that it's okay.
 
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Well, Traveler has decided that no jumping on people that aren't me means-don't touch people with your paws but jumping straight up, licking their nose and landing back on the ground without touching them is perfectly fine.

Honestly with Kaylee it's never been an issue because she's very reserved with most people outside the family and if she decides she likes someone that's not us it's because they have treats which means it's time for her to sit and stare them down.

With other dogs it bothers me, more so if the person can't stop them. If I'm at the dog park though I don't really care as long as it's not incessant, pushy and I can get them off me

But, Traveler is testing my resolve with jumping on strangers because they just invite it all the time. He will stop immediatly and sit when I ask but if only I could clicker train the other people.
 

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I have that same problem Linds. Enzo was/is still bad about jumping on people, but honestly, they invited her to, and I can't get them to stop, short of walking away. Which is what I do most of the time now :p
 

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Manners training is the first thing we teach our dogs. and IMO the most important.
I have visited homes where the dogs are just running amock and honestly I wouldn't be able to deal with it.

rule numero uno..ABSOLUTELY NO RUSHING THE DOOR/JUMPING.

They sit politely and wait for the person to approach or call them over but NEVER run up/jump on them.
and regardless if the guest is ok with it. its not ok for them to jump, it encourages bad habits.

They have their "spots" they know where the line is as far as how close to the door they can be when someone comes. Usually they sit in the kitchen somewhere

Any dog who rushes the door, barks, jumps on guests etc.. is put in a guest room/crate.
 

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Oh yeah, mine mess up some too... well actually one of mine messes up (guess who). I have to do a lot of redirecting and leave it to get her not to (and I load myself with cookies a lot of the time). If left to her own devices, her idea of 'greeting' someone is to jump on their lap and shove her tongue down their throat. Obviously this isnt' an appropriate greeting.

I just find jumping dogs generally obnoxious. I've been muddied up, slimed on, etc etc by strange dogs and I just don't enjoy it. I will be a lot more lenient with my own dogs and dogs I know jumping on me. I try my hardest to prevent mine from jumping on people and try to train them to not jump when they greet even though they're so small. The only time I let them jump is if they know someone and they're invited.

I was just surprised that a lot of people said they'd judge the person's reaction to their dog then decide if the person looked like they'd be okay with jumping or not.
 

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Well, Traveler has decided that no jumping on people that aren't me means-don't touch people with your paws but jumping straight up, licking their nose and landing back on the ground without touching them is perfectly fine.
:rofl1:
I need a video of that.
And I gotta say, it sounds cute enough and talented enough for it to be allowed. Now you just need to put it under stimulus control. :p

But, Traveler is testing my resolve with jumping on strangers because they just invite it all the time. He will stop immediatly and sit when I ask but if only I could clicker train the other people.
Yeah, I get that issue with the corgis. But when they tell me they don't mind being jumped on, I matter-of-factly inform them that I mind. Some get it. The others, well, either I get lucky and my dog remembers his training despite the encouragement from JQP and I call it a nice exercise in proofing or we walk away and the person gets a taste of P-.
 

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Also the thought that training too many manners and not to jump on people is squelching drive and damaging to a sports dog has been brought up. Thoughts? I disagree that training control hurts a dog as far as dogsports go....
 

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I have to remind izzie to keep 4 on the floor at times. I do it because not all folks coming in like a dog (no matter how small she is) jumping up on them. Some customers aren't cooperative though and go all baby talk "it's okay princess you just wanna sniff!" which doesn't help things same with those who try to boot her in the organs...
 

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I was just surprised that a lot of people said they'd judge the person's reaction to their dog then decide if the person looked like they'd be okay with jumping or not.
:confused:
Judge what part of a person's reaction? Because, ya know, just because I oooh and aaah and squeee and pet the dog doesn't at all mean I want to get jumped on, scratched, slobbered on, muddied up, nails snagging my clothes...
 

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:confused:
Judge what part of a person's reaction? Because, ya know, just because I oooh and aaah and squeee and pet the dog doesn't at all mean I want to get jumped on, scratched, slobbered on, muddied up, nails snagging my clothes...
I dunno. I asked because I won't visibly do anything, but I really don't like being jumped on by some unknown dog (especially a big one that is muddy). Apparently it's just 'easy to tell by the person's body language towards the dog'. :confused:

Maybe I'm just passive aggressive... I will respond by saying "Cute dog" and smiling but inside I'll be thinking their dog is obnoxious and being annoyed that I'm now muddy.
 

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Also the thought that training too many manners and not to jump on people is squelching drive and damaging to a sports dog has been brought up. Thoughts? I disagree that training control hurts a dog as far as dogsports go....
Nope.

If anything the frustration builds drive.

Sport training is about control and controlling the drives. By training manners you build control.
 

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I hate being jumped on. When we got Juno that was really my biggest fear, I thought jumping up would be a huge issue. Thank God I had that nipped in the bud before it even became a problem.

I can tolerate jumping pretty well as long as the dog is not wet/dirty, and not knocking me to the ground. I let Juno put her paws up on my shoulders when we're playing.... that doesn't bother me because she's not obnoxious about it. But there's nothing tolerable about a big 80lb lab incessantly slamming into you.

At the end of the day, as long as it's not MY dog who's doing the jumping, I'm okay.
 

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Not sure if you've read it or not, but here was my response to that thread:

I'm in the minority here, leaning towards a greater tolerance for "impolite behaviors". I say "impolite" in quotes here because I personally do not view jumping as an impolite, inappropriate behavior, just as hopping around on furniture is a perfectly acceptable behavior in a dog for me. Obviously, I understand that MOST people do not share this opinion, so if they want to greet him, I'll tell them "he's exuberant and jumps on people", and if they still want to pet him, by all means go ahead. If they don't want to, I don't have a problem with that. Trent doesn't go around jumping on strangers every time he sees one, he'll jump up on people I allow him to greet, and if he decides he likes them (he's still got that puppy exuberance, but some of that selective aloofness is coming on).

My dog should not be required to act a certain way so everyone and anyone may run up to him excitedly and pet him. He isn't public property, but when he IS in public, he is not a nuisance either. He minds his own business and behaves appropriately. But if you want to come up and pet my dog, don't expect my dog to act according to YOUR standards.

With kids and the elderly, however, he inherently understands the need to be careful around them. He is very, very gentle with them. He may wag his tail like crazy, but he will never once jump or paw at them. He does give kisses, and I will warn kids petting him that he likes to lick and can be slobbery, but haven't met a kid yet who doesn't like puppy kisses.
In other words, if you were walking by, you will NOT be accosted by my dog and get slime and slobber all over you. My dog is expected to be heeling at my side ignoring other people (and dogs, but he generally sucks at that) walking by. At pet stores he is to be at a loose heel by my side, no sniffing or trying to meet others, and when I am standing still, he must be at a sit or down, stay. However, IF you approach us and ask to pet my dog, I will warn you that he jumps. If that is not okay, we continue on our way. If it IS, and he decides he likes you, he will usually jump up on you.

Honestly, it's not about promoting drive or whatnot in a dog for me. I simply do not see the necessity of training him not to jump when he won't be making a nuisance of himself in public. He can be and is a well behaved dog in public in all sorts of crowds. But if you approach my dog without warning or asking and he jumps on you, frankly, it's not my problem.

And Laurelin I do not mean "you" - using a general "you" here!!! I don't think you go around approaching strange dogs and then cry foul when the dog jumps on you.
 

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I remember him jumping up on me when I came in the door when he was real young, but on strangers? I can't really remember him being so inclined. From about 4 months on he just kinda ignored strangers.

If he did jump up on people I would teach him otherwise, I don't like it when dogs jump on people.
 

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Yeah, Trent hasn't grasped the concept of "GSD aloofness" yet... I worry about him ;)
 

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I don't let my dogs jump on strangers. Aesop will occasionally sneak a jump up when we walk in, but if we can get an "off" command in before, he won't. I find jumping obnoxious.

Also, working at a vet office, I can attest to how annoying it is to be jumped on. I have to smile and act like it is adorable, but I find going home scratched or bruised really irksome.
 

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It took FOREVER to get the dogs to STAY AWAY from the door when it rang.
its an easy habit for them to pick up but now they stay in the kitchen unless we call them over to come say hello and frankly, I love it.

Guests don't feel bombarded by dogs and its much calmer lol
 

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