Does your dog ever growl at you?

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I'm only talking about "really serious" growls here, not play growls or little warnings that the dogs give each other.

Kimma, yes. Only once when she had a RMB - I came up behind her and I think she thought I was another dog. I didn't press the issue, just grabbed something else to trade up with her, and she was and has been fine. With Justin, she has growled before but only a couple of times when he's tried to move her when she was sleeping. But really, he tries to MOVE her while she's sleeping, versus waking her up and asking her to move from wherever she is. Since he started waking her first, it's been fine.

Pentti, yes, when he first came and was a bad RGer. He growled quite a few times. No issues with that now. He growled once at my MIL shortly after he met her because she full on hugged him. And unfortunately, he's done that "I want to probably rip your face off" growl to Jari :(

Bubbles, no, never.

Jari only when he got sick of Pentti's growling at him :(
 

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Tucker is grumpy when he's sleepy. So he growls if you touch him too much while he's resting. Like one time my mom decided to lay her head on him while he was asleep (to cuddle), he said no with a growl. Mom didn't stop for some reason (something about not rewarding growling I'm sure) and he didn't do anything, just the one growl. He goes to sleep with my parents in their bed and sleeps by their feet. If they move and touch him he growls. After a few times he gets up and goes to his own bed. Petting him while he's asleep has never caused a growl but he looks obviously miserable and will show calming/appeasement signals (often lifting his back leg to expose inguinal area, the only other time he's done that is when being overwhelmed by meeting multiple dogs). My brother does this fairly often, he's unaware Tucker dislikes it. I get a little worried about it because my mother insists on hugging him so much, including when he's sleepy and just her face being RIGHT THERE worries me. But he also adores my mother so I'm not sure he'll ever really escalate beyond a growl. Most of the time he doesn't even do that, I think it takes some trigger stacking. Actually I can only think of twice that he's done it out of the many times she's hugged him while he's resting, but I'm not home most of the time so who knows. I don't worry about the growling when they bump him in bed at all, he's just being a grump and complaining, he knows he can move, that's why he does. I don't think he'd escalate.

The other thing that makes him growl at us is if we try to physically move him off of the couch or bed. That I find more problematic because it's obviously resource guarding and he occasionally escalates to a snap. My parents don't train dogs, so right now we just manage it by not physically moving him off of the couch. If we want to sit there we just pretend we're going to sit on him and he moves out of the way. Apparently he doesn't think he can communicate with butts, so it works out. I'm pretty sure my dad physically moves him out of his spot in bed every night though while the dog snarls something awful and he's never escalated in three years. It's something I'd like to work on though. But dad won't do any training so I don't know how much I can do. He has let me move him before (slide him over while he's lying down) without saying anything. He has a very weak bond with my dad so tolerates him less.


He used to growl when he had stolen objects and you tried to take them. That was an easy fix. He regresses a little when I'm not home because I'm sure my parents take things from him while yelling at him, so he'll freeze up a bit, but he soon remembers he has nothing to worry about with me. It's funny how a dog can be freezing and giving you whale eye because he's possessive of something you want to take from him and you simply step back and ask him for it and all of a sudden he's bright and happy and brings it right over for you.


But in any case, I don't consider growling that big of a deal anymore. It's simply a dog complaining or asking you to leave him alone/stop. I don't really consider it a threat unless it's coupled with some other more serious signals (hard eyes and freezing). Snapping is much more concerning to me. A dog can growl about something his whole life and never escalate. Just like most people who don't get their way don't go punching anyone. Not that it can't escalate, of course it can. Some of that is knowing your dog, some of that is knowing how to respond. Obviously if you push back or prolong the thing he dislikes you may see escalation. If it's something you are going to have to do then work on changing how your dog feels about it to eliminate that risk. But I don't think it's the sort of behavior where people need to freak out and start worrying about getting rid of the dog or putting him down like some people make it out to be. People get super offended by it, all he did was complain. I guess it depends on the dog though, I'm sure some might escalate from growl to bite much quicker.


I think teaching him to get up and move when he's annoyed is a good thing, a very useful way of teaching him to handle his emotions, but be careful of how you do it just so you don't put yourself in harm's way if you think he may escalate.
This pretty much sums up my dads JRT mix Lilly. She's 6 years old and has gotten testier as she's gotten older, but she has always been a growler. It's never escalated to a bite except for one time when I was separating her from a fight with Jackson. My dad and stepmom are not good trainers, or care to anyway, so it's something I've never tried to help. It's obviously an 'issue' but in some ways, it's not. We know when to leave her alone but we also highly doubt she'll actually bite.
 
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Mammoth has never growled at me but has bitten twice. Once when he got caught in between the front and back seats of the pickup and once when I got between him and a dog he was spooked over.
 

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Charlotte, never. Ma'ii has only once, and that was when he broke a claw and was in extreme pain. He gets really touchy when in pain, understandably, and we were sharing a blanket on the couch. I got up to move and he started growling when I shifted the blanket under him, lol. I didn't blame the poor boy.

EDIT: Actually, there was one other time I can remember with Ma'ii. A fight broke out with him and Charlotte, and I stepped in, and he redirected onto me. I grabbed him and threw him in the bathroom and shut the door, so he could chill out. An hour later, I let him out again and it was like nothing happened.
 

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Bandit used to resource guard when he was younger so yes he has growled at me plenty. Not in the last six years though.
 

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Aside from play growling and "say grrr", Roxie did once. I was clipping her nails, moved to the back feet. Lightly touched one foot and she growled quietly. I was confused as heck, and asked her to give me the paw (I will back off if she wants me to, but she is trained to give paw). Looked at the paw, and there was a yeast infection.

My sister also got growled at once, for accidentally kicking the very same paw. I took a look and Roxie had another infection. Luckily, we've got meds and there's been no repeats.

Roxie is just one of those dogs who is kosher with everything and anything, so I'm honestly really glad she let me know about the infection. I check her feet every so often now, but I would have never known otherwise. I was super, super shocked when it happened though!
 

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Dance has. Not often, but she has definitely has. She was a terrible resource guarder as a puppy, but thankfully is pretty good now because she knows she won't get away with stuff and I do trade for something else when I can (most of the time). She has also growled at me when I have tapped her to move out of the way, but that's more of a complaining "fine, if I must" kind of a growl. A dog who growls at their people is not my thing and I hate when she pulls attitude, but it isn't often at all at least and is never serious. It really doesn't surprise me when it does happen though. She can be pretty bitchy and full of attitude when it comes to most things in life, especially as she gets older. And she is also a very reactionary, 'act now, think later' dog. So the times she has growled at me she realizes two seconds later that she shouldn't.

Ripley has never growled at me or my family, but he did growl at a house guest when she tied to hug him. And he was taking a low dose steroid at the time. Either way, the person shouldn't have done what she did to a dog she barely knows and I can't really blame him for it in retrospect, though I was very surprised at the time. Now we have a 'nobody invades Ripley's space or hugs him' rule except for the immediate family he lives with. I haven't seen behavior like that from him prior or after, and he is usually a very tolerant dog, but that day there were two things combined going against him.

Keira has never growled at anyone in the family or really anyone else ever. Just at noises outside. Or at the other dogs if they are being rude or annoying.

Journey would surprise even ereeself if she growled at a person haha. I would know something was seriously wrong with er if she ever growled at me or anyone else. She is such a happy, friendly, tolerant and easy going girl. I got my first real play growl out of her playing tug the other day and was super happy about it actually. She was so much more into it than usual!
 

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Zander is an extremely grumbly, vocal dog. He simply cannot function, apparently, without giving his grumpy old man opinion on EVERYTHING.

But he isn't growly. He's growled at me very few times in the last 8 or 9 years. Most often due to not wanting to be moved or manhandled. But. He gets over it. He complains, but he never threatens serious harm. And I don't take it seriously, because those situations are few and far between.

Unless he is stampeding down the stairs.
Then it's a daily occurrence that we are working on.

THE STAIRS ARE NOT A NASCAR TRACK. AND YOU WILL NOT WIN BY YELLING AND SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER AT ME. If you weren't trying to run me down in cold blood, I wouldn't have to grab your ass!!

So, yeah. We're working on it. Because I find neither behavior necessary and highly inappropriate.
 

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Zander is an extremely grumbly, vocal dog. He simply cannot function, apparently, without giving his grumpy old man opinion on EVERYTHING.

But he isn't growly. He's growled at me very few times in the last 8 or 9 years. Most often due to not wanting to be moved or manhandled. But. He gets over it. He complains, but he never threatens serious harm. And I don't take it seriously, because those situations are few and far between. And usually with plenty of stress involved.

Unless he is stampeding down the stairs.
Then it's a daily occurrence that we are working on.

THE STAIRS ARE NOT A NASCAR TRACK. AND YOU WILL NOT WIN BY YELLING AND SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER AT ME. If you weren't trying to run me down in cold blood, I wouldn't have to manhandle you!!

So, yeah. We're working on it. Because I find neither behavior necessary and highly inappropriate.
 

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Peewee did as he got older and it was harder for him to lay in one spot for long periods for brushing. But other than that he he didn't.
Ivan has a few times. He tends to get growly when he gets over stimulated. Its a really odd growl though, kind of a whiney growl.
Phoebe I'm not sure she even knows how yet. LOL
 

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Oh god, Pip growls about every little thing he doesn't like anyway, but he is a resource guarder
^This is Webster. And he has bitten me though never broken skin -- when I first brought him home I didn't immediately realize he guarded places as well as edibles and went to scoot him over on the sofa and he nailed my hand. That was years ago and we worked through it so he will willingly trade and move now, but if he's really snuggled in and warm he will still mutter when cued to move.

Kim and Mira, no. Mira may have while tugging some time but it's clearly a play growl and she looks so happy it's hilarious. Kim is one of those dogs that would just never growl at a human under any circumstances ever.
 

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Jubel is a very vocal dog. LOTS of play growling with people and dogs.

"Quit bothering me please" growls are somewhat common. Just his way of saying stop it please and really aren't likely to escalate to anything if you don't keep pushing. Usually the result of actually messing with him, sometimes for a needed task but usually one of us goofing around and he's not in the mood. You press him and he might air snap at you then immediately offer kisses saying "sorry I had to do that but you wouldn't stop." Most often associated with having to pick him up, he is NOT a fan.

Physically moving him on the couch or bed you'll very likely get a growl, ask him to move and he'll get up and move with out any fuss. I really don't view it as a problem at all. Use your words rather than pushing him around and he's fine, he doesn't care one bit about being bumped, nudged, kicked, rolled on, or woken up, etc so it really isn't an concern.
 

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Hunter grumbles about everything. Yes he does growl at me regularly. It's not something I'm concerned about. His method to letting me know there is a toy under the couch and he'd like it thankyouverymuch is to sit and stare at me while growling. It actually makes me laugh. He is great about being moved around on the furniture. I've never had him complain about that. If he did he'd lose furniture privileges faster than you could say knock it off. He can be a bit resource guardy if he has something really really good. I've seen it about 3 times in the year and half I've had him. We did do some trading games but I don't mess with him when he eats. In fact I feed him breakfast after I leave every day so there's no one there to bother him. He also growls when he plays. If I hurt him while brushing he will growl and bite my hand. It's more of an "Ow! You hurt me, rather then a warning knock it off bite". He never backs that bite up with any pressure.
 

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Only in play. He'll growl when he's really worked up during tug or if he's play -attacking and wrestling with us. Sometimes the growl means he's getting overstimulated and needs a timeout from play or he'll start biting at clothes and getting too rough.

Otherwise he's never growled. He's generally very easy going about being manhandled or letting people and dogs take his stuff and wouldn't think about doing anything about it. If he really wants to let you know he doesn't like something (generally grooming related) he'll mouth your hand lightly to let you know. He's not a vocal dog in general so I don't think growling would occur to him.
 

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No, but I've seen her growl at other people and other dogs.

She only ever yelps at me (if I accidentally hurt her). I'm actually very proud of her for being so good with the family throughout this medical affair - she's growled at the vet techs/assistants, but so far as I know, has not growled at anyone in my family, even when they have to get her into the vet.

I would like to think that I would be understanding if she growled at me within reason (or that I would at least be logical about it and rationalize why it occurred), but I know that I would probably feel emotionally hurt.
 

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Oh yes...and not in play either.

Ocean doesn't like physical touch much. If you push it with him with too much handling, he stiffens, growls and walks away. We are working with that and making some progress with feeding him food rewards when he has to be brushed, toweled off, eye boogers cleaned up, etc. He's much better about eye boogers and petting. Brushing and toweling, he's still growly, but he's tolerating it better.

The few times with Ocean where he has growled at me outside of "don't touch me"...I can shut it down with a strong verbal correction and telling him to "down" which he does. Then it's over.

Lars and I have true "fights" over stuff where he has growled at me. It happens about once a year where he growls at me and I can count how many times he's done it (7 times in six years)...and it's after something where he doesn't believe he is in the wrong. I've handled it differently every time. Just Monday night, I grabbed his collar after he peed on an agility jump at class at the barn while I was setting a jump bar he knocked. I got growled at...and he got dumped in his x-pen and Ocean ran instead. That was a mild disagreement...instead of a true fight. The true fights he and I have usually revolve around agility.

The three more volatile times he's challenged me was once when he refused to go into a down for a dropped bar in a different agility class. I told him to down...he did, but then he stood up. I told him to down again and he growled at me. He and I got into a pissing match about me sternly telling him down and him staring me down and snarling at me. I knew he would have bitten me if I reached for his collar. I told him to get into an x-pen which he did and I started to close the x-pen in around him and I kept forcefully telling him down and he was still growling at me. I closed in the x-pen until he had no room to move...I couldn't control him physically...but I could control his space. He finally knew I had won...and he shot me this death glare and he went into a down. That whole thing went on for about 5 minutes and the rest of the class was ashen after watching that battle.

Another bad fight we had was he marked an agility trial secretary in her chair. I grabbed his collar as a correction for peeing on a person. He growled at me and down to the floor he went. It was absolutely a reflex move on my behalf. He and I had a quiet battle there on the floor as we were getting ready to go and run an agility course. He stopped growling, I let him up, we went and ran the course.

The third one was he broke his start line, took an obstacle after I shut down our run and was leaving the ring with him. I took his collar and then he slammed on the brakes donkey style as we hit the ring gates. I had to drag him from the ring backwards through the crowd...he's snarling at me the entire way back to his crate. I am seething at this point and through gritted teeth telling him "Don't you dare!" Once back at his crate...he stayed there the rest of the trial and I scratched everything for the rest of the weekend. That had been the last straw and Lars didn't run agility at all for about 6 months. He watched Ocean from the sidelines here at the house...and he got the message I actually control agility and not him loud and clear. We haven't really fought during agility since that last blow out last year.

And everyone wonders why I say Rottweilers aren't the breed for everyone and that a confident rottweiler will challenge you. LOL Their owners have to be as determined as they are...or so the guys on Westminster said this year on TV. :p
 

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My old Cocker never growled at me. She would growl if the cat came too close to her food dish, and I think the ex but I can't recall one time she ever growled at me. I could touch her anywhere, wake her out of a deep sleep, touch her while she was eating, move the bowl etc and not a peep.

The toy poodle I had growing up growled something fierce when we went to put him on his crate. He would attack the crate and try to get us. I was also clipping his nails or doing something with his foot, I honestly don't remember what. But he growled and in an instant bit me in the face without any time for me to back away. Irrational, but I'm still afraid of poodles because of him!
 

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