Do you think this dog is skinny?

[SizzleDog]

YES, dobes are great for agility!

I've had many people comment on Ronin's body type, and how it's well nigh perfect for Agility. I've had people try to buy him from me for that purpose,as well as offer to train him (which they all backed out when they found out I lived so far away from *every* agility trainer out there!)

Ilsa is too large to be a competitive agility dog. She's my RP granddaughter, she's large and in charge. She's the boss of my pair, but she's the more cantankerous one - she'll only do things correctly if there's a large incentive for HER. She's more reserved and haughty, and more independent. However, she knows most of the equipment and will run a simple course if there are reeeealllly stinky treats waiting for her at the end! (Crazy girl has taken a liking to the weaves and loves to jump).

Ronin is the powerhouse. He's only 26.75" tall, very compact and muscular... ideal for Agility. Small, agile, and ridiculously fast (can we say 38 mph???) He's the one that's more willing to please, but he hasn't yet developed the *focus* needed of an Agility dog. He's only 2, so he's still a work in progress. Out of the two, he's the one that I'd be afraid of in a dark alley, despite his youth and his size. He's a very sharp dog (which has its advantages AND disadvantages) and cannot be handled by non-dog savvy people.

 

[Muggie'sMum]

Yeeeehaw! *ticks off another pro for another doberman* Though I strongly suspect that once my old girl is gone, we won't have anything much taller than 18" in our house anymore

 

[SeniorPetLover]

Well, if either one of them showed up at my house, the first thing I would do is feed them...

 

[krystallovespitbulls]

Thank you everyone for posting!
Keep up the posting.
I want to here from everyone!

 

[pitbulliest]

The first dog on the thread does look too skinny, but I don't believe its underfed...to be honest, working APBTs are actually supposed to have quite a deep hour glass figure if you will...I don't personally like the whole rib deal, but if you look at the muscles, that dog is extremely fit...he's been working that dog out to say the least...Colby would probably appreciate the look of that dog, but confirmation standards wouldn't...

I think that's the difference between SHOW pits and WORKING pits...although, I don't like the look of that dog...and I've seen working pits that look a little more beefed up than that without the excess ribbage...*shrug* as long as the dogs are healthy and eating properly, its just personal preference.

That's a nice looking dog

 

[pitbulliest]

Here's my girl...she's not fat..she's fit...you can see (especially when she's active, running, walking, etc) and definately feel her ribs...she's also short and stalky and very deep chested as you can see in picture 2 and the last picture when compared to me, a 5'7'' person. (that pic was taken at her obedience class graduation..yay she graduated top of the class!) ALL COMMENTS WELCOME..lol I will NOT be offended!

Oh, and the long hangy skin in the first picture, those are her teets..she was bred at an extremely young age and they never shrunk back to size so she's got this flappy skin.. stupid BYBs..they mess up a perfectly beautiful dog for their greedy needs...*sigh*

 

[pitbulliest]

And here's a really shi**y edit of what she would look like without the flappy teet skin:

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

I really don't like the looks of either of those dogs. Just too skinny in my opinion.

And no, I don't have fat pets. And no, I'm not fat either.

 

[oc_spirit]

Oh ya I wanted to mention about the chains, they dont do it to beef up neck muscles, they do it because that is the only thickness these dogs wont snap! Ronan''s chain is thick enough and these guys pack more power pound for pound than him!

 

[pitbulliest]

Yeah but alot of times they do add extra weight to the chains to beef them up....
I think its stupid personally lol the extra weight thing

 

[oc_spirit]

If they wanted to beef up thier necks they would just use weighted collars I agree that the gigantic oversized chains is a little much but these ones really aren''t that bad.

 

[DanL]

Honest question here- what is a "working" pit? Wasn't the breed originally for fighting or bull baiting or whatever they called it? What other jobs does a pit do? I'm not trying to lead anyone on here, I'm honestly curious.

 

[Brattina88]

weight pulling is a major one that I hear about all of the time
Not sure about others

 

[RockstarKennelz]

With the level of ignorance displayed in this thread, it's no wonder that hundreds of pitbulls are being seized from their owners and destroyed so regularly. First off, the dog in the second pic was bred by myself, and comes from a solid genetic background. Her owners are close personal friends of mine, and they possess an incredible passion for their dogs and the breed in general. The pictured dog, Lil Bit, is in fact a house dog and spends very little time on a chain whatsoever. She most certainly isn't "pumped full" of steroids, nor anything else of that nature. Her exercise consists of leash-walking and playing in the house and yard. Her owners recently took "Best In Show" and "Best Opposite" for dogs they showed in the last ADBA event here in Atlanta, in addition to the countless other ribbons they won that weekend. Upon seeing a picture of Lil Bit, the judge was very forthcoming with praise for her. Once again, she is a HOUSE DOG who has never been involved with any conditioning program, nor given supplements or such, other than quality food. She looks that way completely naturally, having a strong genetic background. Here is a picture of her grand dam, the best canine athlete I've ever had the pleasure of owning

The dog in the first picture is the world-famous Grand Champion Machobuck. He is pictured in PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION. It took expert conditioners and thousands of dollars to get him in such top physical shape. An athletic canine is no different than a human boxer, or runner, or body-builder, or what have you. They have to be physically able to compete and excel in whatever sport they partake in, be it weightpull, dock-jumping, agility, shutzhund, hog-hunting, or any of the numerous competitions in which these dogs are so proficient. Tell Mike Tyson he's too skinny. The American Pit Bull Terrier was never meant to be a fat lazy couch potato. They are true sporting dogs.

 

[Gamedogs]

I don't think I should reply to everything that has been said... I'll just show more pictures of the second dog, I have more pictures of the first dog, but there's really no reason to post them...

Lil bit:

Don't bother with the continued posts about her being too skinny, juiced, on a chain, or anything else if you're expecting a reply, because you will get none. If you believe she is unhealthy, take every one of those pictures to your vet and see what they have to say... if they tell you that they agree with you, you need to find another vet, period.

 

[molena]

I think it's really offensive that someone would pilfer pictures from another site for the people on this thread to pick apart. If you all are so concerned with the poor dogs, maybe you should think about whether you'd post a pic of someone's child and then criticize their bodies as fat, thin, drugged or what have you. These are real dogs owned by real people who care! Not abstract examples of canine body types. I am sure that those of you who post and say "oh, poor babies" feel all holier-than-thou about yourselves, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about when it comes to these particular individual dogs, or their owners, or their lives. I also know the people who own these dogs, and I find your comments incredibly insensitive and ignorant.

But since you are talking about canine body types in general, I am an officer in the ADBA club, and I can tell you that these dogs look to be extremely healthy and fit, and are excellent examples of conformation of the APBT. It is true that UKC has different conformation standards, and show champions in the UKC look very different from ADBA. The AADR is also a well-respected APBT registry with standards similar to the ADBA. Maybe this isn't your preference for how a dog should look... so then don't have one. But it is ONLY a matter of preference and NOT a matter of health.

Also, to the person who says 99% of dogs are pets, I'd say you were a middle-class city dweller with tunnel vision. The current pet craze, with doggy daycare and bakeries, is a modern invention and not shared by much of the rest of the world. MANY people out there are living with working animals. Not to mention the fact that the whole idea of a dog breed is that there is a standard which was based on a particular function. You may disagree with the notion of breeds altogether, but they are very much still based on the original purpose of the dog, and that's where the "should" comes from.

 

[Gamedogs]

Her owners recently took "Best In Show" and "Best Opposite" for dogs they showed in the last ADBA event here in Atlanta, in addition to the countless other ribbons they won that weekend.

Yeah, here are two other dogs for you all to talk about if you wish.

Finale:

A.K.A:

 

[Renee750il]

We will just wait and see if you three have any sincere interest in educating people about your dogs . . .