Do you know what dog breed is the samartest?

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oriondw said:
I feel sorry for people who make assumptions. :rolleyes:
I never made assumptions but the avatar you used to have with the apparent rebels getting bombed, was a little nationalistic to me. I'm glad you got rid of it.
 

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Neko, if they're both yours, how do you come to the conclussion that it's the owner that makes the dog smarter?

I think the ability to problem solve is more important when determining intelligence but for training, high drive is by far the most important thing.

My pit bull has enormous drive and training him is easy for the most part (I'd have never believed this to the point that I didn't bother trying for the first 11 months) but if I throw even a slight variance in he's as confused as a caveman on a computer.
 

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DanL said:
I never made assumptions but the avatar you used to have with the apparent rebels getting bombed, was a little nationalistic to me. I'm glad you got rid of it.
:D I think the new one suits me better
 

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TroyF said:
Neko, if they're both yours, how do you come to the conclussion that it's the owner that makes the dog smarter?

I think the ability to problem solve is more important when determining intelligence but for training, high drive is by far the most important thing.

My pit bull has enormous drive and training him is easy for the most part (I'd have never believed this to the point that I didn't bother trying for the first 11 months) but if I throw even a slight variance in he's as confused as a caveman on a computer.
If I remember correctly Neko's dog is the lab/chow and her stepfather actually owns the shepherd, although they all live in the same house. So the shepherd is not really hers. And she (I hope your a she) is a better dog owner than her stepfather.
I think I got that right. Sorry if I am not remembering the right member.:D
 

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I think my dogs are smart though I don't have many other breed of dog to compare them with. But I have to say that their intelligence fared in comparison to the first dog I ever owned. He was a mix poodle with some kind of terrier. The things he'd figure out on his own were sometimes eerie.
 

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Border collie. They can have up to a 200 word vocabulary. And they also have a strong reasoning ability. Say a BC knows 50 objects by name, and you put 51 objects in a room, the 51st object being one that they don't know the name of. If you ask for the 51st, they will get it by process of elimination, even though they were never taught the name of that object. That's pretty smart if you ask me.
Oh yeah? I can do that. ;) Seriously, though, that's pretty impressive.

Frankly, I think intelligence in pet dogs is over-rated. Trainability is nice. But intelligence, while sometimes amusing, can lead to distructive behavior.
 

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I saw a show with a BC that did that- with 200+ objects, he could pick out the one they asked him to, and also he had enough "reasoning" to go into a room with a bunch of familiar objects, and if they said bring the schnickelgruber :) he would bring the new object he never saw before.

I'm working on this with Gunnar now- teaching him object recognition with different balls and toys. He's learning to bring each object to me by name, like "green ball" "orange ball" "kong" etc. It's pretty cool and a great trick to show your friends.
I saw that! That was pretty awesome...
 

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oriondw said:
I feel sorry for people who make assumptions. :rolleyes:

I don't need your sympanthy, nor need it... you are the one who posted your "signature," not me. Although, I would love to hear about it, and I am always ready to be educated...(no, I am not being rude...just wondering). I don't believe that "fear" is the course of action to take... that's all. Take care, Amy
 

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I don't need your sympanthy, nor need it... you are the one who posted your "signature," not me. Although, I would love to hear about it, and I am always ready to be educated...(no, I am not being rude...just wondering). I don't believe that "fear" is the course of action to take... that's all. Take care, Amy
My signature has nothing to do with dogs, period.
 

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I was just curious what it was about....
I am not saying you are "wrong," but your sig. said enough.
Regarless in the human or animal world, I don't think (which is your right to disagree) that "fear is the most powerful motivating force..."

I was just wondering you meant by that. No worries... you can say or write what ever you wish. But, from your sig., I don't believe fear is the most positive way....I believe in truth and respect, than if that does not work, and there is terrorism....then blow the f'ers up. I just didn't get your meaning. I am not the "bunny hugger" you may think I am, but, again, I just didn't get your sig. (by the way, my family and my dad comes from a Special Forces family)
Amy
 

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Border collie. They can have up to a 200 word vocabulary. And they also have a strong reasoning ability. Say a BC knows 50 objects by name, and you put 51 objects in a room, the 51st object being one that they don't know the name of. If you ask for the 51st, they will get it by process of elimination, even though they were never taught the name of that object. That's pretty smart if you ask me.
Your dog doesn't need to be a Border Collie to do this. It just happened to be the case that Rico (the dog in that video people are referring to) was one.
http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2004/0610rico.shtml

I went to a 3-day training seminar last year that was entirely focused on object discrimination (both lectures and practical work with dogs) and it was absolutely awesome.

Every dog can learn this, you just need to find what motivates them to work with you. :)
 

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I don't believe in one dog being smarter than another and same with people. I think everyone and every dog has something to offer. Brainy people can lack social skills... and it takes some kind of smarts to work a room (or people) like some "brain dead" party people can. Addicts may not be the smartest people in the world to have gotten into whatever situation but they sure are smart at finding ways of getting what they need. It all depends on how you look at it.

Anyway, my answer is mutts :D
 

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Ok first off I didn't post this thread to make it a bashing fest and that is one reason why I didn't reply that soon it is so ridiculous that people feel the need to bash others on this thread, it is not about our countries or if we are racist or not who cares ??????? not me I posted this thread thinking it would be a FUN interesting post

as for the smartest dog it has been found that scientifically the Poodle is the smartest breed of dog :)
 

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as for the smartest dog it has been found that scientifically the Poodle is the smartest breed of dog :)

I dont agree.

Scientifically lol.....
 

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Well that is what has been found sorry if you don't agree :)

Has been found under your bed?

... At least post a link to your "scientific" study so I can disprove it...
 
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Wildwings811,
Thanks for posting this thread. It could have been light and fun; some people take things way to seriously!! Did think it was kind of amusing that my dogs were #27 on the posted list! They can be a bit thick at times!!
I belong to a fun, active forum that doesn't get too catty too often. PM me, and I'll give you the address!
 

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