Cooked chicken for dogs

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I am trying to make my dog eat raw chicken but he doesnt want to eat it so instead, i boil or fry it for several minutes and add it to his meal. My concern is can i give the bones as well? I only give chicken necks because it has soft bones in it. He loves bones. My last pet has survived 16 years before he died and he eats chicken bones too. But now, i became more cautious with my dog's food because recently, he started vomiting white substance but no worms in it. He has this attitude too of vomiting nothing. This usually occurs after playing or when he gets excited and jump. I dont know also if the vomiting is because of the acana lamb and apple that i give together with his meal.
 

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No, you should not give cooked chicken bones. They are too brittle for dogs and shards can puncture the dog's stomach/intestines. Raw chicken bones are ok, they are softer and dogs can handle them much better.

Why are you giving chicken if you're trying to get your dog to eat kibble? I know you've gone almost two weeks now with your dog not eating well, if he doesn't start eating kibble he will become malnourished. Dogs can't live on chicken alone, they have to have a balanced diet with fiber sources, calcium sources, and other vitamins they need from their food.
 

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Several minutes of cooking. The situation is this. Before, i am giving him 1cup of rice, chicken, veggies, boiled egg and broth in the morning and evening. Then 2 cups of eagle pack in the middle of the day or lunch then treats in the afternoon. After that, he's appetite got tired up of the foods that im giving him and he managed not to eat for 6days until yesterday. He found again his appetite when i fed him acana lamb and apple. So i decided to switch to feeding him raw chicken and egg but he doesnt want to eat it so i decided to cook the chicken or beef so his everyday meal now starting yesterday was 2cups of rice, chicken, potatoes, and boiled egg, banana in the morning and evening and 2 cups of acana lamb and apple at lunch. But now, he constantly vomits because he really likes to jumps after eating. I dunno now if its because of the food that im giving him that's why he vomits or because of playing after meal or because of bones. I inspected his vomit and its always white substance with bits of pice.
 

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You can slowly boil chicken to entice your dog to eat it, since it makes the bones very soft. If you let it boil long enough, you can actually squish the bones between your fingers, although you probably only need to boil it long enough to cook the outside surface. Although if your not going to feed a raw diet, you might as well just feed boneless cooked meat.
 

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Don't cook it at all, especially bones! You may have to use some tough love. By that I mean put a chicken back or quarter down, and leave it for fifteen minutes. If its not eaten take it up and don't offer again until the next meal. It may even be a couple of days, but don't stop using the tough love. Your dog, assuming healthy will eat. You are not starving the dog. You are offering the food he is choosing not to eat. But don't cook it, because it makes the bone very dangerous, and takes away the nutrition.

You may also want to look at the getting started guide at preymodelraw.com. Tons of great info there.
 

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Whether raw or kibble, constantly changing the food in an effort to get the dog to eat tends to only make the dog finicky. He won't eat what's presented to him because he knows that something different will come his way later.

My Xena sometimes will "hunger strike". I've learned to just keep presenting the same food to her. She eventually eats it. The old "they'll eat when they are hungry" adage works here.

Of course, this assumes, as naturalfeddogs noted, that the dog is healthy.

Good luck!
 

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Whether raw or kibble, constantly changing the food in an effort to get the dog to eat tends to only make the dog finicky. He won't eat what's presented to him because he knows that something different will come his way later.

My Xena sometimes will "hunger strike". I've learned to just keep presenting the same food to her. She eventually eats it. The old "they'll eat when they are hungry" adage works here.

Of course, this assumes, as naturalfeddogs noted, that the dog is healthy.

Good luck!
With raw, variety is key so there is something different at each meal. But in the beginning, you just have to keep giving/removing the same thing at each meal to get them started, and to learn how to eat raw. As they get used to raw, the protein changes constantly.
 

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Fair enough. Clearly, I don't feed raw, or I'd have known that :)
 

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Right. I will feed now boneless chicken. Im the type of dog owner who is always very happy seeing my dog finish his bowl of food. I cant help it seeing my dog wont touch his meal even once coz im afraid that he might lose a single pound.
 

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How big is your dog? Feeding him 2 cups of dog food for lunch PLUS 2 cups of rice and chicken in the morning and evening is a LOT of food. Also, all those additional things you're giving (i.e. banana, potatoes, etc) he doesn't need. Decide whether you are going to feed raw, kibble, or homecooked meals and stick to it. But whatever you decide to feed, it must be a balanced meal for him. I understand not liking to see your dog not eat, but he's got to learn to be less finicky. Put down his food for 15-20 minutes, then if he doesn't eat, pick it up until the next meal time.

Also, how old is he? He probably only needs to eat twice a day, and if you're feeding him 2 cups 3 times a day, likely that is way too much.
 

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Right. I will feed now boneless chicken. Im the type of dog owner who is always very happy seeing my dog finish his bowl of food. I cant help it seeing my dog wont touch his meal even once coz im afraid that he might lose a single pound.
You want the bone with it. In the beginning, always bone heavy chicken. Once they have adapted to raw and are adjusted to several different proteins you can start giving boneless.
 

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I had a dog that didn't immediately take to fully raw chicken. I boiled it for about two minutes in water and she ate it that way, then I slowly started boiling it less and less and eventually she enjoyed it raw. If you're feeding the dog chicken that is raw AND cold, try getting it up to room temperature first. My cat hates eating meat that's cold, and it's better for it to be warmer anyhow. It's what they expect.

Try some different meats. Kitty has come to hate chicken, so we don't buy it for him anymore. He prefers beef and pork, sometimes turkey as well. He's also a huge fan of organ meat. Hearts, livers, etc. Gizzards are also a big hit even when he is anti-chicken at the moment.
I don't see a need to feed so much throughout the day, though. I have done, and still will do, kibble for one meal and meat for another. I usually do meat for dinner, since my cat sleeps in my bedroom and will yowl if he's hungry at night. Feeding him meat for dinner keeps him fuller for much longer, and he tends to not eat so much in the morning. This is my experience with dogs as well.
 

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I had a dog that didn't immediately take to fully raw chicken. I boiled it for about two minutes in water and she ate it that way, then I slowly started boiling it less and less and eventually she enjoyed it raw. If you're feeding the dog chicken that is raw AND cold, try getting it up to room temperature first. My cat hates eating meat that's cold, and it's better for it to be warmer anyhow. It's what they expect.

Try some different meats. Kitty has come to hate chicken, so we don't buy it for him anymore. He prefers beef and pork, sometimes turkey as well. He's also a huge fan of organ meat. Hearts, livers, etc. Gizzards are also a big hit even when he is anti-chicken at the moment.
I don't see a need to feed so much throughout the day, though. I have done, and still will do, kibble for one meal and meat for another. I usually do meat for dinner, since my cat sleeps in my bedroom and will yowl if he's hungry at night. Feeding him meat for dinner keeps him fuller for much longer, and he tends to not eat so much in the morning. This is my experience with dogs as well.
The only different protein I would ever consider, if I had to just starting out would be turkey necks. But, chicken is the easiest to digest, and the bone is the easiest to handle in beginning. Giving it warm in the beginning is a good idea, and may work.

Red meats, heart and organs are VERY rich and can cause digestive upset when given to seasoned raw eaters in large amounts much less a beginner. I would wait a good while on those. I would go with chicken, turkey and fish first, then intro pork and other red meats followed by organs last.
 

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Sorry, meant to specify that as eventually.

We started with chicken as well. But I've started other dogs with something different without any issues. I figured out the best meat, whatever tantalized the most, by feeding it as a treat first. I know most people probably have chicken more readily available though.
 

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A 25lb dog DOES NOT need 6 cups of food a day!! My 45lb dog hardly eats 2.5 cups a day.
Ease up on the food big time and as others stated, pick raw, cooked or kibble and stick to it.
 

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he doesnt want to eat his dry dog food unless i hand feed him..


That is because you've been giving him all sorts of stuff!

Pick one. I would stick with kibble, until you've done extensive research on proper raw feeding.

Feed that kibble. And ONLY that kibble.

No treats. No extras. No NOTHING.

Your dog will NOT starve himself to health, I promise. Right now, he knows he can be finicky because you'll just offer something else if he doesn't eat the first thing.
 

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