Concerns about my Beagle

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Ok, not sure if this is the right forum, but it did say this is the place for behavior discussion, and so I thought i'd give it a try. I'd like to start by providing back ground info. U can get some from my "new member" thread here:http://www.chazhound.com/forums/member.php?u=4108. I apologize ahead of time for this very long post. Now, my two dogs, Honey(family dog) and Sassy(my personal dog), are two totally different animals in personality. Both are currently living with my parents at home, whereas I live about 3 hours away in the town where I go to university. Honey is the gentlest dog i've ever met. She is a cockerspaniel, about 5 years old and i have never once in her entire life witnessed her bare her teeth, or growl in a threatening way. She will bark at people on the street but more in fear and to alert us, than out of anger. She loves all people, it would seem. The neighborhood my parents live in is rural and has a great love of dogs. I'd say about 40-50 percent of the people living on their street have owned or own a dog. Therefore, until recently when our neighbor moved in next door, we never had a real problem with letting her run free. Just about everyone on the street has done so with their dogs. With our new neighbor (well, he's been there about 3 years) we've let her run, but we watch to make sure she stays in the yard. She does so, as she is uncomfortable with straying far. About a year ago (late february, early march 2004), Sassy came into our lives and was placed in my care. I was never a main caretaker of our dogs (before honey, we had another cockerspaniel/family pet named Zach). She seemed like a normal puppy once she got over her initial illness (even the illness didn't slow her up). She would pounce playfully on Honey, and Honey merely ignored her and walked away. She has now passed her 1 year mark and I am growing concerned about some issues. 1) My first issue is how my parents raise her. It was obvious Sassy was a typical Beagle and could never be trusted to run free like honey, as her nose would only bring mischief. We have no fence in our yard, so my parents (since i left for college in summer 2004) only chain her on a long chain in our open backyard. I fear that my parents don't give her nearly enough attention, as they only chain her up, and leave her out their to do her business, then let her back in. When i am there, I walk her personally for at least an hour, or at least hang outside with her while she is chained. Further, while my parents never mistreat her, my father engages her in more aggressive playfulness such as tug of war and will wave his hands at her to make her jump at him and grumble at him in what he calls a playful manner. From what I have read, this is not something u r supposed to do, correct? my mother merely gives her a bone, and leaves her to it, unless Sassy is in her calm phase, in which time she is ready to recieve petting and cuddling. then my mother gives her that attention. They never seem to have problems while my parents work, as Sassy and honey have each other for company and seem to merely sleep while they are away. My concern, in general, is that my parents are not giving Sassy enough attention. They are used to honey, who is perfectly intent on being the cuddly pet who sits politely in your lap with no arguements. Sassy is far more energetic though.2) My second concern is Sassy's occassional aggression towards Honey. As a smally puppy, it was cute and playful when she would pounce on honey who was bigger than her at the time. Honey merely treated her as an annoying child and would walk away. In the last few months (i'd say since Sassy reached full growth) Sassy still is picking on Honey, but it is becoming worrisome. She growls, snarls and barks, and honey, while she doesn't bare her teeth, will growl and bark back. A couple weeks ago, my parents informed me Honey finally retaliated and it seems one of Honeys claws caught Sassy in the eye (no damage done otherwise and no blood has happened in any other scuffles, but it was a concern). These scuffles are becoming less and less common as Sassy got older (went from every day playful pouncing to once a month), but it has gotten violent, as my example shows. My thought is that they are either establishing dominance, or it is a jealousy thing. The latter theory stems from watching Sassy constantly taking honey's bones, and toys, and from watching sassy purposefully get too close to honey so that honey will move from her spot. When honey moves to the other couch, Sassy sometimes follows and gets too close so that honey will have to move again. I used to think that Sassy was just being sociable, but it seems possible that she is purposefully trying to annoy Honey. Am i just imagining this? (3) My last issue concerns behavior towards me and my parents. Now, honey, as i said, is the sweetest dog. She NEVER growls at us when she's eating, sleeping or anything like that or when we get near her with her toys in her possession. Sassy does none of the above either, EXCEPT for the sleeping thing. Sassy DESPISES being moved when she is asleep on our couch. She can be petted in a gentle manner (though, at first touch she will growl, but she calms at a gentle touch), but if it moves her, she will begin to growl, and sometimes snap at us. About a month or two ago, my dad tried to pet her, kiss her, and hug her while she rested on the couch. He came out of it with a bite on the face. Not a serious one that needed stitches, but it drew blood. I have not thought much of this, as i figured it is common for a dog not to want to be touched while sleeping or resting comfortably, but the only way we can seem to get her up out of this state is to tell her she's going outside (she is not trained for the "come" command, though i want to teach her if i ever can). When we approach her to take her to the kitchen to sleep when it's bedtime, she sits up and growls at us. we have to stand back and wait for her to calm down before we can take her, and even then we have to pick her up at arms length til she is calm. I'd probably say it's this last behavior that concerns me most. She never shows aggression towards ANYONE or ANYTHING EVER, except at these times (when in a resting position on the couch). Is this something i should be concerned about? I've never had troubles with honey growling at us when we pet her while she sleeps, yet Sassy does. Again, I REALLY apologize for this long, long post, but I want very much to be a good caretaker and to understand my friend and pet:) If I need to clarify or explain more in-depth on a certain issue, just ask:) Thank you to all who advise on this issue
 

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:/hmmm. I know it's alot to read, but i am concerned. any advice or suggestions would be good, thanks
 

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I am having trouble understand the exact questions but I'll put in my two cents. As far as chaining the poor baby up you might what to instead try and invisable fence. Many dogs are easily started while asleep and as you said she already has the concern that the dog she's playing with is aggressive towards her.

Don't what i said is exactly what you need to know or if i completely missed the point.
 

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I don't know what to tell you about the two dogs fighting other than they may need to be seperated. That's a tough one for me to advise you on. I bet someone else will have an idea there.

I hope I didn't miss much. Hopefully, what I missed, someone else will cover. Your post is long, but that's OK. You have to say what it takes to get out your thoughts and questions. :) What makes it easier to read a long post, is to put in paragraphs/spaces. For some reason I think it is easier to follow.

The fact that the dog is growling at you when you try to move her on the couch is signalling that she is confused about where she stands in the social order of your family. She is not sure who is the leader of the household and so she is thinking that she better try for the job. Her couch priveleges need to end NOW. Even though she is fine with so many other aspects...the food, the toys, this is enough of an indication that she is going to show you who's going to decide these things. (Now, it is remotely possible that she has a physical ailment which is causing her pain when you try to move her, so I'd have her checked by a vet)

Check out this site:

http://www.sspca.org/Dogs_TANSTAAFL.html

These suggestions need to be implimented right away and CONSISTANTLY. Make sure your dog knows that you are the head of the household....that all people are. Beef up your obedience training using positive methods. The head of the household is not harsh, but controls resources. Dog has to earn it's living in other words. If you're not there all the time to do this, try to convince your parents to work with her so they won't end up having to euthanize her.

Hope that helps some.

P.S. Have other people in the family ask the dog to do some of these things written about on that site and offer rewards for her compliance.

Also, don't ever put your face in the dog's face or hug the dog with your face right there. It is often construed by a dog to be an aggressive act and so they become defensive... because that is their body language when one dog is aggressing another. (glad your Dad is OK) Chaining a dog up will often create an aggression problem. They have a fight or flight drive and the flight is not an option when they're tied up. So, they're feeling defensive all the time. And I think it's very possible that because they think this way all the while they're tied, it carries over to times when they're not tied. It just gets into their head to think that way...a habit sort of. So I hope a fence can be put up or an invisible, electric one, as suggested before. Even a kennel would be better. Even a cable tie is preferable to a regular chaining up. That's a shame to tie up a dog and a shame the dog doesn't get enough attention. What about re-homing the dog? Is that an option?
 
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:D Thought i'd reply to some of the latter ones, even though it's been so late in coming, and give ya'll an update. lol. In response to a couple of comments... It was late whe i made the post, and didn't think about sound grammar structure. though i realize now it mighta helped ;) . also, my family knows all about not putting their face right up to a dogs, but my dad just slipped in thought. he knew he'd made a mistake. Finally, electric fence wouldn't be a great option for my beagle. EVERYTHING i've read says they aren't good cause of the dog's prey instincts. And, i knew it just from watching Sassy--she certainly has those instincts. Anyways, the dogs are behaving themselves, and my parents have gone from chaining her up, to walking her. been much better. They stilll haven't gotten a fence where she can just run around outside, but she's certainly getting her exercise and attention. And they've been working on the basic tricks. I worked a little with her when i came home for break in between semesters. Finally, sassy doesn't have a reason to growl at us anymore since she's no longer allowed on the couch:d. so it seems to all be working out. AS for that last comment about re-homing. I thought it was a little extreme to make that until i tried giving my parents a good kick in the butt. We're good owners, and have been for a long time. Sassy was what you'd call a completely new case for us as she was a little more stubborn to training and home return. Though, don't think i didn't have it as an option if they didn't fix things. i do care about the girl, after all. So do my parents. Thanks again all
 

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