Concern about Innova EVO

[Barb04]

This was posted on another dog board and wanted to find out if anyone knows more about this. Do you think it's still a good food to feed an adult dog (this person fed it to a puppy)?:

Re(4): all natural kibble??
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[/size][size=-2]Posted on August 21, 2005 at 02:19:16 AM by Chris[/size]

I fed Evo (42% protein) also and experienced very high levels in blood work. When I got my dog's blood work done for the PennHip her BUN and Creatine level were extremely high. We did 3-4 blood samples after this, urine analysis, electrolytes and everything was fine besides the BUN & Creatine. After switching her back to Solid Gold Wolfking (22% protein) for over a month I retested the blood work, and all levels were normal. So the only thing I changed was the Evo, I would never feed this high diet food again, she was 5-8 months old, and I have heard problems similar to this with pups. Might be OK with adults but still not worth the risk, I was destroying her kidneys and not even knowing it, showed no signs - I am just lucky I did the pre-anesthesia blood work and found the problem early. She was only on the food for 2 months prior to the high elevations in the blood. If you use it now you might want to spend the $35 and get bloodwork done to your dog just in case.

 

[Fran27]

It's a good question. I've always thought that too much protein wasn't good for dogs.

 

[Barb04]

h2305, that's great if my dogs lived in the wild. Mine happen to live in a house in a neighborhood. Let's get real here.

 

[Barb04]

Haven't heard back yet, know it's early for responsible answers, and I have to go out shopping now.

I've decided to try changing to Canidae. After looking back at my records on Max, when he was on Innova, he got ear infections; when we took him off, they went away.

I will still check back to see if anyone has any opinions. Thanks

 

[h2305]

edited for language

 

[yuckaduck]

Are you stupid or somthing? In the wild protein is all that dogs eat. But somtime they will eat trash though. This is what I say, just make your dog a freerange dog. Dont feed it it will find its own food.

How the heck did this bozo get off my ignore list. Someone has been playing with my computer.

 

[nedim]

How the heck did this bozo get off my ignore list. Someone has been playing with my computer.

Nope, the turd just re-registered.

 

[Fran27]

I got the same thing here Yuck hehe. He's back there now though.

 

[yuckaduck]

Nope, the turd just re-registered.

Oh smarty ain't he, oh well back he goes. Probably was missing out on the attention.

 

[yuckaduck]

I got the same thing here Yuck hehe. He's back there now though.

Oh yeah he has not gotten much better so back he goes.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

It would be fine if a dog lived out in the wild for it to just hunt for food, but for family dogs, they need food provided to them.

 

[Martine]

Haven't heard back yet, know it's early for responsible answers, and I have to go out shopping now.

I've decided to try changing to Canidae. After looking back at my records on Max, when he was on Innova, he got ear infections; when we took him off, they went away.

I will still check back to see if anyone has any opinions. Thanks

I'm sure Mordy will have a good answer on this one Barb.

 

[Renee750il]

I can see that possibly being a problem with some puppies, but with adult dogs it shouldn't be. One of my concerns that led me to switching to the EVO formula is bloat. A highly digestible diet that is higher in proteins is much better for breeds - like the molossers - who are prone to bloat.

One thing to look at too, Barb, is that these old guardian/working breeds like we have haven't had the tampering that some of their later-developed cousins do and are more primitive - for lack of a better word - in their dietary requirements. Look back to what your Max would have eaten in his native habitat.

 

[Mordy]

different dogs have different nutritional requirements - just like people do. that is why i can never answer people who ask "what is the best food for my dog".

old research that linked protein to kidney damage has been disproven, feeding even high amounts of protein to a normal, healthy dog isn't going to damage their kidneys.

however, that doesn't mean that every dog can tolerate highly concentrated dry dog food that contains a high protein percentage and only very little moisture. the reason for this is that the kidneys need water to function properly, and in a natural diet that's pretty much automatic with the moisture content of meat.

last but not least, there are many dogs out there who are predisposed to kidney problems and need specific dietary management, but that is most often more related to the phosphorus content rather than the protein content of the diet.

what we don't know in this scenario that the OP posted in that message is the normal baseline levels for the dog, what in her opinion is considered high and other factors. it's extremely difficult to dissect and analyze this kind of thing over the internet, since you rarely ever get the whole story including all the circumstances.

last but not least, dogs who eat a raw diet tend to have higher BUN and creatinine levels than dogs who eat commercial foods that contain high amounts of grain - which evo doesn't, so it wouldn't surprise me if the results were similar.

in a nutshell: yes it is possible that a particular food isn't ideal for an individual dog. the only way you can find out about this is trial and error and not skipping important parts of caring for your dog - such as periodic bloodwork.

 

[Barb04]

Renee that for your input.

Mordy thank you also for your very information answer.

I appreciate everyone's comments.