Welsh Collie and Highland Collie (old breeds)
And there are many breeds that came from the original collies (1800s), such as the Gordon Setter, the Coolie/Koolie and the Australian Cattle Dog, just to name a few.
Edit: I found what I was looking for!
Dogs of collie type or ancestry include:
* Australian Cattle Dog. Dog used in Australia for herding cattle. Dogs of this type are also known as Queensland Heeler, Blue Heeler and Red Heeler.
* Australian Collie. Not actually a breed, but a popular cross between two other collie types, Australian Shepherd and Border Collie.
* Australian Kelpie. Developed in Australia from collies originally brought from Scotland and northern England.
* Australian Shepherd. Developed in the US, probably from dogs of British origin (of Farm Collie type), but now found in other parts of the world (including Australia).
* Australian Stumpy Tail Cattle Dog. Dog with stumpy tail used in Australia for herding cattle.
* Bearded Collie. Now largely a pet and show breed, but still of collie type, and some are used as working dogs.
* Border Collie. The most well-known breed for herding sheep throughout the world. Originally developed in Scotland and Northern England. Not always suitable for herding cattle.
* English Shepherd. Developed in the US from stock of Farm Collie type originally from Britain. Not to be confused with the very different Old English Sheepdog.
* Farm Collie. Landrace herding dog found on many livestock farms in Britain, in the US (derived from British dogs), and perhaps elsewhere. In Britain, often simply called "farm dog".
* German Coolie, Koolie, or Collie. Developed in Australia, probably from British collies.
* Huntaway. Developed in New Zealand from a mixture of breeds, probably including some collie – but it is not of collie type.
* Lurcher. Not a breed, but a cross of collie (or other herding dog or terrier) with Greyhound or other sight hound. Traditionally bred for poaching, with the speed of a sight hound but more obedient and less conspicuous.
McNab (Shepherd). Developed in the US partly from dogs of collie type.
* Old English Sheepdog. Derived from "Shags", hairy herding dogs. Not to be confused with the English Shepherd.
Rough Collie and Smooth Collie (sometimes considered varieties of one breed, originally called Scotch Collie). Now show and pet dogs, these were created by crossing working collies with other dogs (especially Borzois) and are of rather different type to other collies.
* Shetland Sheepdog. A small show and pet breed developed in England partly from herding dogs originating in Shetland. The Shetland dogs were originally working herding dogs, not collies but of Spitz type (similar to the Icelandic Sheepdog). However in the development of the modern breed these Spitz-type dogs were heavily mixed with collies and toy breeds, and are now similar in appearance to a miniature Rough Collie.
* Welsh Sheepdog. Landrace herding dog from Wales.
from this site: http://www.heydogs.com/breeds/c/collie.html
And there are many breeds that came from the original collies (1800s), such as the Gordon Setter, the Coolie/Koolie and the Australian Cattle Dog, just to name a few.
Edit: I found what I was looking for!
Dogs of collie type or ancestry include:
* Australian Cattle Dog. Dog used in Australia for herding cattle. Dogs of this type are also known as Queensland Heeler, Blue Heeler and Red Heeler.
* Australian Collie. Not actually a breed, but a popular cross between two other collie types, Australian Shepherd and Border Collie.
* Australian Kelpie. Developed in Australia from collies originally brought from Scotland and northern England.
* Australian Shepherd. Developed in the US, probably from dogs of British origin (of Farm Collie type), but now found in other parts of the world (including Australia).
* Australian Stumpy Tail Cattle Dog. Dog with stumpy tail used in Australia for herding cattle.
* Bearded Collie. Now largely a pet and show breed, but still of collie type, and some are used as working dogs.
* Border Collie. The most well-known breed for herding sheep throughout the world. Originally developed in Scotland and Northern England. Not always suitable for herding cattle.
* English Shepherd. Developed in the US from stock of Farm Collie type originally from Britain. Not to be confused with the very different Old English Sheepdog.
* Farm Collie. Landrace herding dog found on many livestock farms in Britain, in the US (derived from British dogs), and perhaps elsewhere. In Britain, often simply called "farm dog".
* German Coolie, Koolie, or Collie. Developed in Australia, probably from British collies.
* Huntaway. Developed in New Zealand from a mixture of breeds, probably including some collie – but it is not of collie type.
* Lurcher. Not a breed, but a cross of collie (or other herding dog or terrier) with Greyhound or other sight hound. Traditionally bred for poaching, with the speed of a sight hound but more obedient and less conspicuous.
McNab (Shepherd). Developed in the US partly from dogs of collie type.
* Old English Sheepdog. Derived from "Shags", hairy herding dogs. Not to be confused with the English Shepherd.
Rough Collie and Smooth Collie (sometimes considered varieties of one breed, originally called Scotch Collie). Now show and pet dogs, these were created by crossing working collies with other dogs (especially Borzois) and are of rather different type to other collies.
* Shetland Sheepdog. A small show and pet breed developed in England partly from herding dogs originating in Shetland. The Shetland dogs were originally working herding dogs, not collies but of Spitz type (similar to the Icelandic Sheepdog). However in the development of the modern breed these Spitz-type dogs were heavily mixed with collies and toy breeds, and are now similar in appearance to a miniature Rough Collie.
* Welsh Sheepdog. Landrace herding dog from Wales.
from this site: http://www.heydogs.com/breeds/c/collie.html
From the WSU website: Aside from Collies (rough and smooth), " ... the MDR1 mutation has also been found in Shetland Sheepdogs (Shelties). Australian Shepherds, Old English Sheepdogs, English Shepherds, German Shepherds, Long-haired Whippets, Silken Windhounds, and a variety of mixed breed dogs."
And some more info from UC Davis: http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/cghg/mdr1b.php
Breeds seemingly unaffected by MDR1-1 (in reference to the Collie types listed before): Australian Cattle Dog, Australian Kelpie, Bearded Collie, Border Collie, Koolie. So you can't really use the Collie relation necessarily ...
Of course, the safest thing is to do an MDR1 test. 2 of my 3 present dogs are free of this mutation and are not drug sensitive, and 1 is slightly affected (carries one mutant gene, one normal gene).
And some more info from UC Davis: http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/cghg/mdr1b.php
Breeds seemingly unaffected by MDR1-1 (in reference to the Collie types listed before): Australian Cattle Dog, Australian Kelpie, Bearded Collie, Border Collie, Koolie. So you can't really use the Collie relation necessarily ...
Of course, the safest thing is to do an MDR1 test. 2 of my 3 present dogs are free of this mutation and are not drug sensitive, and 1 is slightly affected (carries one mutant gene, one normal gene).
It's probably anecdotal evidence, but enough so that WSU mentioned it, which is why I posted it. The MDR1 gene still such a relatively new thing (compared to some other issues we know about and can test for, like PRA) that I think they are just trying to cover all bases. GSDs do not show up on the UC Davis research chart, so I would lean towards possibly a medication-sensitive GSD as opposed to an MDR1 issue.
Or it could be possible that the one/some of the dogs listed as GSD were actually mixes and the owners didn't know and/or claim it when samples were submitted. I had several dogs that I submitted samples from to WSU as a part of that study and basically you had to fill out a questionnaire and submit the DNA sample - they didn't actually see most of their test cases from what I understand.
Or it could be possible that the one/some of the dogs listed as GSD were actually mixes and the owners didn't know and/or claim it when samples were submitted. I had several dogs that I submitted samples from to WSU as a part of that study and basically you had to fill out a questionnaire and submit the DNA sample - they didn't actually see most of their test cases from what I understand.
Either I'm imagining things, or there was a post that made reference to the collie-types and ivermectin sensitivity, and it's gone now. 
That's why I started my little tangent ...
Edit: Aha! i have it quoted in my earlier post, but it's not in the thread now. (Must have been editing after I responded).
That's why I started my little tangent ...Edit: Aha! i have it quoted in my earlier post, but it's not in the thread now. (Must have been editing after I responded).
colliewog
the queensland heeler & stumpy have little or no collie in them. they were derived primarily from the smithfield cattle dog (a black cur type dog) and the native dingo. in fact some rangier lines of stumpy are still referred to as smithfields.
the OES originated from crossing the smithfield & collies. in fact most british cattle dog trace back to the smithfield & cur dogs including the unlikely corgi.
the queensland heeler & stumpy have little or no collie in them. they were derived primarily from the smithfield cattle dog (a black cur type dog) and the native dingo. in fact some rangier lines of stumpy are still referred to as smithfields.
the OES originated from crossing the smithfield & collies. in fact most british cattle dog trace back to the smithfield & cur dogs including the unlikely corgi.
uhm curs (also cyr & kyr) predate the anglo saxon invasion of britain and were used in the creation of all subsequent british cattle dogs. David Carr writing for the OMCBA in Full Cry magazine had an article in the spring of 2004 that detailed the cur AS WE KNOW IT TODAY (hunter & herder, a generalist) since at least the 1300s. in fact illustrations of the smithfield from the 1700s show a dog nearly identical to the stephens stock of mountain cur.
the corgi OTH is purely a heeler whose conformation makes him most useful in moving cattle the short distances involved in intensive operations such as small farmsteads & butchers paddocks (a specialist developed centuries later).
the corgi OTH is purely a heeler whose conformation makes him most useful in moving cattle the short distances involved in intensive operations such as small farmsteads & butchers paddocks (a specialist developed centuries later).
Their temperament is distinctly different in my opinion. Most people make that mistake because they don't know about ES, but everyone knows what a BC is!
For example, everybody thinks our wirehaired pointing griffon is a german wirehaired pointer, but he's not (thank goodness!). The reason we went with a griffon even though they look the same and are more expensive is because the griffon temperament is much easier for our family to live with.
Too many folks out there think the outside of a dog is what makes it what it is. Much more than that, it's the energy levels, drives, temperament, etc. that really make a dog a collie, or a terrier, or a retriever, etc.
Perzactly. There a lot of breeds out there who look a lot alike, it is the temperament, drives and working abilities that set them apart.
For example, everybody thinks our wirehaired pointing griffon is a german wirehaired pointer, but he's not (thank goodness!). The reason we went with a griffon even though they look the same and are more expensive is because the griffon temperament is much easier for our family to live with.
Too many folks out there think the outside of a dog is what makes it what it is. Much more than that, it's the energy levels, drives, temperament, etc. that really make a dog a collie, or a terrier, or a retriever, etc.
For example, everybody thinks our wirehaired pointing griffon is a german wirehaired pointer, but he's not (thank goodness!). The reason we went with a griffon even though they look the same and are more expensive is because the griffon temperament is much easier for our family to live with.
Too many folks out there think the outside of a dog is what makes it what it is. Much more than that, it's the energy levels, drives, temperament, etc. that really make a dog a collie, or a terrier, or a retriever, etc.