Cockerspaniel Full Blood

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Would anyone tell me or does anyone know how much it would cost me to breed a male cockerspaniel with a female. Im looking to breed but I dont know how much it would cost me to. If it costs more then to get him neutored ill just get him neutored. lol. Id like to see him have puppies though. hes just so cute.
 

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It shouldnt cost you a thing. They should be paying you for stud fee.
Problem is you need to find a reputable breeder who wants your male.
Do you show your male? Does he carry a title or is at least close to one? How old is he?
By the sounds of your post its your pet dog and if it were me in your shoes I would have him neutered.
 

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I think if you read the Stickys you will find answers to all of your breeding questions ;)

It is very expensive to breed dogs, but to neuter a dog it will probably cost around (less than) $100 depending on your area
 

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The world does not need more back yard bred cockers (or any other breed for that matter) there are plenty of homeless dogs sitting in shelters all over the world already. In the USA somewhere between 8-12 million dogs are euthanised in shelters through no fault of their own. Please do not contribute to this very tragic problem. Cuteness is not a good enough reason to breed a dog. If money is your only consideration, it costs quite a bit of money to pay for all the health clearances he would need to get from the vet ie OFA hips etc
 

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I am sure your cocker is very cute. You should post some picture so we can see him :)

On another note, breeding dogs is a very big responsibility, that is, if you want to do it ethically. It costs a lot of money, and takes a lot of time. If you want to be an irresponsible breeder and creat more dogs just because your's is cute then I am sure you could find an inexpensive way to cut corners.

Please keep in mind that if your dog is neutered he will have less behavioral and health problems and you will reduce his risk of testicular cancer to zero. If you leave him intact, you also run the risk of living with a dog that urinates in your house when he reaches maturity.

If you want to breed your dog responsibly and for the right reasons then you need to compete with him. He needs to be evaluated by judges and top breeders to determine if he should contribute to the future of cockers. You can compete in the confirmation ring or work in the field with him, but either way his fate with breeding should be based way beyond "cuteness."

Some things to consider:
All breeding dogs should at least have the following,

1.) Be titled in some area of competition
2.) Be tested for genetic problems and disease i.e. OFA, CERF, Cardiac etc.
3.) Have stable temperaments that are true to their breed.
4.) Be tested and cleared for brucellosis.

Have you thought about if he is carrying any genetic problems that could be passed to his puppies? Are his patellas good, is his heart strong are his eyes clear from disease? How do you know? Has he been tested? How would you find a female to mate him with? Would the puppies be sold on contract? These are all things that responsible breeders who care about the future of their breed take into account.

I am sure you don't want to produce more puppies that end up in shelters. Dogs should be bred for one reason - to better their breed. Breeding a dog for pet puppies alone is not a good reason to breed.

I just recently added up how much it will cost to breed my bitch Alice next year. After the stud fee, progesterone testing, surgical AI implant, ellective c-section and post-partum puppy care I am looking at around $3000. I guarantee you it's cheaper to neuter your dog, even if he is the male and not the female!
 
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I got my dog neutered for under $200. That didn't include the extra $175 that we needed when he had to go back for another surgery because he swelled up so bad and put preassure on his staples. Even with all that it's still much much cheaper than breeding. I don't breed and never plan on it and don't know much about it. Just from reading the posts from this forum I agree with what everyone else has said.

I got my dog when he was 4 and he was intact. The first thing my vet talked to me about was neutering and testicular cancer. I knew I wanted to neuter him anyways but it's great that my vet talked to me about it.
 

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Unless your dog is titled , health checked etc I doubt if you will be sought out as a having a promising stud . If you advertise stud service , you will only attract BYBs ..... please neuter.
 
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Breeding, done right, isn't cheap. You would need to title your boy in conformation. (If it takes 10 shows, that's $250-300, not including travel expenses.) Then you'd have to get him health-tested. (Let's say heart, patellas and eyes. $80 at a health clinic, again not including travel expenses.) Then to prove he's more than just a pretty face, you should probably get an obedience title. (If he qualifies in 3 trials, $45-75.) Its also a good idea to get a brucellosis test on both dog and bitch, and I have no idea how much that costs.

So that's the better part of $500 to get what I would consider a bare minimum for a good stud dog. If the bitch isn't local, then you get the joy of watching her at your house during her heat cycle. You'd have to keep her away from all other dogs to insure she doesn't mate with any other males or fight with other females. Or you'd have to have his sperm banked and sent to where the bitch is at, and that's very costly. (Hundreds of dollars.)

So short version, if its not something you're really serious about, it'd be best to do the neuter and let it go at that. Better to leave the hassle and heartbreak to those who really want to deal with it, and know what they're doing beyond a shadow of a doubt. :)
 

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Please don't take what I'm going to say as an attack, I'm just going to answer your question in the most forthright way I know how, because I believe it's a waste of your time (or mine), to sugar coat these things.

If you had to come online here to ask these questions, you are NOT ready to breed your dog. The first clue is in your tagline- it's not a "full blood" Cocker Spaniel, it's a "purebred." True, it's just semantics, but the fact that you didn't know this is a big sign that you haven't researched this enough to do it right. It takes an obscene amount of money to do this correctly, and an even larger amount of time and research.

Cockers also have a fair number of genetic health AND temperament defects- if you don't know what is in your boy's history (and that of the dam as well), you could unwittingly pass it down to an entire litter of puppies. Some of these diseases are fatal, others are "fixable" but cost upwards of thousands of dollars to "fix." Some of the temperamental problems are severe enough that they could very well make the puppies a liability for you. If you have never heard of "rage syndrome" it is a temperament disorder that is not very well understood at all, but basically makes the affected dog an unpredictable biter- one that gives NO warning signals pre-bite, and then after the fact, seems completely normal. This disorder DOES occur in Cockers, and DOES have a genetic factor to it. That's one of the few things you would need to seriously consider BEFORE you breed, and as there is no test for "rage syndrome" (as it is so poorly understood at the moment), you would need to have a VERY good understanding of your dog's lineage before you decided to breed.

At the very least you would also need to get your boy's hips tested by OFA or PennHipp, eyes checked with CERF, and heart tested as well. You would need to research what OTHER genetic problems are common in cockers, and have your dog tested for those as well. Puppies that have a myriad of genetic health defects are at best, unsellable. Even WORSE than that, is the knowledge that you have brought a tiny life into this world that you COULD have protected from pain and suffering, but CHOSE not to because "tests are too expensive."

Tests are expensive, yes- but they are part and parcel of being a GOOD breeder.

Neutering your dog will be WAY cheaper than breeding.

Neuter him, and enjoy him for who HE is, not just what he can produce! We'd all love to see some photos of your guy!
 

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Also, another sign for me is that you didn't say whether your boy was an American or English Cocker Spaniel. They're two different breeds, so that might be important.

I agree with what's been said, I don't think you're ready to stud out a dog. It's a huge commitment to make sure you are going about things responsibly. Both financially and time wise. We have a dog that we're thinking about studding eventually. I've calculated it all up and we've already dropped about $3000 on gaining Beau's Champion title (took 12 shows), traveling, and conformation and obedience classes, etc. It'd be much cheaper to just neuter. And we've still got to get his tests run- CERF, OFA, cardiac, etc. CERF is really important as PRA is a major medical issue in the breed. There's also the fact that his bloodline is tested for all these things, so we have a very good history on what to look out for, etc. Do you know what medical issues are in your breed? And if any of those tests come back with bad scores, he'll be neutered. So there's 3000 out of our pockets. Then you also have to spend time finding a bitch that meets all the same requirements. So it's a huge commitment. You'll end up with a stud fee, but that'll hardly cover the cost.

Just because your dog is a great dog, and I'm sure yours is, it doesn't mean they should be bred. I have two wonderful dogs, but they weren't cut out to be breeding dogs, so I had them fixed and am enjoying spenidng time with them. The dog doesn't need a litter to be 'fulfilled' or anything.
 

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wow. everyone has surprised me. haha. i was the last words on the first post "he's just so cute" or something and thought OH no. he's going to get flamed off the forum. but everyone's been really nice and explainging about it.

i agree though, breeding is expensive, frustrating and takes a lot of time and effort. even if you got all the health checks on your boy and the bitch. remember whoever owns the bitch has maybe 10 puppies that have to be fed, trained, loved and socialised.

i'm not going to repeat all the testing you have to have done because people have said it all before and, quite frankly, i havn't looked into it myself
 
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Wait are you talking about your 6 year old Cocker? The one's who's puppies you want to "donate" to the elderly? Isn't it a little late to just begin breeding him now? I don't think you need to be breeding dogs to donate when so many or already homeless. The elderly can go to a shelter to adopt if they want to. Plus do you really think an elderly person is going to want to have to train and housebreak a pup? Then have to spend the money to vaccinate and neuter them all? Are they going to be able to get out and go to the store and buy food and take them to the vets?

And, nothing against them, but they are elderly, what is going to happen when they pass away and there sits this dog that is now homeless too. Might end up in a shelter. Or be left with family who don't really want a pup in the first place...

I think you definately need to neuter him. You seem like you have good intentions but he is done with his breeding days I would think. Have you had him since he was a pup? Where did you get him from? Have you had all the tests done? That is so incredibly expensive. Neutering him just makes more sense and costs maybe thousands of dollars less.
 

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wow. everyone has surprised me. haha. i was the last words on the first post "he's just so cute" or something and thought OH no. he's going to get flamed off the forum. but everyone's been really nice and explainging about it.
I think we all deserve a cookie ;) .
 

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