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About the sizes of Pasha and Dasha...
Unless the man behind them is 7 feet tall, I would estimate Pasha about 28 inches and Dasha possibly 26?
Here is 34 inch Caucasian next to me - 5'8'' woman. Compare the inseam line if you wish.
I don't understand the need to "upgrade" the size of your dog that some people have.
Here is a 32 inch 13 month old puppy.
And here he is again (I am still 5'8''
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I have seen pictures of Pasha and Dasha with the rottweilers on MD, and there is not much difference in size between these (the last I checked rotties were 22-25'' and 24-27'' for females and males according to AKC).
Unless the man behind them is 7 feet tall, I would estimate Pasha about 28 inches and Dasha possibly 26?
Here is 34 inch Caucasian next to me - 5'8'' woman. Compare the inseam line if you wish.
I don't understand the need to "upgrade" the size of your dog that some people have.
Here is a 32 inch 13 month old puppy.
And here he is again (I am still 5'8''
)
I have seen pictures of Pasha and Dasha with the rottweilers on MD, and there is not much difference in size between these (the last I checked rotties were 22-25'' and 24-27'' for females and males according to AKC).
Im sorry being in contact with via the internet vs owning -working -training and or breeding them is not the same. Let alone actually SEEING one in person. People with NO personal knowledge have no idea the damage done until it is to late.
You live in BSL headquarters In Canada the danger inherant to miss information can cause the extinction of the breed.
I would love to know what your sources are?.
Once you provide the source I will fact check it by sending a email to the President of the Caucasian Club in Russia who has visited me years ago.
I learned allot more from her than anyone else. We could go strait to the horses mouth per say.
You never know I could be wrong I dont breed Caucasians and even thou I have tons more knowledge direct about them then you do. I may of missed something in the translation.
PS Your pups pics are great . Would love to here more about them..
You live in BSL headquarters In Canada the danger inherant to miss information can cause the extinction of the breed.
I would love to know what your sources are?.
Once you provide the source I will fact check it by sending a email to the President of the Caucasian Club in Russia who has visited me years ago.
I learned allot more from her than anyone else. We could go strait to the horses mouth per say.
You never know I could be wrong I dont breed Caucasians and even thou I have tons more knowledge direct about them then you do. I may of missed something in the translation.
PS Your pups pics are great . Would love to here more about them..
Wow those Caucasians just posted are really SUPERB.
I will be lic to judge them next year in UKC and those are BIS dogs..
What I see is "marked" sexual differences in standard for the CO.
Males have to be MALEEESSS , for a breeder some of the females above are
very doggie which can help in breeding . Even thou some judges want a female to look like a female. I want a doggie female every 3 generations so not to lose, head type and bone and size like the original CO pic.
Regards to the muzzle OC spirit you are correct having a muzzle around can be helpfull if a dog gets injured and you need to take the dog to the 911 Vet.
I got a few years ago never used them and putting them on ebay this week.
But "needing" one to walk down a city street is no correct for any LGD.
I used to use a halti lead for the one fear aggressive CAS I own.
Now she is fine..
The breed should protect and they cant protect muzzled..
I will be lic to judge them next year in UKC and those are BIS dogs..
What I see is "marked" sexual differences in standard for the CO.
Males have to be MALEEESSS , for a breeder some of the females above are
very doggie which can help in breeding . Even thou some judges want a female to look like a female. I want a doggie female every 3 generations so not to lose, head type and bone and size like the original CO pic.
Regards to the muzzle OC spirit you are correct having a muzzle around can be helpfull if a dog gets injured and you need to take the dog to the 911 Vet.
I got a few years ago never used them and putting them on ebay this week.
But "needing" one to walk down a city street is no correct for any LGD.
I used to use a halti lead for the one fear aggressive CAS I own.
Now she is fine..
The breed should protect and they cant protect muzzled..
Not quite. You stated that anyone with a "true LGD" shoud be prepared for the dog to blow up uncontrollably.
I would respectfully ask you to not make these kinds of statements about the breed that you only have seen two 18 month old puppies as representatives.
COs are extremely intelligent dogs, and when well bred and properly socialised - fully capable of being in public without any muzzles or even leashes (if by law "off leash" is an option). They are discriminate real threat from a goofy butt-head on a street with ease.
Here are some of my COs in a dog park with people, dogs and babies... And let me assure you - nobody got hurt. But then again, they have been going in public since 7 weeks old several times a week.
And by the way - this is the same dog during temperament test at home.
And at the crowded dog show in Connecticut Pet Expo.
I would respectfully ask you to not make these kinds of statements about the breed that you only have seen two 18 month old puppies as representatives.
COs are extremely intelligent dogs, and when well bred and properly socialised - fully capable of being in public without any muzzles or even leashes (if by law "off leash" is an option). They are discriminate real threat from a goofy butt-head on a street with ease.
Here are some of my COs in a dog park with people, dogs and babies... And let me assure you - nobody got hurt. But then again, they have been going in public since 7 weeks old several times a week.
And by the way - this is the same dog during temperament test at home.
And at the crowded dog show in Connecticut Pet Expo.
Hey i never said anything about them blowing up at all, I know I wrote things inappropriately and here''s exactly what I''m trying to say:
Anybody with a CO with a true CO temperment should be prepared to pull out a muzzle in certain circumstances for the safety of the dog in the early stages of training and socializing. Eventually yes the muzzle should be able to be eliminated but at times you do get COs that are so sharp it is best to keep the muzzle on when in urban areas in case you run into punks that want to jostle you to get your dog going by doing things such as sneaking up from behind and giving the dog a smack on the rump or barking at it and howling and essentially just being jerks around the dog. I''ve had it happen to me with my Huskies but luckily these guys are no way even comparable to a CO.
Anyways I have asked for the removal of the pictures of Pasha, it is sad to see that some people can''t take a thread for what it is - a series of pictures of some pretty dogs and must instead turn it into a debate. It''s too bad too since Pasha is so handsome people must now miss out on seeing him.
When/if I ever get my own LGD whether it be a CO, CAO or Sar I hope to be able to walk it in public without a muzzle with lots of training and socializing but I will always have a muzzle on hand just in case I wish to try some socializing in a more stressful situation. I''d rather a muzzle save a person from getting bit than my dog having to get put down because he reacted in what his mind would be a proper way because someone was a jerk to us. Y'know?
Anybody with a CO with a true CO temperment should be prepared to pull out a muzzle in certain circumstances for the safety of the dog in the early stages of training and socializing. Eventually yes the muzzle should be able to be eliminated but at times you do get COs that are so sharp it is best to keep the muzzle on when in urban areas in case you run into punks that want to jostle you to get your dog going by doing things such as sneaking up from behind and giving the dog a smack on the rump or barking at it and howling and essentially just being jerks around the dog. I''ve had it happen to me with my Huskies but luckily these guys are no way even comparable to a CO.
Anyways I have asked for the removal of the pictures of Pasha, it is sad to see that some people can''t take a thread for what it is - a series of pictures of some pretty dogs and must instead turn it into a debate. It''s too bad too since Pasha is so handsome people must now miss out on seeing him.
When/if I ever get my own LGD whether it be a CO, CAO or Sar I hope to be able to walk it in public without a muzzle with lots of training and socializing but I will always have a muzzle on hand just in case I wish to try some socializing in a more stressful situation. I''d rather a muzzle save a person from getting bit than my dog having to get put down because he reacted in what his mind would be a proper way because someone was a jerk to us. Y'know?
It is some strange places you are walking your dogs in.
I have to tell you - if I am walking my COs and some idiot sneaks up behind me and smacks my dogs on the bum - he/she should be more afraid of me, not my dog. Because I will not allow my dog to get in trouble, but I am not wearing a muzzle myself.
Frankly, you are writing like a five year old, dreaming up situations that would support your argument.
I have to tell you - if I am walking my COs and some idiot sneaks up behind me and smacks my dogs on the bum - he/she should be more afraid of me, not my dog. Because I will not allow my dog to get in trouble, but I am not wearing a muzzle myself.
Frankly, you are writing like a five year old, dreaming up situations that would support your argument.
-The only thing OC wanted to do was to show her pics, and tell about her trip...
if someone thought that there was a problem with what she was saying there should have been a new thread started instead of ruining her trip thread..
Great pics loved all of them..Glad you had a great time
my favorite was the pitty pup
if someone thought that there was a problem with what she was saying there should have been a new thread started instead of ruining her trip thread..
Great pics
loved all of them..Glad you had a great time my favorite was the pitty pup
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"Anyways I have asked for the removal of the pictures of Pasha, it is sad to see that some people can''t take a thread for what it is - a series of pictures of some pretty dogs and must instead turn it into a debate. It''s too bad too since Pasha is so handsome people must now miss out on seeing him"
I agree _however the owner of these dogs _your friend _ attacked NOT questioned _my dogs here on Chaz _in a thread NOT pertaining to CO's or chat or debate _ he refused to answer his attack _ and then his dogs are put here..Also I did not sink to his level and attack his dogs and said the dog is very pretty here.
So their is more to this thread than meets the eye . Than some can not follow. Allot of underlined things regarding the promotion of the "breeder" of those dogs.
What I am very concerned is young people get inaccurate information about rare breeds from breeders & websites *with NO expertise or reference and than passing along this inaccurate information thru the net..
It causes a domino affect that leads to BSL..
The breeds in this topic are NEW Rare etc they need proper presentation with accurate information to be able to survive the push towards BSL.
And sadly since Rare means anyone can state a opinion and present it as fact and most people would not know the difference between fact and opinion based in missconceptions and breed hype.
PS Your pics were great amazing the bulldogs are great and the CO is pretty pet . The info you passes was wrong thats all..
I agree _however the owner of these dogs _your friend _ attacked NOT questioned _my dogs here on Chaz _in a thread NOT pertaining to CO's or chat or debate _ he refused to answer his attack _ and then his dogs are put here..Also I did not sink to his level and attack his dogs and said the dog is very pretty here.
So their is more to this thread than meets the eye . Than some can not follow. Allot of underlined things regarding the promotion of the "breeder" of those dogs.
What I am very concerned is young people get inaccurate information about rare breeds from breeders & websites *with NO expertise or reference and than passing along this inaccurate information thru the net..
It causes a domino affect that leads to BSL..
The breeds in this topic are NEW Rare etc they need proper presentation with accurate information to be able to survive the push towards BSL.
And sadly since Rare means anyone can state a opinion and present it as fact and most people would not know the difference between fact and opinion based in missconceptions and breed hype.
PS Your pics were great amazing the bulldogs are great and the CO is pretty pet . The info you passes was wrong thats all..
