Car problem question...

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  1. milos_mommy

    milos_mommy Active Member

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    I currently drive a 2009 Pontiac G3 with less than 30,000 miles on it. I've never had any problems, it's never had work done.

    The other night, it was really cold out, and I went to start my car. The battery (lights, radio) came on, but the engine did not start. It didn't make any unusual noises. Just didn't start. I tried a handful of times, nothing.

    My dad tried to look at it a little while later. Still wouldn't start, but when he turned the radio off and then tried again, it started.

    Since then, I've started it multiple times (radio on and off) with ZERO problems. My dad thinks it could be an electrical problem.

    Does anyone know what could have caused this, or if I need it looked at or the fact that it was a on-time thing and nothing else is wrong means I shouldn't worry about it?
     
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    Funny, I just had to give my son a jump start yesterday.....he drives a 2007 pontiac G6 and has never had issues with it yet. The radio still came on, but it was just too cold for the battery to crank it over.........it was like in the low 20's!

    If you live where it's really cold I would STILL suspect the battery first. Radio and lights can still work with a low battery.......but it takes a LOT of juice to turn over a really cold engine so if your battery is low/getting old, I'd start with that. Then I personally would move on to the alternator if need be.

    EDIT: I know autozone will check your battery for free.........at least they used to. You don't want to drive it around the rest of the winter on a potential bad battery....hard telling where you may get stranded!
     
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    milos_mommy Active Member

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    Oh Coop, that's interesting, I just assumed if the battery was going on it wasn't the battery!

    It was below freezing and the car hadn't been started in about two days, so it probably was the battery. I have plenty of experience jumping my car (I'm notorious for killing car batteries. It's a special talent.)
     
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    Well if it was below freezing and the car hadn't been started in a couple days, I DEFINITELY say battery! And what's more, the battery might not even be 'bad'.......it's just cold is very hard on them and they really need a good daily charge from the alternator in this kind of weather :)

    Be sure to start her up daily even if you don't want to go anywhere, LOL
     
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    If it's got less than 30,000 miles on it, it should still be under warranty - in which case I'd take it in just in case if it continues to happen, BEFORE the warranty runs out.
     
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    For grins, if it happens again, move the gear selector from "Park" to "Neutral" and try again. If you have a bad/intermittent contact in the neutral safety switch, that could cause random starting issues. Your dad could have bumped the gear selector when messing with the radio causing the contacts to close better.

    Just a thought.
     
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    Same thing happened to me yesterday. Got in the Impala and turned the key - radio came on but engine didn't start. Tried again - nope. Hit the button to turn the radio off and ta-da! No problem.

    It has been a little touchy starting up with it being so cold even though I drive it every day. I would also suspect battery before worrying about an electrical problem, especially if it doesn't continue to happen.
     
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    Battery is my first thought, especially if you have killed it a few times becasue that does take it's toll on them. In cold weather it is always advised to turn off the radio/stereo before you turn the vehicle off when shutting it down. I really wish lights would come on manually like they used to or on a delay after starting for this very reason :)
     
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    I had an old truck that was a doozy to start when it was cold (& I am in south tx, so it doesnt get COLD cold here, the coldest we get is in the 20's) the battery was fine, but it was like hell to get the engine to start & if you crank it a few times unsuccessfully you risk draining the battery.

    I vote for a battery problem, my truck has 130,000 mi on it & I have replaced a few batteries because its not the running of the car its the starting of the car esp in cold weather that drains juice.

    unrelated: I was driving along on the HW & everything was fine, (it was hot, I had the radio/AC going) then my truck started to sputter, then it just upped & died. it turned out to be the fuel pump, when you run your AC the compressor runs off the engine, the fuel pump was wearing out & couldnt supply the engine with the extra fuel nessessary to run the compressor & the engine/truck. so I turned off the AC & was able to get to a mechanics shop.

    do you park your car in a garage? if not, can you? maybe put a heater on it to help the ole battery? thats what I did with my old truck, just put a heater on it so the engine wasnt so cold.
     
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    Eddie, I did try that just to see if it wasn't fully in park...didn't help.

    Ado, I've actually never killed this car battery. (The lights go off automatically). I'm gonna go with battery and not worry unless it happens again
     
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    I had the same thing happen with our Windstar a few times. No rhyme or reason as to why it wouldn't start, or when. The "idiot lights", power window, clock, etc all worked, the engine just didn't even try to turn over. After the 3rd or 4th time, we'd had enough and had it towed to the dealer. Turns out it was the ignition.
     
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    Those don't take much juice, turning over an engine ... ESP a cold engine take a lot more juice then running the radio or idiot lights.
     
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    Haven't read the whole thread, but asked DH, who is very into cars, and he said that since the battery is about 4 years old and it had been cold that it could be the battery. He says you can have it checked for free at AutoZone.
     
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    Good vibes that its a simple battery, not a bad alternator.

    Though you mentioned it's under warranty so if it is the alternator it should be covered.
     
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    That wasn't me, someone else said it SHOULD be under warranty (I'm assuming they're right...not sure if Pontiac going entirely out of business would affect that.)

    I'm not gonna worry much, it's started fine a bunch of times since then. If it happens again I'll jump it and get it looked at. I don't think it's the alternator, alternators are the only thing about cars that I know anything about.
     
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    I would say it is the battery since its so old.

    How long have you had your car? You bought it when poniac was still a company like still in business? & you only have 30K on it? I'm jealous, I can put 100K on my vechiles in a year :/.
     
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    A 3 year old car is old? Not trying to be snarky - I know jack about cars, but I'm one of those drive-it-until-it's-falling-apart-at-the-seams people, so to me 2009 is a really new car.
     
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    sillysally Obey the Toad.

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    Car batteries tend to start dying after about 4 years. I'm guessing she was saying that the battery was old, not the car.
     
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    No, the car is from 2009. And I was unable to drive for medical reasons for a large portion of medical issues. I've never worked more than 10 miles away from home, and have never taken the car on a road trip at all
     
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    Oh! Okay, that makes more sense.
     

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