Canned Dog food
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Mordy is the expert here but my advice to you would be to search through the threads in this forum. There is lots of advice on canned dog food and dog food in general. Bascially if it's a good quality dry food they USUALLY have a decent (if not better) canned food. I wouldn't feed either alpo or kibbles and bits.
For fun compare Innova canned: http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=product-detail&pxsl=//product[@id='35']
Turkey
Chicken
Spring Water
Potatoes
Ground Brown Rice
Chicken Fat
Egg
Apples
Carrots
Cottage Cheese
Garlic
Sunflower Oil
Alfalfa Sprouts
Herring
Locust Bean Gum
Vitamins/Minerals
with Kibbles and Bits dry:
Ingredients
INGREDIENTS: Corn, soybean meal, ground wheat flour, beef & bone meal, animal fat (BHA used as preservatives), corn syrup, wheat middlings, water sufficient for processing, animal digest (source of chicken flavor), propylene glycol, salt, hydrochloric acid, potassium chloride, caramel color, sorbic acid (used as a preservative), sodium carbonate, choline chloride, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, manganous oxide, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), vitamins (vitamin E supplement, niacin supplement, vitamin A supplement, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), calcium sulfate, titanium dioxide, yellow 5, red 40, yellow 6, BHA (used as a preservative), dl-methionine.
and Kibbles and Bits wet:
Water sufficient for processing, poultry, liver, lamb, wheat gluten, wheat flour, modified startch, parboiled rice, peas, carrots, potatoes, bone meal, corn syrup, soy protein concentrate, salt, onion extract, potassium chloride, garlic extract, parsley, titanium dioxide, vitamins (vitamin a supplement, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin e supplement, niacin supplement, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin d3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin b12 supplement), iron oxide, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, manganous oxide, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), natural flavor. AD01.757
Turkey
Chicken
Spring Water
Potatoes
Ground Brown Rice
Chicken Fat
Egg
Apples
Carrots
Cottage Cheese
Garlic
Sunflower Oil
Alfalfa Sprouts
Herring
Locust Bean Gum
Vitamins/Minerals
with Kibbles and Bits dry:
Ingredients
INGREDIENTS: Corn, soybean meal, ground wheat flour, beef & bone meal, animal fat (BHA used as preservatives), corn syrup, wheat middlings, water sufficient for processing, animal digest (source of chicken flavor), propylene glycol, salt, hydrochloric acid, potassium chloride, caramel color, sorbic acid (used as a preservative), sodium carbonate, choline chloride, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, manganous oxide, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), vitamins (vitamin E supplement, niacin supplement, vitamin A supplement, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), calcium sulfate, titanium dioxide, yellow 5, red 40, yellow 6, BHA (used as a preservative), dl-methionine.
and Kibbles and Bits wet:
Water sufficient for processing, poultry, liver, lamb, wheat gluten, wheat flour, modified startch, parboiled rice, peas, carrots, potatoes, bone meal, corn syrup, soy protein concentrate, salt, onion extract, potassium chloride, garlic extract, parsley, titanium dioxide, vitamins (vitamin a supplement, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin e supplement, niacin supplement, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin d3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin b12 supplement), iron oxide, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, manganous oxide, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), natural flavor. AD01.757
Hmmmm...canned dog food and kibbles are both designed to give our dogs the nutrients they need. I'm not saying canned dog foods are incompetent or incapable of giving dogs the nutrients they need. Its just that, kibbles can do very much the same thing and you'll get more value for your money since it contains less water. Believe it or not, every canned dog food contains more water than food. So, instead of buying canned dog food why don't you just give your dogs plain meat? Just my opinion.
a very simple answer:
plain meat is unbalanced and will make dogs very sick if fed long-term without balancing the diet properly.
canned food is properly balanced (unless it's 100% meat without additives) and a good way to feed healthier for those people who don't want to worry about meeting nutritional needs or spending a lot of time preparing food for their pets.
plain meat is unbalanced and will make dogs very sick if fed long-term without balancing the diet properly.
canned food is properly balanced (unless it's 100% meat without additives) and a good way to feed healthier for those people who don't want to worry about meeting nutritional needs or spending a lot of time preparing food for their pets.
I think for a high quality food like Natura, the price of their canned foods are very reasonable. You could also try Canidae which is economical.
I find Nature's Variety (although good food) is very costly, so is Solid Gold and Wellness.
Bowowee, that is why Mordy & others recommend high quality canned foods . Sometimes it's cheaper to buy quality canned than quality raw. Although I'm sure every one agrees that a variety between kibble, canned, raw, dehydrated, freeze dried and home cooked is always easy and cost effiecient.
I find Nature's Variety (although good food) is very costly, so is Solid Gold and Wellness.
Bowowee, that is why Mordy & others recommend high quality canned foods
. Sometimes it's cheaper to buy quality canned than quality raw. Although I'm sure every one agrees that a variety between kibble, canned, raw, dehydrated, freeze dried and home cooked is always easy and cost effiecient. I'm sorry Mordy but again I have to disagree with you. If you have 300 grams of kibbles and 300 grams of canned food which one will provide you more nutritional value? Kibbles mostly contains 13-14% moisture now if we remove all that moisture in it and just leave out the dry matter in it, you'll be left out with more or less 258 grams of food. In contrast with canned food which contains not less than 70% water wherein when you remove all the moisture included will result into only 90 grams of food.Now, which has more nutritional value?
Less grains and fillers? For the grains most of the so called meat in it are mostly soy. For the fillers, what more can you ask for? Its more than 70% water.
Less grains and fillers? For the grains most of the so called meat in it are mostly soy. For the fillers, what more can you ask for? Its more than 70% water.
I'm sorry Mordy you did not get me on this. What is saying is instead of giving canned food with the kibbles why don't you just give plain meat instead like beef, pork, chevon, lamb, etc. to go with the kibbles.
I'm not saying that canned dog food is not properly balanced. I'm only pointing out that you'll get better value and same results with kibbles at a lower price. The reason for this is because canned food contains more water than food. Thus, you'll end up paying more for water than food.
I'm not saying that canned dog food is not properly balanced. I'm only pointing out that you'll get better value and same results with kibbles at a lower price. The reason for this is because canned food contains more water than food. Thus, you'll end up paying more for water than food.
Athebeau said:
I think for a high quality food like Natura, the price of their canned foods are very reasonable. You could also try Canidae which is economical.
I find Nature's Variety (although good food) is very costly, so is Solid Gold and Wellness.
Bowowee, that is why Mordy & others recommend high quality canned foods . Sometimes it's cheaper to buy quality canned than quality raw. Although I'm sure every one agrees that a variety between kibble, canned, raw, dehydrated, freeze dried and home cooked is always easy and cost effiecient.
I find Nature's Variety (although good food) is very costly, so is Solid Gold and Wellness.
Bowowee, that is why Mordy & others recommend high quality canned foods
. Sometimes it's cheaper to buy quality canned than quality raw. Although I'm sure every one agrees that a variety between kibble, canned, raw, dehydrated, freeze dried and home cooked is always easy and cost effiecient.
Mordy is not a quack. She is an expert on food and nutrition because she studies it, has a website ( www.mordanna.com/dogfood ) all about nutrition and is writing a book.
There is nothing wrong with feeding a high quality canned food. It's has good water content which is good for their teeth and kidneys I believe and because it is canned it doesn't need preservatives like other food does.
There is nothing wrong with feeding a high quality canned food. It's has good water content which is good for their teeth and kidneys I believe and because it is canned it doesn't need preservatives like other food does.
She has a very nice website. I've seen her site. Its good. I've read her foods to avoid list and I saw some stuff that are mostly included in all brands of kibbles and canned food. Kibbles and Canned Dog Food are products produced by a lot of dog food companies. They both have preservatives and mostly contains the same thing with exception to water content. I don't see any basis on why water content has anything to do with the dogs kidneys. The ingredients that are included in the food will cause the kidney problems not the water content. Canned foods mostly have preservatives thats why they are canned. They are preserved.
I guess you've never canned anything then. The process of canning preserves food. Not what you put in it.
Water is vital for kidney function. There's plenty of info on the web about that. In the wild dogs get a lot more water from their food. Kibble has very little water content which is why I add water to mine when they get it.
Water is vital for kidney function. There's plenty of info on the web about that. In the wild dogs get a lot more water from their food. Kibble has very little water content which is why I add water to mine when they get it.
I personally like the kibble ....they eat it more slowly and I feel it's better for their teeth. I do the kibble with whatever I have on hand to add...veggies,or meat, cottage cheese, an egg, etc....not all at one time !! I always add moisture ( quite a bit )....whether water or leftover water from steaming veggies , pastas, etc. When I had 4 Goldens and was feeding 3 kids, my " slop" jar was well filled !! Dogs loved it ! Actually, the food bowl is more like a soup...I just cover the kibble etc. It was amazing that my Bushwacker would leave all the peas !!! How he separated them I don't know. We got such a kick out of it we even counted how many were in his bowl...all would be left, but bowl licked clean.
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