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As long as i could change my training technique slightly and have the dog focus a lot, it is still capable or anything.
This really isn't correct, especially when talking about a herding breed. A deaf dog may be able to do some up close fetching work, but they are not going to be able to work at really long distances, drive, etc without the ability to hear the commands from the handler. Asking the dog to constantly look at you for visual cues, when you may be behind the dog, or 1/2 a mile away (or more) isn't going to work very well.

You could probably get creative and do something like multiple electric collars on the dog, and vibration on one side means go one way, vibration on another means go another way, etc but now you are depending on at least 3 collars, batteries not wearing out, the collar not slipping and changing position on the neck, etc.

For agility, flyball, obed, etc the dog would be fine. Even entry level herding trials the dog could probably pass. But it wouldn't be suitable for what it was (or should be) bred for, real life herding.
 
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Has anyone thought about what happens to any solid colored pups that are unfortunate enough to be born at Toolalla? Steer clear of Tjukurpa too. Their 'foundation' dogs came from pounds and rescues. Find an internet wayback machine. The owner of Tjukurpa admits it herself. The coolie is a wonderful breed just do your research. There are good coolies around.
 
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Breeders kill puppies? And they admit it????:yikes: I am totally astonished. Killing a puppy is ..... I am speechless. I didn't know this went on. That should be against the law. Isn't it against the law? How do they kill them? It says they destroy them. Sounds like they totally demolish the puppies.
 
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Breeders kill puppies? And they admit it????:yikes: I am totally astonished. Killing a puppy is ..... I am speechless. I didn't know this went on. That should be against the law. Isn't it against the law? How do they kill them? It says they destroy them. Sounds like they totally demolish the puppies.
I agree, this is horrible :(

If I was a breeder of a breed with merles and a double merle puppy apears in one of my litters, i would spay it and it will be for pet only.

That's why some breeder recomed to breed merles with solids only.

That "destroy" part sound like they burn them alive or put a bomb to kill them.
 

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That's why some breeder recomed to breed merles with solids only.
That is why any responsible breeder would only breed merles to solids. There is absolutely no excuse to breed merle-to-merle in breeds where the problems can occur.

Someone else made the point earlier; many of the merle breeds are working dogs; why in god's name does the color matter? A black Aussie that can work is more worthy of being bred than a merle who can't.
 

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That is why any responsible breeder would only breed merles to solids. There is absolutely no excuse to breed merle-to-merle in breeds where the problems can occur.

Someone else made the point earlier; many of the merle breeds are working dogs; why in god's name does the color matter? A black Aussie that can work is more worthy of being bred than a merle who can't.
Exactly. Even in show dogs, most breeders aren't so into the flashy markings that they would risk a merle x merle breeding. Well, any of the breeders I would consider responsible. I do know it happens often in dachshunds. (Double dapples)

I met the coolest Aussie rescue at Petco last year. He was a double merle who was deaf and born without eyes. Then he was dumped in a ditch to die because he was deformed. The really sad part is, that could have totally been prevented had the breeder not bred two merles together. It's completely preventable and a well known risk, so I don't see the point. A nice double merle is beautiful and a very flashy looking dog, but once again, why risk it? Is it so much better that it's worth the pups that have to suffer or be put out of their misery?

I understand in some cases it's hard to tell with cryptics and some sable merles. But if the dogs are known merles (and this is why it's extremely important to be aware of merling at birth- I know of sable merles that look sable as adults) then it should be avoidable.

The little Aussie looked a lot like this (though this is a sheltie): http://www3.telus.net/marpointe/seeker4doublesablemerle.jpg
 

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on another forum i'm a member of I bought the subject of merle to merlse breeding. Got some great links. like http://www.lethalwhites.com
a great coolie breeder is also a member of that forums so looks like I've found my breeder.
The BEST thing that I got fromt hat thread was a heap of links and contacts to people associated with coolie rescue. So a rescue pup I'm guessing it will be :)

There is a GORGEOUS pup in rescue at the moment, 9 wks old, female, mostly white with some red merle patches, deaf but perfect coolie. I want :( lol if only she came along next year
 

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