Calling all animal behaviorists...

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OK, here's the story. There are four roommates leasing a house together. Two of them have one dog each. One of the dog owners also has a cat. So a couple of days ago one of the roomies is outside the house and she hears the cat yowling angrily and realizes it's been accidentally locked in one of the bedrooms. She enters the house and lets the cat out. That particular day only her dog and the cat are in the house (the other dog who is away belongs to the cat owner). Later in the day the roomie whose bedroom the cat had been locked in comes home. Unbeknownst to her one of the animals, either the dog or the cat, had defecated right in the middle of her bed, and it was runny. She laid right down on top of it. She was extremely upset. She determined that the only dog in the house that day must have done it. She angrily confronted the roomie who owned the dog. The dog owner made numerous arguments implicating the cat, namely that it had been accidentally locked in her room for an unknown period of time. Another argument is that her bed is fairly high and the dog would have had a hard time jumping up there. And yet another argument is that the dog had already done her business outside, wasn't suffering from runny stool and had never been guilty of defecating on furniture before - but then neither had the cat. The offended roomie was so very (understandably) upset by having laid down in runny poop and having her nice bedspread ruined that she was pretty freakin pissed and wasn't backing off her initial inclination to blame the dog. These two roomies have been together for a long time and have always gotten along well. This situation is really straining their friendship - ugly fight ensued and offended roomie retaliated by putting the poop on a napkin and hiding it under the dog owner's dresser. In my mind it seems pretty clear which animal is most likely the guilty party, but I'm trying to remain unbiased. For those of you out there who are animal behaviorists, please weigh in with your opinion and tell us why you believe it was either the dog or the cat. Hopefully someone will see the light and this good friendship can get back on track.
 

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Get over it and clean up the poop:p




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No way we could know. you'd have to see the poop-I don't really see what the difference would be anyway.

Sounds like these roomies are still in high school. Tell the to wash the blankets and grow up. Someone put poo in my room on purpose they'd be paying the rent alone.
 

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I think it's immature to fight over that. An animal, not a person, pooped on a bed, what is there to fight about? Sh!t happens, clean it up, and unless it happens again i don't think there is anything to worry about. Anyway if it was kitty, which seems likely, then there should really be no blame, he can only hold it so long, he was locked in and had to go.
 
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Get over it and clean up the poop:p
Sounds like these roomies are still in high school. Tell the to wash the blankets and grow up. Someone put poo in my room on purpose they'd be paying the rent alone.
^^^ Agreed, on both points above.

But if they still insist on consulting an animal behaviorist to settle their childish argument ... well heck, why stop there? Why not have the original poo analyzed by an independent lab to determine whether or not it came from a dog or a cat? :rolleyes: <--- squared!!

Sh!t happens, clean it up
:rofl1: Good point!!
 

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If they are playing "hide the poo" there is no getting the friendship back on track. As to what animal did it? Doesn't matter. Knowing is not going to change the sheets or erase that someone laid in it.
 

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CSI = Cat Sh1t Investigation?

(Now all I can think of is that Furries episode :rofl1: )

Oh, and my money's on the cat. You lock the cat in the room, you get catshit in the bed. Not an uncommon occurrence. ;)
Not a behaviorist by any means, but what Renee says is right on. Cats like to bury their poo and sheets/bedding/fabric is the emergency alternative of choice. Besides, it usually takes a day or so for a dog to get over runny poo. If the door was closed with the cat inside how on earth would the dog have gotten in there to poop anyway?
 

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I am stunned by how rude you people are. I have to believe that you aren't representative of everyone on this board - I hope not. The girl in the story who's taking the heat for something her dog didn't do is my daughter. Her roommate wants restitution for the bedding and I'm certain that the person she needs to be going after is the girl who owns the cat (the sloppiest, most irresponsible person in the house). I'm helping my daughter thru college and am paying her rent and utilities. She and her three roommates are two months into a one year lease (which I signed and am legally liable for). I'm very concerned that this situation is going to create an irreparable rift that's either going to compel someone to move out or make the emotional environment unfriendly. I was hoping that some of the people on this board have been exposed to cats enough to know, as I do, that pooping on the bed cuz it's pissed it was locked in a room is exactly the way a cat would act. It's not the way a dog would act. I thought the people on this board could offer some insightful, intelligent comments about dog vs. cat behavior that would help the roomies recognize that the poor dog probably didn't do this. My daughter's feeling so badly about the anger she's encountering and she's frustrated cuz she knows her dog didn't do it. The girl who owns the cat is more than happy to let my daughter take the heat. I'm so disappointed that so many of you felt compelled to ridicule and make fun of someone coming on your board looking for some expertise and insight. I know this, if that's the way you treat the real people in your lives, you're not very successful on any level. Good luck.
 

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Kellster, nobody is really trying to be rude. Understand that for most of us on this board, we have had animals a long time and poop really isn't a big deal for us. We just clean it up and move on with our lives.

NO animal poops somewhere because its "pissed" at you. Animals do not think that way. The cat likely pooped on the bed because it was locked in the room without a litter box, and no other reason. A animal can't hold it forever any more than a person could. My cat got locked in my room once where there is no litter box, and she pooped on a pillow that I had on the floor.

I don't know if I would even WANT to live with someone who would freak out that much over one pile of poop. What if the dog got sick and had diarrhea in the house, would she freak out that much? I highly doubt the bedspread is ruined unless it is made of satin or something (and even then it could probably be dry-cleaned).
 

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As the responcible adult in this situation you need to stand up and tell them to get over it.

Really-it is not more complicated than that.

Make it seem like some drama filled thing that could ruin lives and it will be.

Bottom line is its crap. clean it up and move on. Don't let them act like something terrible happened. they are close to adults and when living on your own things much worse than this come up.
 

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Sweet, thank you for your more civil response. I don't agree with you, however, that cat's don't "revenge poop". I have a friend that has managed a large animal hospital for years. Her daughter is a veterinarian and they breed champion Newfoundlands. I spoke with her today and she told me that cats absolutely do "revenge poop". She said it's common for a cat to poop in the middle of the bed when they're upset. I suppose it could be said that no one really knows if it's anger that motivates them, but they do it when they're upset - whether that means stress, anger, fear, whatever. I don't know, but according to my friend the behavior involves more than just looking for an alternate kitty litter box. Anyway, thank you again for contributing to the thread without being condescending.
 

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so a stressed out scared cat that craps on a bed is "revenge pooping?" :rofl1:

They probably crap on beds because they can half bury it in the blankets unlike they would be able to on the floor...


man remind me not to **** my cats off...

Sorry thats just you rationalizing... plain and simple. Its not a human its a cat.


ETA: you can't say that??? OH MY!
 

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In my opinion, it shouldn't matter what animal made the mess.

I'm blaming the roommate whose bed it was. If you live in a house with animals, they make messes. They vomit. They poop. They pee. Things come up where you can't always get home in time to let them out. They get sicks and can't hold it. They get excited and can't hold it. They shed. They chew things. They have nails. They rip things. They cut themselves on sticks outside and bleed all over your house.

If you're living in a house with animals, and you don't want a mess in your bedroom, CLOSE THE DOOR when you're not home to watch them.

That roommate should not be living in a house with friends/roommates who have animals.
 

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I am stunned by how rude you people are. I have to believe that you aren't representative of everyone on this board - I hope not. ......... I know this, if that's the way you treat the real people in your lives, you're not very successful on any level. Good luck.
No, we're a small minority - it would be a very long thread if everyone weighed in.

Honestly, I don't know what to say. If it wasn't for the fact that I read your posts and know who you are, I would have thought this was trolling or a bad joke. If one of my friends in real life told me a story of how her roommate locked a cat and a dog in her room and then sat in the poop she found on her bed.. and then hid poop around my friend's room to get 'revenge' - I would laugh my ass off. The entire story is so ludicrously absurd, and the roommates behavior is unbelievably immature. It really does sound like a joke missing the punch line, not the behavior of two mature adults.
 

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Milo's Mommy, I agree with you. You're absolutely right. Why this girl, who I've always known to be very responsible, reasonable and nice, is really overreating. I don't blame her for demanding that the pet owner buy her a new comforter. Pets might poop and have accidents, but if it's your pet you need to take responsibility for the damage they cause. But I'm certain that it wasn't my daughter's dog. It's seems quite obvious to me that the locked-in-the-room cat did this. I've been very good to these girls. I furnished their home to the tune of about $10,000 and everytime I come out to visit I buy things for the house and do many thoughtful things for all of them. It's a matter of principle that I don't now fork over a couple hundred dollars for something I know my daughter's dog didn't do. Criosphynx, I don't claim to be an animal behaviorist. My friend didn't use the term "revenge poop". She did however say that cats when upset commonly poop on beds and chairs. She hears it all the time at the animal hospital. She has very extensive experience with animals and if she tells me cats go out of their way to poop on beds when they're upset, I believe her. And BTW, putting a little ROFL icon next to a response to something I said is the very definition of condenscending ridicule. Really uncool.
 

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I've been very good to these girls. I furnished their home to the tune of about $10,000 and everytime I come out to visit I buy things for the house and do many thoughtful things for all of them.
Just curious.... but, why?

When I went to college, I lived in a dorm for 3 1/2 out of 4 years (then I moved into an apartment). My parents paid $650 per semester for my meal ticket, the rest of the bill was up to me. They didn't have the money to spend on my college education, and even if they did I'm very grateful that they "made" me pay for it myself. I got a scholarship, and I got jobs, and I still came out with a 3.6 GPA. If I wanted to furnish my apartment, it was my responsibility. If I had a dog, that was my responsibility, along with everything that included. I was an adult, and appreciated being treated as an adult.
 

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both dogs and cats may eliminate in the house when under stress, it is not revenge however, just stress/anxiety. Cats tend to do it more because they are generally less adaptable than dogs so change stresses them more. People sometimes get the runs when they have anxiety too. but whether or not the cat pooped out of stress or just not being able to hold it, nobody knows especially since we don't know how long he/she were in there. Just to clear things up, nobody is making fun of or laughing at your daughter, we are more laughing at the girl who laid in poop because she is way overreacting and the general explosion causes over some poop. I clean up poop all the time, I've stepped in poop in bare feet on several occasions, I stepped on a dead mouse my cat brought to me in the night (the scary thing is my cat does not go outside), so if I laid in poop I'd yell and go ew!!!! then get up, take a shower clean up poo and wash my comforter *shrugs*.

I was unaware that you were trying to figure out who had to pay for the bed spread. Behavior however has little to do with it. If the poop was buried under the blankets then I guess that would be very cat behavior but if not then you can't prove anything. I would refuse to pay, calmly, simply say you will not pay for something your pet did not do.
Did the roommate even try to clean the bed spread?
 

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