http://www.mixedbreedpups.com/faq/general/
Here is the link for the sick yorkie maltese puppy that I was asking about in the other thread.
Here is the link for the sick yorkie maltese puppy that I was asking about in the other thread.
buying sick puppy-LINK to kennel
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Now if they added something about only breeding two to three litters out of eac bitch and then spaying, this wouldn't sound so bad. As it stands, I can guarantee you they breed this poor girl until she drops and they make you think it's for her "health".
This is a PUPPYMILL extraordinaire and most definietly NOT something you want to throw your hard-earned money away on!!!
Now if they added something about only breeding two to three litters out of eac bitch and then spaying, this wouldn't sound so bad. As it stands, I can guarantee you they breed this poor girl until she drops and they make you think it's for her "health".
This is a PUPPYMILL extraordinaire and most definietly NOT something you want to throw your hard-earned money away on!!!
"QUESTION: Are the pups raised in the house?
ANSWER: No. Frankly, no-one could have litters of puppies like this in a clean, healthy, environment in the house. And, we have a small grooming shop and boarding kennel, so we're at work in our kennel anyway. Mike and Lucy generally begin their day with the puppies at about 6 am, and finish up about 5 pm, with a final walk for the dogs at about 9 pm. The kids, Elizabeth (12), Charles (5), Rachel (3), and Eleanor (2) love to play with the pups. The babysitter has a scheduled time to bring the three little ones out the "shop" to play with puppies every day. "
"None of them consider the happiness and comfort of the dogs in the kennel."
At least they admitt it
heres a good one too
"QUESTION: Why don't we post pictures of all the adults (especially the mother)?
ANSWER: We of course, like to make sure that the pictures that we post on the site represent the dogs fairly. Many dogs are just not that comfortable about getting their picture taken! Grooming, bathing, and vaccinations are given in the grooming shop, the same room we use to take the adult photos. Some of the dogs are just not that happy standing on a grooming table, with a strange, noisy, object shoved in front of their face (the camera, click, buzz, whir ;-) ) How many of you like your photo taken? How can we make a dog "smile" that is not happy on the table?"
I actually just starting hearing the breeding every heat thing. Apparently its being preached everywere adn according to some vets who specialize in breeding it is true. But it deosn't mean start popping out early adn go late. It means wait till the dog is older and don't breed the hell out of it. I guess the view is the uterus reacts badly from the time in between the prgnancies
ANSWER: No. Frankly, no-one could have litters of puppies like this in a clean, healthy, environment in the house. And, we have a small grooming shop and boarding kennel, so we're at work in our kennel anyway. Mike and Lucy generally begin their day with the puppies at about 6 am, and finish up about 5 pm, with a final walk for the dogs at about 9 pm. The kids, Elizabeth (12), Charles (5), Rachel (3), and Eleanor (2) love to play with the pups. The babysitter has a scheduled time to bring the three little ones out the "shop" to play with puppies every day. "
"None of them consider the happiness and comfort of the dogs in the kennel."
At least they admitt it
heres a good one too
"QUESTION: Why don't we post pictures of all the adults (especially the mother)?
ANSWER: We of course, like to make sure that the pictures that we post on the site represent the dogs fairly. Many dogs are just not that comfortable about getting their picture taken! Grooming, bathing, and vaccinations are given in the grooming shop, the same room we use to take the adult photos. Some of the dogs are just not that happy standing on a grooming table, with a strange, noisy, object shoved in front of their face (the camera, click, buzz, whir ;-) ) How many of you like your photo taken? How can we make a dog "smile" that is not happy on the table?"
I actually just starting hearing the breeding every heat thing. Apparently its being preached everywere adn according to some vets who specialize in breeding it is true. But it deosn't mean start popping out early adn go late. It means wait till the dog is older and don't breed the hell out of it. I guess the view is the uterus reacts badly from the time in between the prgnancies
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First clue, they breed 21 breeds & mixed breeds. It's a puppy mill. Run, Run, Run!!
Puppy mill dogs are notoriously known to be sick. Look at the post by Charlie's mom, she rescued a puppy mill GSD and is having terrible problems with him.
Even scarier:
QUESTION: Can we visit and see the pups?
ANSWER: We used to answer this with a resounding YES! However, we recently had an experience with a pup that became sick shortly after going to her new home. The pup recovered nicely, but the only way this pup could have been exposed to this virus was through casual contact with visitors, as we have NEVER dealt with this virus before. No, you don't need to worry about getting a pup from us, but we really do need to safeguard the health of our puppies, for the puppies' sake, our sake, and the buyer's sake. Unfortunately, even the most diligent, clean, well-meaning visitors can bring a disease to our kennel that can spell disaster for our puppies. Think of it this way - hospitals don't allow visitors into the nursery area. Baby and Puppy immune systems are not fully functional for months.
If they dont want you visiting their place, I cant imagine what a horrible dump it must be. They can use every excuse in the world but obviously the pups are still getting sick so that is not the reason they wont allow people to go to their place to get a dog.
This place is horrible..
Puppy mill dogs are notoriously known to be sick. Look at the post by Charlie's mom, she rescued a puppy mill GSD and is having terrible problems with him.
Even scarier:
QUESTION: Can we visit and see the pups?
ANSWER: We used to answer this with a resounding YES! However, we recently had an experience with a pup that became sick shortly after going to her new home. The pup recovered nicely, but the only way this pup could have been exposed to this virus was through casual contact with visitors, as we have NEVER dealt with this virus before. No, you don't need to worry about getting a pup from us, but we really do need to safeguard the health of our puppies, for the puppies' sake, our sake, and the buyer's sake. Unfortunately, even the most diligent, clean, well-meaning visitors can bring a disease to our kennel that can spell disaster for our puppies. Think of it this way - hospitals don't allow visitors into the nursery area. Baby and Puppy immune systems are not fully functional for months.
If they dont want you visiting their place, I cant imagine what a horrible dump it must be. They can use every excuse in the world but obviously the pups are still getting sick so that is not the reason they wont allow people to go to their place to get a dog.
This place is horrible..
So 3 dogs live in a maximum of 6 ft. by 12 ft. I'd say that's "okay" as long as the dogs are allowed to RUN in a large yard at least once a day, but I'm thinking that doesn't happen.
I just loved their explanation for why they don't have pics of their adult dogs:
That's just a big bunch of excuses. They're somehow able to have pics of all the puppies on their site. Lots of other breeders have pics of their adult females, even with them blowing coat.
I just loved their explanation for why they don't have pics of their adult dogs:
QUESTION: Why don't we post pictures of all the adults (especially the mother)?
ANSWER: We of course, like to make sure that the pictures that we post on the site represent the dogs fairly. Many dogs are just not that comfortable about getting their picture taken! Grooming, bathing, and vaccinations are given in the grooming shop, the same room we use to take the adult photos. Some of the dogs are just not that happy standing on a grooming table, with a strange, noisy, object shoved in front of their face (the camera, click, buzz, whir ;-) ) How many of you like your photo taken? How can we make a dog "smile" that is not happy on the table? I'm too old (I know I'm only 42, but my legs are 84!), with 4 knee surgeries, and just can't get down on the ground or back up again to take pictures from the dog's level. Often, we have photos of these adults - while they're not suitable for public viewing on the website, we can e-mail them to you privately. Taking dog photos is very hard. The person holding the camera can't just reach out and adjust the dog. The person holding the pup can't see what the camera sees. AARRGGHH! Maybe it wouldn't be so hard if we weren't so picky The other reason that it's tough to get good, representative adult photos, is that once the ladies start to cycle, their coat goes through changes every cycle, and every pregnancy. Just about the time the coat is nearly nice enough to photograph, she's back into "season" and blowing her coat again.
ANSWER: We of course, like to make sure that the pictures that we post on the site represent the dogs fairly. Many dogs are just not that comfortable about getting their picture taken! Grooming, bathing, and vaccinations are given in the grooming shop, the same room we use to take the adult photos. Some of the dogs are just not that happy standing on a grooming table, with a strange, noisy, object shoved in front of their face (the camera, click, buzz, whir ;-) ) How many of you like your photo taken? How can we make a dog "smile" that is not happy on the table? I'm too old (I know I'm only 42, but my legs are 84!), with 4 knee surgeries, and just can't get down on the ground or back up again to take pictures from the dog's level. Often, we have photos of these adults - while they're not suitable for public viewing on the website, we can e-mail them to you privately. Taking dog photos is very hard. The person holding the camera can't just reach out and adjust the dog. The person holding the pup can't see what the camera sees. AARRGGHH! Maybe it wouldn't be so hard if we weren't so picky
The other reason that it's tough to get good, representative adult photos, is that once the ladies start to cycle, their coat goes through changes every cycle, and every pregnancy. Just about the time the coat is nearly nice enough to photograph, she's back into "season" and blowing her coat again.
Lots of other breeders have pics of their adult females, even with them blowing coat.
I totally agree. They also mention that the adults are clipped every 12 weeks... I didn't read anything about ANY brushing in between. My guess is the coats grow and get matted for 3 months and then get shaved down.
Everything I've read tells me that they have an excuse for everything. The bottom line is that they're breeding for profit and their priority is keeping the dogs as cash cows. They have to keep the dogs in a certain condition to comply with AKC standards and they have to say certain things to keep customers buying from them.
Everything I've read tells me that they have an excuse for everything. The bottom line is that they're breeding for profit and their priority is keeping the dogs as cash cows. They have to keep the dogs in a certain condition to comply with AKC standards and they have to say certain things to keep customers buying from them.
The reputable breeders I know may, other than a spouse, have one assistant to help pick-up poop, feed, groom, and walk the dogs but if they didn't have an assistant, it wouldn't be a big deal.
These folks have 88 puppies for sale at one time! A reputable breeder might have 88 puppies during the breeder's entire lifetime. There is no way these dogs have the care and the socialization necessary to make a happy and healthy puppy. Sure you might be lucky and get a wonderful, happy, healthy, puppy but you'll be paying way too much and the puppy won't be selected to fit your lifestyle. Reputable breeders do Puppy Aptitude Testing (PAT) testing to find the right dog for the right person and usually won't release a dog until, at a minimum, 8 weeks. Many wait longer.
Ask yourself. Could you give enough love and attention, handling, and socialization to 88 puppies at one time? Even with 3 people working the kennels around the clock, that's 29 puppies per person. I'm talking real workers, not animal or child or relatives on the couch.
If you want a Maltese-Yorkie cross then great. No reason a mixed breed can't be a delightful, loving companion dog. I have no objections. That isn't the issue here. The issue I have is that dogs that come from places like these are usually taken from their mothers too young, have less than ideal veterinary care, and are poorly socialized. The dam and sire are usually chosen for small size rather than good temperament and you're supporting a kennel that appears to breed its bitches to death.
You'll hear so many people on this board advocate getting a purebred dog because it's easier to predict their temperament and when you stick to one or two breeds you come to know the dogs inside and out. You learn which dogs are suitable for which home and it's much easier to predict possible health issues. This is good for you and your vet too. Mixed breed dogs are much more of a gamble. That's the primary reason. It's not snob appeal, it's making sure you get the most dog for your investment. The last thing you want is an adorable puppy who turns out to have the personality of a monster, has been poorly socialized, and may have health issues you won't know about until after the warranty has expired. Far too many of these mixes end-up in shelters because their owners got a dog that never quite adjusted to home living. It's most essential for young puppies to be handled daily soon after their birth, for their dam to be a full family member, and for them to live in the home. There is no way this breeder's house has 88 puppies that age running around the living room or kitchen.
I would suggest, and I mean this with every consideration for your future happiness with a new puppy, to investigate a breeder recommended to you from the AKC breed club for Yorkies or Maltese. You may have to wait for a puppy, but if you do, it means your puppy will be healthy, well-socialized, and the right temperament for your home. Your pup will be registered, will have a pedigreed health history, and your pup's vets will know what issues to look for in each stage of the dog's life. Your breeder will be a phone call away and be eager to hear about their dog, be willing to help you with problems, and be willing to take the puppy back should you be unwilling or unable to care for it in the future. No dog pound for your pup, just good, loving, homes.
Their faces are cute but it's like anything else you buy. You don't want to fall for fancy advertising when the product isn't what it seems to be. Please wait, do some research on reputable breeders, and then consider your next move carefully. A few months of patience and research can mean years upon years of happy dog ownership.
These folks have 88 puppies for sale at one time! A reputable breeder might have 88 puppies during the breeder's entire lifetime. There is no way these dogs have the care and the socialization necessary to make a happy and healthy puppy. Sure you might be lucky and get a wonderful, happy, healthy, puppy but you'll be paying way too much and the puppy won't be selected to fit your lifestyle. Reputable breeders do Puppy Aptitude Testing (PAT) testing to find the right dog for the right person and usually won't release a dog until, at a minimum, 8 weeks. Many wait longer.
Ask yourself. Could you give enough love and attention, handling, and socialization to 88 puppies at one time? Even with 3 people working the kennels around the clock, that's 29 puppies per person. I'm talking real workers, not animal or child or relatives on the couch.
If you want a Maltese-Yorkie cross then great. No reason a mixed breed can't be a delightful, loving companion dog. I have no objections. That isn't the issue here. The issue I have is that dogs that come from places like these are usually taken from their mothers too young, have less than ideal veterinary care, and are poorly socialized. The dam and sire are usually chosen for small size rather than good temperament and you're supporting a kennel that appears to breed its bitches to death.
You'll hear so many people on this board advocate getting a purebred dog because it's easier to predict their temperament and when you stick to one or two breeds you come to know the dogs inside and out. You learn which dogs are suitable for which home and it's much easier to predict possible health issues. This is good for you and your vet too. Mixed breed dogs are much more of a gamble. That's the primary reason. It's not snob appeal, it's making sure you get the most dog for your investment. The last thing you want is an adorable puppy who turns out to have the personality of a monster, has been poorly socialized, and may have health issues you won't know about until after the warranty has expired. Far too many of these mixes end-up in shelters because their owners got a dog that never quite adjusted to home living. It's most essential for young puppies to be handled daily soon after their birth, for their dam to be a full family member, and for them to live in the home. There is no way this breeder's house has 88 puppies that age running around the living room or kitchen.
I would suggest, and I mean this with every consideration for your future happiness with a new puppy, to investigate a breeder recommended to you from the AKC breed club for Yorkies or Maltese. You may have to wait for a puppy, but if you do, it means your puppy will be healthy, well-socialized, and the right temperament for your home. Your pup will be registered, will have a pedigreed health history, and your pup's vets will know what issues to look for in each stage of the dog's life. Your breeder will be a phone call away and be eager to hear about their dog, be willing to help you with problems, and be willing to take the puppy back should you be unwilling or unable to care for it in the future. No dog pound for your pup, just good, loving, homes.
Their faces are cute but it's like anything else you buy. You don't want to fall for fancy advertising when the product isn't what it seems to be. Please wait, do some research on reputable breeders, and then consider your next move carefully. A few months of patience and research can mean years upon years of happy dog ownership.