Bull Mastiffs

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Anyone who's owned a bull mastiff, I've got a couple of questions:

I hear from websites that they're hard to train, true?

Good guard dogs?

Are they slobberers? It's alright if they do, I'm just wondering.

It's one of the dogs I've considered getting in the future...
 
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Bulls are stubborn, lol! They are slobberers, not the champions the English Mastiffs are, but pretty impressive droolers. They are good guardians. One of their historical jobs was catching poachers. A good Bull Mastiff should be intelligent, calm and somewhat reserved.

To be fair, part of the reason they seem to be stubborn is that they are dogs capable of processing information and making decisions on their own and don't necessarily look to their owners to tell them what to do in every instance.
 
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Charley's had a couple in the past and I've been around a few of them. They're more affable and easier than the Filas, but less so than the English Mastiff.

The dogs you see in the Toyota truck commercial are English Mastiffs.
 

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I own two Bullmastiff both differant in they own way..

Gypsy my girlie is very headstrong and stubborn She is our Protector by her own choose i may add.but is very loving to all who she knows and loves

where my boy Joe is very lied back and does everything you ask him to do a oure gem.We were thinking of training him up to be a Patdog (where he would visit hospitals and old people for them to meet him ) as he is so lead back

Are they slobberers? I have to say NO to this my two only Slobber when had a drink or after food :D

If you would like to know more Please feel free to ask
Tracie xxx
 
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A lot of the slobbering has to do with the climate - they drool substantially more if it's hot - and I'm beginning to wonder if diet doesn't have something to do with it as well. The grrrrls tend to drool more in the summer, but not nearly as much as we were warned to expect and the biggest difference is their diet.

And of course, if they are waiting for something they particularly like you'll find a puddle forming on the floor, lol!

I've seen a few Bull Mastiffs who were therapy dogs, Cleo. They do very well (depending, of course on the individual dog's personality). There is something about the benign, dignified Giant that touches so many people.
 

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One of my best friends shows and breeds Bullmastiffs. They are not a breed for inexperienced dog owners as they can be somewhat stubborn and headstrong. She actually shows hers in AKC conformation and in agility trials...yes, they do agility :D They are good guardians, but generally calm and loving and good with family. I have known 3 bullmastiffs very, very well and they have all been awesome dogs, but they have also been trained and socialized extremely well which makes a difference. We live in a somewhat cool climate and one of her bullies drools a ton while the other two are not droolers. Generally speaking, the males, especially if left intact can become male dominant and or aggressive towards other males. I like bullmastiffs a lot and love their low energy level, but that's just me, I love lazy dogs that like to cuddle :)
 

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Yeah, one of the things that I liked so much about them is they have low-energy and are big! And another great plus is that they're great guard dogs...

Most big dogs like Shepherds have a lot of energy... I can handle it to an extent...

I hear that statement so much, "those aren't for novice owners, those aren't for novice owners, those aren't for novice owners."

I heard it so much that when I looked for a breed to get, I just disregarded the statement.

This is a real question: exactly what breed of dog IS for novice owners?
 

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Oh, I can name a few that would work well with novice owners....golden, lab, pug...the list goes on.

If someone has never owned a dog before than I don't think a Bullmastiff would be the right choice. They have a powerful build and a head-strong way about them. I think they are great, but not for someone who knows nothing about proper handling and socializing. They need a confident and firm leader who knows what they are doing, especially during the puppy stage.

When they are handled properly they make wonderful family dogs and guardians. This is a breed I am very fond of. :)
 

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Poodles...boxers...corgis...german shorthairs...shi tzus....practically any breed that is generally easy to train and even tempered. I am not saying that a Bullmastiff does not have these qualities, but it would be naive to think that they don't need a knowledgeable owner. I would not be saying this if I was not familiar with the breed, but I am. I have learned so much since I got my first dog and even I admit that I would not be skilled enough to take on a Bullmastiff, Fila, German Shepherd or Neo back then. I think people need to grow and learn with their dogs. I don't think their is anything wrong with the saying "not for novice owners." I think in many situations it is true and I am sure it does not apply to everyone, but as a general statement I don't see what is wrong with it. If someone has never had a dog before in their lifetime, do you really think they should start out with a challengeing breed...or a 170 lb great dane that has all the requirements of an average dog multiplied by 100!!!
 

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Poodles...boxers...corgis...german shorthairs...shi tzus....practically any breed that is generally easy to train and even tempered. I am not saying that a Bullmastiff does not have these qualities, but it would be naive to think that they don't need a knowledgeable owner. I would not be saying this if I was not familiar with the breed, but I am. I have learned so much since I got my first dog and even I admit that I would not be skilled enough to take on a Bullmastiff, Fila, German Shepherd or Neo back then. I think people need to grow and learn with their dogs. I don't think their is anything wrong with the saying "not for novice owners." I think in many situations it is true and I am sure it does not apply to everyone, but as a general statement I don't see what is wrong with it. If someone has never had a dog before in their lifetime, do you really think they should start out with a challengeing breed...or a 170 lb great dane that has all the requirements of an average dog multiplied by 100!!!
Well, sure.

But it gets annoying seeing that everywhere... I saw it so much on breeds I'd been looking for like German Shepherds.

Soon I just disregarded it... which I'm sure a lot of people do when seeing it on every breed except the small toy breeds that some people don't want...

BTW, my first dog is a German Shepherd... and everything's worked out extremely well... sure it was hard at times but I'm sure it would be like that with any PUPPY...
 

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Like I said, it does not apply to everyone. ;)

I am sure you are little more deticated to your dog than most novice owners are, and it seems you are more open to learning. We have to realize, that not all new dog owners view dogs the way we do, and I think that this statement is aimed more towards those who are expecting a "walk in the park." Personally, I don't think people should get dogs if they want things to be easy. ;)
 
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If someone wants to eventually own more intense dogs, the Terriers are a great way to start. They're giant guardians in a compact body, lol! Every bit as headstrong and stubborn as any of the molossers, and great to train owners, lol!

Showpugs is right. There are novice owners, and then there are NOVICE owners, lol! Some people may own dogs for forty years and still never be ready to own a Bull Mastiff, or Dobie or GSD, while others have the dedication and strength of will and mind to jump right in and start out with a German Shepherd - or a Giant Schnauzer!
 

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Renee750il said:
Showpugs is right. There are novice owners, and then there are NOVICE owners, lol! Some people may own dogs for forty years and still never be ready to own a Bull Mastiff, or Dobie or GSD, while others have the dedication and strength of will and mind to jump right in and start out with a German Shepherd - or a Giant Schnauzer!
Thats so true :D
 

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If someone wants to eventually own more intense dogs, the Terriers are a great way to start. They're giant guardians in a compact body, lol! Every bit as headstrong and stubborn as any of the molossers, and great to train owners, lol!
Can't agree with you more Renee. CJ is the smallest one in the family and the one people watch out for. When it comes to protecting her home, she's #1. She might be little, but she packs a punch.
 

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