Breeding chihuahuas

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xxxpoo said:
.... those under 4-5 pounds shouldn't be bred at all
I disagree. The breed standard states that 6lbs is the maximum weight for a Chihuahua, it is very common to breed 2-3lb Chis. It's a major BYB thing to breed massive (for the breed, anyway. . . ) bitches to miniscule studs. The vet tech I know who is a breeder has a UKC ch. (I think he's AKC major pointed) stud who is just a bit over 2lbs, and all of her bitches are under 5lbs. She has never lost a bitch in, I believe, 15 years of breeding.
 
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I'm sorry, I should clarify. It's obvious that you CAN breed those under 4lbs..... my intentions were those under 4lbs shouldn't be bred by anybody other than the expert breeders out there. I read a study somewhere (I'll find a link) that the fatalaty or serious health issues rose nearly 78% for those under 4lbs.
 

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Bah I can't see the pictures :(

I agree with everyone. There's something else to think about though, you say she's never been in contact with other dogs. I think that you should socialize her with other dogs if you are planning on getting another one, or they might never get along. If you wait too long, she may be scared of them or dog aggressive all her life, and you won't be able to get more dogs. Just a thought.
 
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Obviously in America you have seen first hand the problems with breeding chis, in england we do not have this important info so readily available.

Anyway I only considered breeding miami NEVER to sell any pups she had but to give to my sisters and keep one, now for sure they can wait and find one like i did and i will start looking for a companion for Miami!!! OMG we would be heartbroken if ANYTHING happened to her, she is so adorable!!!

(this is probably the diffenence between myself and others you have spoken to its a different situation if you want to breed for money!, people like that will always put monetary gains before their pets welfare!, which is disgusting!)

Also there's no way she could go to show anyway, she's my pet and has no discipline! She is totally spoiled! plus i have no interest in showing dogs.

She can just have her 'brothers' paris and monaco as company for now!!!(they're cats)

All of your dogs are beautiful!

Anyway to change the subject completely..... do any of you have any info on pet passports, i know they are vailid in england i just don't know the ins and outs.... maybe it's different in the states.
 
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I disagree i am in England, and the info is there, you say you would never sell pups, so what would you do if she had eight?
 
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so what would you do if she had eight?
She would call Guinness Book of World Record. The most recorded to my knowledge is 7 .... I wouldn't bank on it happening with her.
 
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If you're worried about two female chis fighting, and you decide to rescue, you could always foster the dog so you would know ahead of time how it would work, if it could, etc. Good luck.
 
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What would you do!

Gallien Jacks said:
I disagree i am in England, and the info is there, you say you would never sell pups, so what would you do if she had eight?
really everyone is right you don't keep eight puppies you have to sell them:p
 

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Are you sure you want to go through the time/money/worry etc...????? It's a huge undertaking !!!!!!!!!!!!! Been there///done that !
 
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LOL to the above!

And also there is no way that the problems of breeding chihuahuas is 'common' knowledge to the average pet owner in England, My father has bred thorough bred champion greyhounds for many years as a hobby and even he has never heard of any stories at all never mind the terrible things i have recently learned, As he, like the majority of england at present are not familiar with the breed.

Besides had i bred her and had she had eight after i gave one each to both of my sisters and possibly my grandma as a companion as we just lost my grandfather to cancer in sept, i would have no problem keeping the other five either in england or our estate in France, (i need pet passport info!) There would be plenty of room lol! I can assure you it was never a question of money!
To change the subject slightly, as from some of you i can detect tones of righteousness (not the majority)

I don't think there is anything wrong with saying oh i want this dog because shes cute etc as opposed to studying a breed, does anyone think that this is what happens when 99% of the population take their children to pick a puppy?
I believe that as long as any pet is thoroughly loved and provided for by it's owner we live in a democratic state 'pro-choice' people have the right to have which ever dog they want.
I feel terrible for all of the dogs which are abandoned people who do this should never be allowed animals!
Infact both of my cats are rescue cats, believe me there are no chi's at any shelters in England!! Otherwise i may have adopted one too.

I'm hoping also to get a chinese crested powder puff soon as i think they're beautiful, All of my pet's are pampered and doted on!!


Anyway I hope the majority of you understand what i am getting at as i really appreciate you positive advise, And i can catergorically state that thanks to your advise i will not be breeding Miami!!
 
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Well any good breeder would do a lot of reaurche before breeding, on the net in books through other breeders! the facts will not be known untill you ask
 

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thorough bred champion greyhounds
What in the world is that? Do you mean thoroughbred champion greyhounds, which wouldn't make any sense (to me anyway, I only think of the horse), or do you mean that the greyhounds were thoroughly bred, which wouldn't really make any sense either.
 

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I hear ya Shadow Cat. A Thoroughbred is a breed of horse. It doesn't mean pure. It's no different than breed names as Arabian, Quarter Horse, Morgan etc. That word is not synonomous with purebred. So, I assume she means purebred Greyhounds.
 
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Like i say that is my fathers department, I guess pure bred is the term i was looking for, He deals with horses too so I may have been confused, He goes to ireland to stud with champion greyhounds, They are working dogs and they win many trophies etc, I would have thought it was pretty obvious what I meant especially as I do not proclaim to be a breeder i may not have all of the terminology!:eek:

Yes i would also expect a good breeder to be able to RESEARCH correctly!
 

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miss miami...i want to first off thank you on behalf of chihuahua breeders for asking first!
ive been involved in breeding chihuahuas all my life and the first thing i learnt was the possible tragedies...
most breeders agree, any female under 4lbs should NOT be bred, and all females shoudl be bred wiht a male smaller than her...it is amazing to know of all the problems that can occur, and most people whove bred for a long duration have at least one horror story of losing the bitch and puppies during the birthing process (chis are notorious for difficulties during labour) c-sections are common with the breed.

as for worries of having another female, so long as both females are spayed around 6 months old, there shouldnt be any problem, if you decide to go with a male (which make just as wonderfull pets) make sure to get miami spayed and him neutered. having your dog "fixed" prevents so many problems from health to behaviour! and its very safe nowerdays.
if you are still interested in breeding try contacting a chihuahua breeder and actually helping her out with a couple of litters, some breeders will give you a discount on a puppy as thanks for helping with the labour and you will get to learn about the entire process. i suggest at LEAST 2 years of reaserch (with a breeder) before attempgint to breed yourself and your first litter should always be supervised by an experienced person just in case...

oh and as for when, a chihuahua shouldnt be bred before her second heat usually 1 1/2 -2 years old is the earliest a female should be bred...

im so glad your doing your reaserch, that little bit of reasearch could actually save your little babies life!
she is definatly adorable though!
 
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Thank you!! thats no problem, I'm the first to hold my hands up when i've made a complete error!

I'm looking into finding a new friend for miami now! she is such a pleasure i just hope that she takes to her new friend when we find him/her, I don't think there will be any problems as she lives and plays daily with our cats she's even been socialised with dogs now, i was always too scared to introduce her to my fathers friends dogs as actually they are all working gun dogs!! But it has been brilliant she spends hours chasing weiramaners and jack russels around! It's really funny to watch, shes very timid around any 'new' dogs though but shes fantastic with the dogs she recognises!!
 

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