Between the 2, which is the best quality

Red_ACD_for_me

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With Caiza's tummy troubles I picked up a bag of Canidae and a bag of California natural both lamb and rice. I like the Canidae because it has lactobacillus in it and enzymes where as the California natural doesn't. Also, the California natural has more fat and protein in it which I like.The thing with me is that I have never fed Canidae and trust the Natura line products more than anyone since the recalls. What do you think and what would you choose? Help me! I haven't heard back from Mordy yet so I have to feed something until then :)

Canidae
Lamb Meal, Brown Rice, Canola Oil (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Flax Seed, Sun cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Lamb, Lecithin, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory Root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, L-Lysine, Taurine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of Vitamin B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Organic Selenium, Dried Papaya, Dried Pineapple, Vitamin B12 Supplement.
Crude Protein (min.) 21.00%
Crude Fat (min.) 12.50%
Crude Fiber (max.) 4.00%
Moisture (max.) 10.00%
Lenoleic Acid (Omega 6) (min.) 3.55%
Vitamin E (min.) 160.00 IU/kg
Calcium (min.) 1.40%
Phosphorus (min.) 1.00%
Zinc (min.) 260.00 mg/kg
Iron (min.) 300.00 mg/kg
Alpha Linolenic Acid (Omega 3) (min.) .75%
Ascorbic Acid (vitamin C) (min.) 50.00 mg/kg
Lactobacillus Acidophilus (min.) 100 million CFU/lb
Cellulase (a) (min.) 100 CMCU/kg
pH 6.0

California Natural
Moisture 9.5 %
Protein 26.0 %
Fat 16.0 %
Linoleic Acid 5.46 %
Carbohydrates 36.17 %
Fiber 2.5 %
Ash 8.83 %
Calcium 1.25 %
Phosphorous 1.04 %
Magnesium 0.12 %
Sodium 0.47 %
Potassium 0.79 %
Chloride 0.85 %
Iron 785 mg/kg
Zinc 295 mg/kg
Copper 16 mg/kg
Iodine 1.7 mg/kg
Manganese 38 mg/kg
Selenium 0.31 mg/kg
Arginine 2.56 %
Histidine 0.93 %
Isoleucine 1.53 %
Leucine 2.71 %
Lysine 2.14 %
Methionine 0.79 %
Met-Cysteine 1.12 %
Phenylalanine 1.39 %
Phe-Tyrosine 2.52 %
Threonine 1.37 %
Tryptophan 0.44 %
Valine 1.69 %
Taurine 3389 mg/kg
Choline 2851 mg/kg
Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) 10.7 mg/kg
Vitamin B1 (Thiamine) 6.5 mg/kg
Vitamin B3 (Niacin) 75 mg/kg
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) 5.8 mg/kg
Folic Acid 1.76 mg/kg
Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid) 28 mg/kg
Biotin 1.1 mg/kg
Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin) 86 ug/kg
Vitamin A 22388 IU/kg
Vitamin C 300 mg/kg
Vitamin D 1409 IU/kg
Vitamin E 300 IU/kg
Vitamin K 912 ug/kg
ME 4247 kcal/kg
ME 591 kcal/cup

Ingredients
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:yikes: This statement SCARES me!
*Lamb Meal
Lamb meal is the dry rendered (cooked down) product from lamb tissues, exclusive of any added blood, hair, hoof, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents except in such amounts as may occur unavoidably in good processing practices.*


Lamb meal is simply lamb meat with the moisture removed, making it suitable for use in dry food. Before you buy a product containing lamb meal, ask the manufacturer about the origin of the lamb meal they use. Natura uses only high-quality lamb meat, not the lamb by-products found in some other pet foods.

Brown Rice
Sunflower Oil
Sunflower oil is obtained by extracting oil from sunflower seeds.

Sunflower oil has a high concentration of linoleic acid (73%), which is important for good skin and coat health. Natura uses sunflower oil that has been cold-pressed and protected from exposure to heat and light. This very high quality, very palatable fat is used in California Natural and Innova formulations.

Rice
Rice, unless listed as brown rice, is the de-hulled rice kernel, without the bran -- known as white rice.

Rice, in its whole form, is a high quality source of carbohydrates, protein and fiber. This is in contrast to fractionated grain ingredients used by some manufacturers such as rice polishings, rice bran, or brewers rice which have been leeched of much of their nutrient value.

Natura uses whole rice, which is the most easily digested grain and the least likely to cause allergic reactions. It is an antidiarrheal and helps lower cholesterol. Natura also uses brown rice, which is the same plant with the bran intact.

Taurine
Taurine is the 11th essential amino acid required by cats.

Insufficient levels of taurine can lead to blindness and cardiac problems in cats. Meat is naturally high in taurine, so Natura foods contain high levels of this important nutrient. Natural taurine is also added to our cat foods to ensure cats get enough of this essential amino acid.

Cats vs Dogs: While dogs can synthesize taurine in their systems, cats cannot and must have additional amounts added to their diet for proper health.

Recent university research has suggested, however, that like cats, some breeds of dogs may benefit from Taurine in the diet. While California Natural has always contained ample Taurine from natural sources such as lamb meal, we have decided to supplement Taurine to ensure that all puppies receive full nutritional benefit from our products.

Potassium Chloride
A chemical compound, KCl, a colorless or white, cubic, crystalline compound that closely resembles common salt (sodium chloride). It is soluble in water, alcohol, and alkalies.

Potassium plays various roles in metabolism and body functions. It assists in the regulation of the acid-base balance and water balance in the blood and the body tissue. It assists in protein synthesis from amino acids and in carbohydrate metabolism.

Choline Chloride
Choline chloride is a member of the B-complex group of water-soluble vitamins (vitamin B-4).

It is used as an animal feed additive, especially for poultry and swine, to increase growth, reduce mortality rate, increase feed efficiency, increase egg production, and improve meat quality. It is not a substitute for any other feed supplement and has no direct substitutes itself.

Calcium Carbonate
Calcium carbonate is a mineral that is true to its name by containing a minimum of 38% calcium.

The calcium in bone provides structural integrity to the skeleton and also contributes to the maintenance of proper blood calcium levels through ongoing resorption and deposition. Circulating calcium has essential roles in nerve impulse transmission, muscle contraction, blood coagulation, the activation of certain enzyme systems, the maintenance of normal cell-membrane permeability and transport, and cardiac function.

Vitamins/Minerals
Vitamins are organic compounds that function as parts of enzyme systems essential for the transmission of energy and the regulation of metabolisms of the body. Minerals are inorganic substances essential for a host of vital processes within the body.

AAFCO regulates minimum standard quantities of vitamins and minerals in levels that pets need to survive. All pet food manufacturers supplement their products with vitamins and minerals. Beyond meeting these minimum requirements, all Natura products contain a complete vitamin and mineral supplement program that helps pets to thrive, not just survive. The minerals Natura uses are chelated, providing three to ten times greater assimilation than common minerals. Our Innova products also contain beneficial probiotic supplements, which are not required by the AAFCO minimums.

Included in our foods are some of the following: Ascorbic Acid, Beta Carotene, Biotin, Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Choline Chloride, Cobalt Carbonate, Cobalt Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Dicalcium Pantothenate, dl-Methionine, Folic Acid, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Niacin, Potassium Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin C Supplement (Sodium Ascorbate), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement (Alpha Tocopherol), Zinc Proteinate

Natura adds these important vitamins and minerals, in proper balance to its foods to ensure that your pet gets all the necessary nutrients for life and good health every day.
 

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Both. I would mix them. Or have a meal of Canidae and a meal of Cal. Natural.
 

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Well, Shanon! I was just telling you what I would do :p LOL

But, really, I don't think you can go wrong with either. Canidae is a good company as is Natura. I would try and see which one Caiza likes better
 

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My trainer actually mixes Canidae and Cal. Natural (I only know this because I dogsit for her, I promise I do not stalk my trainer :p)
Canidae did wonders for Izzy's sensative tummy, it was the only one that she could eat without getting sick.
If the switch to Nature's Variety Instinct doesn't go well we will be staying with Canidae for sure.
 

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Both of the foods you mention sound good. I have found success with the following which I give to my border collie who has a sensitive stomach:
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This brand has prebiotics and probiotics for healthy digestion. Also, it is delivered right to my door.

Lynda
 
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