Best family dog breed
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Did ya ever post something and just wish you never did? Well my only post on this thread is one time I wish I would have not posted.
The more I read........ the more the story changes.....
I was also under the impression the dog was "aggressive" not nipping.
I also thought the poster was an adult......It seems the op is young.
I am also sorry your Mom hates Labs........they are wonderful dogs, but they take a great deal of effort and training. I now think you are expecting too much out of any particular dog/puppy. Most great dogs take alot of effort and training to be "well mannered".
Anyway....... I think on this thread I also didn't read well enough...... I was just trying to be polite, as not to scare away another new poster with rudeness.
Some dogs of every breed have probably died at 8 years old....... any dog can suddenly die of disease or accident.......just like any person.
Anyway........I just wish I would have left this thread alone.
The more I read........ the more the story changes.....
I was also under the impression the dog was "aggressive" not nipping.
I also thought the poster was an adult......It seems the op is young.
I am also sorry your Mom hates Labs........they are wonderful dogs, but they take a great deal of effort and training. I now think you are expecting too much out of any particular dog/puppy. Most great dogs take alot of effort and training to be "well mannered".
Anyway....... I think on this thread I also didn't read well enough...... I was just trying to be polite, as not to scare away another new poster with rudeness.
Some dogs of every breed have probably died at 8 years old....... any dog can suddenly die of disease or accident.......just like any person.
Anyway........I just wish I would have left this thread alone.
My thoughts exactly Julie... I wished I had read it closer. My original thoughts were right. Then I second guess myself and thought I misunderstood the facts.
My first impression was that someone had gotten a dog and decided it wasn't the dog for them and gave it back and now wants to try out another dog and asking for suggestions on what kind of dog to get.
Then after second guessing myself and reading part of the thread I THOUGHT it was an adult that had kids of his own and the dog was causing bodily damage to peoples hands and literally "attacking" kids and cats.
I was wondering the same thing as far as giving the dog back if it was aggressive and literally biting people only to be adopted by another family who would be faced with the same problems of aggression.
I guess I have no more to say since everyone has already said it all. I understand the OP came on here asking for suggestions on a dog breed good for families.. but after you read the whole thing how can you not go off on a tangent and discuss the other factors like the reasoning for giving a dog away. It's hard to recommend another kind of dog to someone who APPEARS to not have a commitment with owning a dog and has already stated they gave it away. I guess I need to try and stay away from the threads that I cannot simply answer the op original question.
To the OP:
I could not in good conscience suggest for you to get any breed of dog until you have had a chance to really evaluate your reasoning for wanting a dog. And know what your expectations of a dog are and all that goes into having a dog and properly caring for it.
I'm not saying you should never own a dog. I'm just saying to make sure it's what you really want and that you are wiling to make the commitment it takes in raising a dog.
I know some of the replies have been a little blunt, but you can learn some valuable information from them if you look at it from a different perspective.
By the way, if you don't mind me asking... how old are you?
My first impression was that someone had gotten a dog and decided it wasn't the dog for them and gave it back and now wants to try out another dog and asking for suggestions on what kind of dog to get.
Then after second guessing myself and reading part of the thread I THOUGHT it was an adult that had kids of his own and the dog was causing bodily damage to peoples hands and literally "attacking" kids and cats.
I was wondering the same thing as far as giving the dog back if it was aggressive and literally biting people only to be adopted by another family who would be faced with the same problems of aggression.
I guess I have no more to say since everyone has already said it all. I understand the OP came on here asking for suggestions on a dog breed good for families.. but after you read the whole thing how can you not go off on a tangent and discuss the other factors like the reasoning for giving a dog away. It's hard to recommend another kind of dog to someone who APPEARS to not have a commitment with owning a dog and has already stated they gave it away. I guess I need to try and stay away from the threads that I cannot simply answer the op original question.
To the OP:
I could not in good conscience suggest for you to get any breed of dog until you have had a chance to really evaluate your reasoning for wanting a dog. And know what your expectations of a dog are and all that goes into having a dog and properly caring for it.
I'm not saying you should never own a dog. I'm just saying to make sure it's what you really want and that you are wiling to make the commitment it takes in raising a dog.
I know some of the replies have been a little blunt, but you can learn some valuable information from them if you look at it from a different perspective.
By the way, if you don't mind me asking... how old are you?
Your story keeps changing each time you post...
what do you mean calculate when it went through heat..I hope you know not all dogs go through heat at the EXACT same time...stop blaming the shelter and saying that they pawned you into getting the dog. A shelter picks up dogs from people WHO DON'T WANT THEM ANYMORE..they do us a favor...I can't disagree that management and politics does ruin some shelters..but alot of the people do try their best.
Again, I think everyone here agrees that your behaviorist was crap...he didn't even evaluate or assess any training methods for the dog and simply told you on day one to go return the dog...I'm sorry but uhh, did you pay for this guy? I hope not!
And you still didn't answer my question..what was your idea of aggressive and "attack" that you mentioned before? Because if its the nipping that you suggested, I'm sorry but that's not aggression or attacking..the dog either attacked and was aggressive, or it wasn't.
Just DON'T get another dog and we'll leave it at that...
what do you mean calculate when it went through heat..I hope you know not all dogs go through heat at the EXACT same time...stop blaming the shelter and saying that they pawned you into getting the dog. A shelter picks up dogs from people WHO DON'T WANT THEM ANYMORE..they do us a favor...I can't disagree that management and politics does ruin some shelters..but alot of the people do try their best.
Again, I think everyone here agrees that your behaviorist was crap...he didn't even evaluate or assess any training methods for the dog and simply told you on day one to go return the dog...I'm sorry but uhh, did you pay for this guy? I hope not!
And you still didn't answer my question..what was your idea of aggressive and "attack" that you mentioned before? Because if its the nipping that you suggested, I'm sorry but that's not aggression or attacking..the dog either attacked and was aggressive, or it wasn't.
Just DON'T get another dog and we'll leave it at that...
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No I am old I live with parents because I commit to college on bus and I dont think you people undertsnad me its prolly because I just move to the states from germany and only been speaking english for a year. The dog attacked my lil brother because she wanted car in his hand and attacked my mom for sitting on the couch and made her bleed in 3 places. I've trained five dogs my last dog was trained but I couldnt get it to stop attacking the kids and my mom it would only behave around me and my dad and also the dog would run at the ctas bite them and growl and eat there food and when I tried to get it away from cat food it wold attack me and stop and calm down like had problem. Thats why every1 vet and behaviorlist who is the best were I live told us tobring it to the pound because pound lied to us about the dog so it should be there problem and that the dog may be good in home with less excitement.
Ok well if it was attacking people and making everyone bleed, I think its quite safe to say that the dog needs to be euthanized...perhaps that's what your behaviorist was wanting to happen when he referred you back to the shelter, but if this is the case, he should have straight away told you that the dog needs to be euthanized.
Now that you returned the dog to the shelter, did you say that the shelter adopted him/her out again a couple of days later? If this is so, and the dog was really acting as you had mentioned, then in that case the shelter's behaviorist was a broad...
Hmm...quite the story..I dunno what to believe, I dunno what to say...
I just hope you understand what we were trying to tell you and that alot of members on here have knowledge and a passion for dogs and want whats best for dog and owner...
Now that you returned the dog to the shelter, did you say that the shelter adopted him/her out again a couple of days later? If this is so, and the dog was really acting as you had mentioned, then in that case the shelter's behaviorist was a broad...
Hmm...quite the story..I dunno what to believe, I dunno what to say...
I just hope you understand what we were trying to tell you and that alot of members on here have knowledge and a passion for dogs and want whats best for dog and owner...
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No you dont understand they adopted her out couple days after evalulated to an older couple(like 55 and no kids) who own a big farm because the dog wasnt good around children and other people who cant be dominate over it. They said that the dog may be able to fit in if it had less excitement my grandpa who showed dogs in italy and france said hes seen it were dogs dont fit in family life but other life styles happened before and that we shouldnt put down dog yet.
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What a horrible thing to have to be faced with. its a tough decision all round. I am of the opinion that any dog can be trained to behave unless it has had major bad experiences with humans in the past. Some labs are very excitable till they reach roughly one and a half years. Labs are one of the most trainable dogs you can get. I think your behavourist was crap. Totally appreciate your situation but I would have found another trainer.
Sorry for your troubles but I have just re read thru the whole post. It angers me that you are trying to find the perfect dog for you. Yes we all have to consider size, exercise but the temprement of a dog is all up to you! You rescued a dog which is a brave thing to do, but most folk realise this and only rescue cos they have the time and heart in them to retrain a dog to how they want it to be and what will make the dog happiest. If the rescue people werent honest with you (which I find very hard to believe) then you should report them. Every rescue centre I have come across are for the dogs going to perfect homes cos they want the best for the dog concerned and are very strict to where the dog goes. Every dog can be difficult if you dont put the time in to train them. Dogs need to know who is the leader of the pack, it doesnt matter to them if they are leader or not but that is they way dogs need to be. They need to know their place or they are not happy and unsettled because this is nature to them. I think you have had a bad experience but it also says to me that your heart wasnt in it. Think very carefully about getting another dog cos I know (or hope) you would feel gutted if didnt work out. I know for myself that I couldnt give up on a dog just like I wouldnt give up hope on a human. We are all so different and need so many different things. Children and dogs should never be unsupervised no matter how much you trust a dog, young children love to play with dogs but are not always gentle and can frighten your dog. That goes for all breeds and sizes. I know and understand how easy it is to get caught up in wanting a dog and wanting to be exactly like you want it to be. It can only ever be achieved thru love, patience and putting the hard work in to training them. It is a life time commitment and puppies need so much of your time. Unless you have someone to be at home with your pup then forget it, its cruel to leave them for hours whilst you work.
I see folks have said to you about a Staffie, remember a Staffie is a terrier and they are a breed of their own (I own a terrier). I know many Staffies and they are lovely dogs thru and thru but then I think that about all dogs.
If you are prepared to put lots of love and time in to your dog then ok! Make sure he has one person training in the early days. Remember doesnt matter how long any breed can live its not text book. We all know of dogs that outlive their time and we also know the heartbreak when dogs dont live to old age. I have rambled on and on, I know but when you feel as much love for all animals as I do its hard not to.
I hope you come to the right decision for yourself, your family and of course our precious friend the dog.
What a horrible thing to have to be faced with. its a tough decision all round. I am of the opinion that any dog can be trained to behave unless it has had major bad experiences with humans in the past. Some labs are very excitable till they reach roughly one and a half years. Labs are one of the most trainable dogs you can get. I think your behavourist was crap. Totally appreciate your situation but I would have found another trainer.
Sorry for your troubles but I have just re read thru the whole post. It angers me that you are trying to find the perfect dog for you. Yes we all have to consider size, exercise but the temprement of a dog is all up to you! You rescued a dog which is a brave thing to do, but most folk realise this and only rescue cos they have the time and heart in them to retrain a dog to how they want it to be and what will make the dog happiest. If the rescue people werent honest with you (which I find very hard to believe) then you should report them. Every rescue centre I have come across are for the dogs going to perfect homes cos they want the best for the dog concerned and are very strict to where the dog goes. Every dog can be difficult if you dont put the time in to train them. Dogs need to know who is the leader of the pack, it doesnt matter to them if they are leader or not but that is they way dogs need to be. They need to know their place or they are not happy and unsettled because this is nature to them. I think you have had a bad experience but it also says to me that your heart wasnt in it. Think very carefully about getting another dog cos I know (or hope) you would feel gutted if didnt work out. I know for myself that I couldnt give up on a dog just like I wouldnt give up hope on a human. We are all so different and need so many different things. Children and dogs should never be unsupervised no matter how much you trust a dog, young children love to play with dogs but are not always gentle and can frighten your dog. That goes for all breeds and sizes. I know and understand how easy it is to get caught up in wanting a dog and wanting to be exactly like you want it to be. It can only ever be achieved thru love, patience and putting the hard work in to training them. It is a life time commitment and puppies need so much of your time. Unless you have someone to be at home with your pup then forget it, its cruel to leave them for hours whilst you work.
I see folks have said to you about a Staffie, remember a Staffie is a terrier and they are a breed of their own (I own a terrier). I know many Staffies and they are lovely dogs thru and thru but then I think that about all dogs.
If you are prepared to put lots of love and time in to your dog then ok! Make sure he has one person training in the early days. Remember doesnt matter how long any breed can live its not text book. We all know of dogs that outlive their time and we also know the heartbreak when dogs dont live to old age. I have rambled on and on, I know but when you feel as much love for all animals as I do its hard not to.
I hope you come to the right decision for yourself, your family and of course our precious friend the dog.
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No but the shelter is to blame because I told them what I want and they give me that. They didnt do an evalulation I report them but they say nothing we can do with no proof and no one believes us because we dont speak english as good so they think were joking. We had someone from England with us when we adpoted this dog so it wasnt a communication mistake they plane out lied to us. It as in a more poorer neighborhood pound we got dog and they were kinda skethcy like and we were gonna get this one dog and women that works there like no this dog perfect for the family so we take that dog and it did everything she said it didnt do. We got dogs from pounds and everything in Germany and Italy and it work fine so i dont know what is wrong with american pounds.
I dont think its very fair to say all American pounds are bad.
I know the pounds around Dallas arent bad.
Most all do background checks on new owners, home evaluations, and will make sure the dog is placed in a home that best matches the new family.
At the moment Im looking for a new dog and every pound I look at asks if I have children, other dogs, how big is my yard, is it fenced, how does my dog react around other dogs, etc...
All the dogs at the Dallas pounds have brief discriptions.. good with kids, not good with kids, needs to be the only dog in the house, loves dogs... stuff like that.
Im sure its like that everywhere where there is a major pound... SPCA, Humane Society... etc..
I know the pounds around Dallas arent bad.
Most all do background checks on new owners, home evaluations, and will make sure the dog is placed in a home that best matches the new family.
At the moment Im looking for a new dog and every pound I look at asks if I have children, other dogs, how big is my yard, is it fenced, how does my dog react around other dogs, etc...
All the dogs at the Dallas pounds have brief discriptions.. good with kids, not good with kids, needs to be the only dog in the house, loves dogs... stuff like that.
Im sure its like that everywhere where there is a major pound... SPCA, Humane Society... etc..
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HaR - How old are you anyways? You say you trained your last dog yet it still attacked your brothers, mom and the cats. Obviously the dog wasn't trained or it wouldn't have been attacking.
So you went to the shelter and they gave you a dog that they had just gotten in? Somehow I find that hard to believe. Every shelter is supposed to take in the dog, vaccinate it, test it for temperament and which home's it would do best in, THEN let someone adopt it AFTER they've filled out an application, been asked questions, met the dog, had all the family members meet the dog and see that it gets along with everyone before they adopt the dog out. If you had a problem with the dog you should have brought it back to the original shelter, not a different one.
Did you bother trying to train the dog?
If it was still a puppy there could have been any number of reasons for the nipping, taking stuff, etc. Mainly, lack of training and it was still a pup...IMO.
Was it a male or female? You know only females come into heat, right? And it's not always exactly 6 months apart.
Did you vaccinate the dog? Play with it? Exercise it? Take it to a professional trainer and puppy classes? Have it evaluated by a "good" behaviorist. A good behaviorist doesn't automatically tell you to give the dog up.
What training methods did you use, if any? What was the dogs name...or did you bother naming it?
All breeds have the possibility of biting, agression issues, disliking animals, etc. You have to have a properly bred dog and properly train the dog to become a well behaved member of canine society. Sit, stay, heel, come, give, drop it, down, etc are common commands that need to be taught. You have to teach a pup about bite inhibition (depending on it's age and previous back ground), how to deal with other animals and children properly, to not try to take something that someone else is holding, etc.
It really sounds like you didn't bother training this pup and gave up on it. Tell us what methods of training you used? Why you didn't bring the dog back to the original shelter? How did you introduce your family and the cats to this new dog?
There are so many unanswered questions. It may just lie in the fact that you are new to the country and don't understand English very well yet. The dog may not have understood you either. Maybe you didn't understand the behaviorist and others that were involved. Either way, I don't think you should get another dog any time soon. You are breed biased and don't seem to know how to train a dog. jmo
So you went to the shelter and they gave you a dog that they had just gotten in? Somehow I find that hard to believe. Every shelter is supposed to take in the dog, vaccinate it, test it for temperament and which home's it would do best in, THEN let someone adopt it AFTER they've filled out an application, been asked questions, met the dog, had all the family members meet the dog and see that it gets along with everyone before they adopt the dog out. If you had a problem with the dog you should have brought it back to the original shelter, not a different one.
Did you bother trying to train the dog?
If it was still a puppy there could have been any number of reasons for the nipping, taking stuff, etc. Mainly, lack of training and it was still a pup...IMO.
Was it a male or female? You know only females come into heat, right? And it's not always exactly 6 months apart.
Did you vaccinate the dog? Play with it? Exercise it? Take it to a professional trainer and puppy classes? Have it evaluated by a "good" behaviorist. A good behaviorist doesn't automatically tell you to give the dog up.
What training methods did you use, if any? What was the dogs name...or did you bother naming it?
All breeds have the possibility of biting, agression issues, disliking animals, etc. You have to have a properly bred dog and properly train the dog to become a well behaved member of canine society. Sit, stay, heel, come, give, drop it, down, etc are common commands that need to be taught. You have to teach a pup about bite inhibition (depending on it's age and previous back ground), how to deal with other animals and children properly, to not try to take something that someone else is holding, etc.
It really sounds like you didn't bother training this pup and gave up on it. Tell us what methods of training you used? Why you didn't bring the dog back to the original shelter? How did you introduce your family and the cats to this new dog?
There are so many unanswered questions. It may just lie in the fact that you are new to the country and don't understand English very well yet. The dog may not have understood you either. Maybe you didn't understand the behaviorist and others that were involved. Either way, I don't think you should get another dog any time soon. You are breed biased and don't seem to know how to train a dog. jmo