Attacked by her show dog!

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This was on my local new last night and this morning. Seems as if the woman tried to break up a dog fight between 2 males and one of the dogs turned on her. It doesn't say in this story but they interviewed the womans son and they are going to euthanize the dog. Apparently the dog turned so violent that he wouldn't let go of his owner. Seeing as how this is a champion show dog and has created lots of offspring I hope they don't turn out like the father did.

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO45582/
 

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Gee, and it's a Kerry Blue...

That's really too bad though. That poor woman.
 

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Where does it say the dog is a champion and that it has reproduced?

That is a very unfortunate. I hope she's okay. :(
 

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Where does it say the dog is a champion and that it has reproduced?

That is a very unfortunate. I hope she's okay. :(
It mentioned that on the news Showpug. unfortunately the story they gave wasn't filled with all the info that was given when they interviewed the womans son on the news. Of course the dog was always very sweet and loved everyone :rolleyes: .
 

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Isn't behavior like that unsual for show dogs?
Maybe people who are breeding for temperament it can be out of character for a show dog. But if it is just based on looks and the temperament is over looked then I'm sure it can happen as this did. I have a neighbor with a kerry blue who is the same age as Caiza and they play occassionally. Her first one she owned was extremely dog aggressive, but loved people. She said it is a known trait in the breed to be dog aggressive like some of the other terrier breeds.
 
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Sorry to say i am not shocked. My boss got bitten by a few of them dogs. She owns a kennel this white one killed a dog in the kennel it gotten lose some who. But i hope she gets better however, they are pretty dogs.
 

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In the past two months I've had three human and dog aggression cases with Kerry Blues. The other two have been with Wheatens.
 
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And you know what i bet them fools are going to try and ban this breed. I hate when they do that. What is the next breed they are going to ban the Lab. Them people who make them laws have sh** for brains don't they know it's how you raise a dog.

Socializing a dog and training = Frendly dog

Sticking a dog in the backyard = Aggressive dog
 
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If you have never seen a true blood lust fight between 2 dogs, you will not understand the blind furious rage that goes along with it.

In a real fight, dogs will not hear you or pay any attention to most anything you do. In many cases even a water hose is a futile attempt to break it up.

Dogs in THIS kind of blind fight drive can whirl and attack or latch onto anything in reach. I do not excuse the dog or the attack, but IF there was a fight going on, I can understand how it could happen.

Hope she'll be ok. Dog bite injuries are just awful, even minor ones.
 

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I saw that on the news too. When my mom saw it she said that's weird they don't look like the type of dogs that bite. I almost starting going on a "pit bulls aren't evil" rant but decided that would make her mad and plus she simply is not educated in this stuff. I just said any dog can bite mom.

I also hope he has not fathered too many litters that could have that temperament. this does not however prove he is human aggressive does it? I mean the woman was breaking up a fight, she was bound to get bit. Although the dog wouldn't let go so maybe it is human aggression, I don't know :rolleyes:
 

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Just because its a "show dog" does not make it some kind of special creature. A dog is a dog. But a show dog *should* have the proper breeding/socializaion to where you wont have people/dog aggression, but some breeds are more prone to it. Also, as someone mentioned before, dogs get into fights, and I think it was Redrye that said it, they dont listen, they dont see you, feel you... they have 1 think on thier mind and that is to fight. You of course want to break up the fight, but any expereinced dog person will know that if you stick your hands between two dogs fighting, your risking getting bit, plain and simple. No excuse for the dog, but something to think about.
 

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I've seen a couple of show dogs bite the judge.
Just because it's a show dog doesn't imply intelligence or a good temperament. When in the ring if the dog will stack, pace on a show lead and not bite the judge that's pretty much the biggest battle. The FIRST thing a "show business" breeder/purchaser will do when inspecting a prospective show dog/pup is see FIRST if it's breed standard is met, i.e. gait, body type, profile, topline, elbows, rear etc. If it's an amazing looking dog/pup if they think it can win championships, attitude is secondary, IF the pup is really amazing. Seen it happen and talked about more than I can count concerning many of the different breeds.
 
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I think Red is right on target.

I didn't read the entire article, but I don't think that a dog fight should be indicative of this dog's temperament. A lot of show dog breeders keep multiple in tact dogs in their home. Two in tact males will go at it over a bitch in heat (or just go at it period) and if you happen to get in the way, or try to break it up...well....**** happens.

The Briard breeder I used to work for took a few nasty bites to her hand while trying to break up a fight between two bitches. Both bitches were individually the sweetest dogs, but if they even saw each other through a window, the poop would hit the fan. They also were fine with other dogs in the ring - but living together, they had formed a mutual hatred towards one another and it finally blew up one day and they got to each other.
 

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Even in some breeds bred to fight, they do not turn and attack anyone trying to pull them apart; they shouldn't.

It's hard to see how some people will understand this happening, but, in some other cases, it's always a dog's fault, even if it is beaten. There's no excuses according to some. Odd...
 
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Even in some breeds bred to fight, they do not turn and attack anyone trying to pull them apart; they shouldn't.

It's hard to see how some people will understand this happening, but, in some other cases, it's always a dog's fault, even if it is beaten. There's no excuses according to some. Odd...
American Pit Bull Terriers were specifically selected for dogs who grip and don't let go to bite anyone who wades into the fight.

This is NOT so with other breeds, and MANY dog bite injuries are the result of going into a fight to break it up.

As I stated before, if you have never WITNESSED a real dog fight, you might not understand this sort of drive/frenzy in dogs. Dogs redirect aggression all the time, and in a real fight, if they happen to redirect on YOU it can be VERY bad.

I do not excuse the dog, I would not keep the dog personally were it one of mine, however, I DO understand the mechanics and behavior behind it.
 

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I know one thing . Garden hose , long board or anything other then myself put between two dogs fighting. They are in a mode that they do not realize you are trying to help. To me if she were a reputable breeder she would have known that. Even the mildest of dogs can get nasty. Dogs regardless of breed can and do fight for various reasons. I don't think the dog's temperament is the thing so much as the fool hearty that stepped into a dog fight unarmed. How many people have been bitten badly by a dog attacking their pooch ?
A dog wise person and good breeder would know this. If you think for one minute I would offer myself up for a severe bite to break up Kahlua and Whiskey if they were so inclined as to fight like that your mistaken. I would use a mop or what ever to break them up then separate. Dogs regardless of temperment can and do like people get p.o.ed and fight.
 

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I'm not really sure how I feel about it.

having seen real dog fights I wouldn't want to step in between them-and terriers can be nutty on their own anyway;) I know I've broken up fights with my own dogs were I have worried about getting bit but you have to know going into it in a multiple dog household its a possibility-with unaltered dogs its even higher. I know if my boy bit me he'd automatically let go,but our little foster terror(I mean terrrier!) would probally keep going and not even think twice till the other dog was away.

this is totally diffrent than going and just walking up to someone and biting them or even biting a judge during a show etc.
 

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