Are your dogs licensed with the county?

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Yes, with the city. My city actually has a decent animal control that I'm happy to support, and also I like to keep a paper trail of "responsible" pet ownership. I also need a city license to get a license for the city-run dog park which I adore, so there you go.
 

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Yep! It's a county thing here.

Of course not paying a fine if caught without them is probably biggest factor but many dogs that have wandered here have gotten home just by calling and finding who they are registered to with a tag number. Worth it.
 

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Yes, just for the fact that you can actually get fined (even if the dog is with you, on leash) if a cop drives by and doesn't see tags. If your dog is at large, you get fined not only for that, but also for no license.

It's really cheap here though, especially for altered dogs. It's like $8... don't know how much it is for unaltered, I think it's atleast $10 more.

My only complaint is that I wish they could spell the breeds correctly.
 

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My boys are. With Gambit being kind of iffy with people, I want as much ammunition as possible to prove I'm responsible with him. It was $12.

Because I got Shaman done at four months, his first one was free. Next year, though, it's $150 because he's intact! :yikes: So apparently the going rate for a pair of balls is $138. Who knew?
 

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Because I got Shaman done at four months, his first one was free. Next year, though, it's $150 because he's intact! :yikes: So apparently the going rate for a pair of balls is $138. Who knew?
Wow, that's quite a fee for being intact.
Some areas seem to have much higher prices for that than others. I wonder if it's because of how many dogs are in the shelter in that county.
Since some people don't think responsible containment is possible and neutering is the only way to prevent puppies (though that's a whole other subject), I understand why they'd want to drive people to spay/neuter by using money, though I still think it's crap.
I understand the high fee here, as AC is completely overrun. When I visited them to get Fable, compared to the local humane society, they had dogs packed in like sardines. There must have been a hundred dogs, not even counting the ones in the back waiting to be adoptable or to be reclaimed.
 

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Unfortunatly our area is extremely overrun with strays and unwanted dogs. The shelter I work with is one county over, and Euthed 4,000 animals last year.
This county has a good spay/neuter clinic, and actually does have a mandatory spay/neuter law, so the high fee is his liscense and his 'breeders liscence' both.
 
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For those of you that purchase a license, what benefits are there to said license? And why do you think it is reasonable for a municipality to require you to purchase a license in order to own property?

I can see a driver's license, it shows you've exhibited at least a minimum in driving competency to operate on a road, but you can buy the car (property) as soon as you're old enough to legally own property and have enough money to buy one.

Marriage license? I could argue is silly as well, but at least there are societal and legal ramifications of getting one that entitle you to rights and responsibilities mainly concerning property that you own either pre or post maritally. It doesn't grant you the permission to "own" something, just what happens if one of you should die or divorce.

Or is akin more to a vehicle registration? Then why is my ****ing city so dog unfriendly? I can't be on school grounds, can't walk them at the farmer's market, can't take them to parades, can't be in city parks, and our 80 acre spread of soccer fields that is largely vacant, continues to sit unused for the majority of the year. How about our walking paths? nope, can't use those either. Our one "city" dog park that is funded by private donations? Gee thanks :) At least with registering my vehicle with the state I get to drive on the **** roads.

So, other than generating revenue, what do you get for your "license" to own property
 
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Well the revenue from pet licenses in my city support animal control specifically, which is decent in my city and as I've said I'm happy to support them. They do a fair amount of community education, humane investigations, and sheltering. The city license is also required to get a city-run off leash park license (overseen by the park and rec department, not animal control, which is why they are two separate licenses), which allows me access to a really stellar dog park down on the river bottoms.

For my pets specifically, if lost they get a free ride directly to my home from animal control instead of getting taken to the shelter. Our AC has also put together a little rewards card with several local businesses that gives you discounts. But most importantly to me, it's important to me to keep that paper trail of a "responsible" dog owner. ETA: The same reason I got a CGC for Squash, really. It doesn't mean THAT much to me, but it looks good for a big, intimidating muscly dog to have as many publicly perceived positive things on his side if anything or anyone sketchy happens.

There are all sorts of things that municipalities micromanage about citizens' property that specify what you can and can't do. Honestly, there's no "principal of the thing" that I feel oppressed over, nor would this be the hill I wanted to die on even if I did. And I don't mind paying fees if I get stuff I value out of it - which I feel I do, both personally and for animals in my community as a whole.

(FWIW I don't license my cats even though legally I'm supposed to, because they never leave the house and nobody is going to accuse my 10# cat of anything nefarious.)
 
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nobody is talking about dying on any hills

I'd argue that animal control services are the responsibility of all citizens of a municipality, especially a large metropolitan area. It's hardly a benefit to just the "responsible" pet owning community.

I can see a benefit of having your dog returned should they get away. But i'm not worried about that anyway, and I'm pretty sure they don't offer that service here. But if that's what I was looking for, I'd look more at a chip or nationwide database service for that situation.

A CGC means you've at least done something with your dogs. I'd like to see them be taken a bit more seriously, as I have seen some pretty lax testing happening. Have to be careful not to cheapen it too much, but that's another discussion I guess.

A license just means you've paid money. What if they decided to charge you 50 bucks per dog per year? 150? Would the amount charged decide if you paid it or not?

I'm of the opinion that if my dog runs away and is caught, they have dog running at large fines and laws for that.

They have nuisance laws for anything my dogs might do and fines for those things.

If my dogs bite or cause property damage, they have laws for that and i am financially liable as well.

You guys have a nice dog area and park, that's a great benefit. I'm actually surprised how dog unfriendly this place is. I buy a license I can't even take my dog down the city streets on a saturday morning because there's a farmer's market. I can't have them out on any other "gathering" on public sidewalks either. Kind of crappy. Our license isn't much, but it isn't worth 5 bucks to me let alone the 20 or so that it is
 

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I license my dogs. They're $30 (intact) or $10 (altered) - Not that big of a deal, the AC can use it. Then they know that my dogs are vaccinated in case anything ever happened and there was question. I don't put tags on them, but they are chipped, so their microchip would be scanned, linked to my info and our records, which indicate they are licensed and vaccinated for rabies. If they were ever taken to AC as strays picked up, they wouldn't be vaccinated AGAIN and I wouldn't be charged as much to reclaim them. Knock on wood. I just like following the law. We go out and do a lot and I don't want to have to worry about trouble being started.
 

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Zora is registered. They are kindof on you about it though here.

Your fees are cute. Zora is 48€ every year... if we were to get a second dog, it would be 96€ for each further dog. :eek:
If you have a "dangerous" breed (theres a list) you have to pay 600€ a year. :rolleyes:

In the city I go to school in its 116€ a year and about 1000€ a year for a "dangerous" breed.
 
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I'd argue that animal control services are the responsibility of all citizens of a municipality, especially a large metropolitan area. It's hardly a benefit to just the "responsible" pet owning community.
Sure, and well-educated children are a benefit to the entire community. But parents pay more direct school-related costs than I do as a non-parent because in addition to property taxes (which fund schools here) as they have various user-type fees for kids to go on field trips, participate in activities, etc. I don't think that's unfair, nor do I think it's unfair for me to pay a little extra. If people like me didn't have dogs, then AC probably wouldn't need to exist.

I can see a benefit of having your dog returned should they get away. But i'm not worried about that anyway, and I'm pretty sure they don't offer that service here. But if that's what I was looking for, I'd look more at a chip or nationwide database service for that situation.
My dogs are microchipped and have ID tags, but the more ways to get them home the better.

A license just means you've paid money. What if they decided to charge you 50 bucks per dog per year? 150? Would the amount charged decide if you paid it or not?
Like it or not, given that they likely know absolutely nothing else about you, to the authorities the license does carry some weight to form their opinion of you as a dog owner. If paying a small fee gets me some extra consideration, ok fine with me. They don't charge me 50 or 150 bucks per year, and honestly I don't see the value in trying to define where that line is between "I would pay this" and "I wouldn't pay that." As long as I can afford it, the amount I pay isn't as important to me as what is the value of what I pay. Right now I think I pay $25 a year per dog, and I feel it's worth it. If the price changed, I would want to know what else had changed before deciding whether the cost was reasonable or not.
 

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Like it or not, given that they likely know absolutely nothing else about you, to the authorities the license does carry some weight to form their opinion of you as a dog owner. If paying a small fee gets me some extra consideration, ok fine with me. They don't charge me 50 or 150 bucks per year, and honestly I don't see the value in trying to define where that line is between "I would pay this" and "I wouldn't pay that." As long as I can afford it, the amount I pay isn't as important to me as what is the value of what I pay. Right now I think I pay $25 a year per dog, and I feel it's worth it. If the price changed, I would want to know what else had changed before deciding whether the cost was reasonable or not.
I agree on the extra consideration. Just peace of mind knowing I'm in good standing with my dogs in the city.
 
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Ha I totally forgot that we have lifetime licenses here now. I don't even remember what I paid for them but I do know it was less than what the accumulated costs for a lifetime of yearly licenses would be.
 

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The only reason Joey and Cricket are licensed with my county is so I can take them to the dog parks. Your dog has to wear county tags at the dog park or you will get fined. I've seen animal control show up at random times to check so they do enforce it.

Bamm is not licensed with the county. He doesn't go to dog parks though.

The one thing I have noticed about some of the counties out here is as soon as your dog gets a rabies vaccine in that county you end up getting a notice in the mail telling you to register your dog with the county. So basically the veterinarians are sharing your vaccine information with the county???
 

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Yes ours are all registered.

A neighbour that forgot to renew the license had the animal control officers knock on their door to make sure they updated their dog license.
 

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