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Our vet charges $40 for an office call/exam, and then whatever else is on top of that.
They give us rabies for $11.50 because we have so many done there.
Others would pay $35 or whatever per vaccine.

The other vet we bring fosters to waive the office charge/exam fee because if we brought the dog/pup there it usually means we're buying medicine. A fecal float is $20 there.
Xrays run $90 at both vets for two views.
 

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This looks a lot like one of my friends bills (still seems expensive to me:p)... she had a $20 fee to... get this... DISPOSE of the fecal matter, for the fecal test :eek:

:rofl1: I about died when I read that.
Oh, I believe it. Way back when Mick was a puppy
(1991), I questioned a $10 medical disposal fee on a bill. It was to dispose of the needle used for his vaccine.
 

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For the record, I agree with both of you. I do think the exam fee should be more expensive than the vaccination but then I think we'd have even more people buying the vaccinations by themselves, or asking for a technician to administer it. We have plenty of that already, so the owners really try to keep people wanting the wellness exam.

Do you sell vaccinations, or offer technician only visits to reduce costs to clients?
The physical exam, if done properly, is 100x more important than the vaccination. Vaccinations are just one set of the whole. A good PE can help find a lot more than a vaccination would.

That said, vaccinations are still incredibly important. Just the exam is going to tell you more.



To answer the OP:
Just took my 10 month old rescued Poiner mix for his first check up and second round of shots. I knew it would be expensive but was shocked at some of the charges! I live in an expensive area (Bergen County NJ outside of NYC) but don't recall such high prices at my previous veterinarian in Staten Island. $75 for a fecal with test for Giardia? $65 for the first of two Lyme disease shots? $23 to clean out his ears? $15 for 1 heartguard chewable and a "free" 1 month dose of Frontline? $65 for 2nd set of puppy shots (already had rabies)?
I think those are ridiculous, but some vets are shifting their pricing structure around. Some have the thought process of "we don't get paid enough (which is true) so let's charge more" or "let's charge low for basics like the PE and vax and then increase charges on surgery and the like" (which yours is clearly not doing). There's also the thought processes, in a large area, of "we offer way better service than the dirt-cheap place down the road and enough clients will pay for that service so we can keep high prices". This kind of sounds like what your vet is doing, especially since s/he operates in an affluent area.

It's kind of an interesting time in the profession as people work around the economy and what not. Lots of clinics failing at the moment because people don't want to pay out of pocket for 'luxury' services and insurance isn't widespread enough to offer an indirect income source.



That said, the clinic I used to work at would do the whole exam for a dog for $78 (I think it's $93 now though). That included DHLP-PV, Rabies, Bordatella, heartworm test, fecal test, physical exam, and whatever miscellaneous needed/requested (nail clips/ear cleanings). We made our money on tests ($70 for a 12 slide panel test, $55 for a CBC, etc.) but they weren't exactly pushed. Just priced high enough that they made enough money to still make a profit without having to push it on every client.

But it was hardly an 'expensive area'. Middle-class at best.
 
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We made our money on tests ($70 for a 12 slide panel test, $55 for a CBC, etc.) but they weren't exactly pushed. Just priced high enough that they made enough money to still make a profit without having to push it on every client.
Did you run these tests in house?

I keep saying it that I live in the middle of nowhere but our tests are NOT that expensive. CBC + GHP (17 canine, 15 feline, 10-mini profile) + Electrolyte screen is roughly $100 with the blood draw fee. That's in house. Sent out to IDEXX is a little cheaper. Many people pay extra for the convenience of having results back within half an hour.

I keep coming back to this thread because it's fascinating to me.

Do you/did you require bloodwork for any/some/all surgical procedures?
 

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Did you run these tests in house?

I keep saying it that I live in the middle of nowhere but our tests are NOT that expensive. CBC + GHP (17 canine, 15 feline, 10-mini profile) + Electrolyte screen is roughly $100 with the blood draw fee. That's in house. Sent out to IDEXX is a little cheaper. Many people pay extra for the convenience of having results back within half an hour.

I keep coming back to this thread because it's fascinating to me.

Do you/did you require bloodwork for any/some/all surgical procedures?
Yah we ran them in house. Only sent off things like biopsy's and the like.

We did not require bloodwork for all surgical procedures. Only geriatrics or complicated procedures, or if the owner elected to do it.


I love threads like these. Very interested in veterinary pricing structures.



This looks a lot like one of my friends bills (still seems expensive to me)... she had a $20 fee to... get this... DISPOSE of the fecal matter, for the fecal test
Some towns are bitchy about medical waste disposal and charge a huge fee. This is what that is. Most of the time it's built into the cost of the fecal, but they were likely getting people wondering why their fecals are so expensive. Probably better to have people go 'wait, what's this fee for?' to the vet rather than 'man they're gouging you on the fecal test!' to their friends.
 

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We really only run inhouse labs on surgery patients that didnt have it done before hand (we require all surgeries to have pre-op current labwork, except male cat castrations...). Also on sick patients that we need labs ASAP on. We only have a chem and CBC machine inhouse, and have snap spec CPL's. We sent out 98% of labs to Idexx. We recc. a GHP on all pets that come in for yearly exam. We also send out HW tests to them. We can offer our clients a much better deal on labs if we send them out. Even on sick pets we get much more information by sending them out.

SP- are those prices you quoted for labs things you run inhouse? So for a chem6/CBC it is only 17$??!! Wow! Its 75$ at my clinic to do it inhouse. I dont think that is unreasonable either.

Do you really get alot of clients that will just buy vaccines from the store if your prices are too high?
It is an interesting thread to see what clinics charge and for what.
 

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We get clients who buy from the store and then come ask us if they're safe to give. We don't know how they were stored so we can't really tell you. And no, we will not administer them for liability reasons.
 

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SP- are those prices you quoted for labs things you run inhouse? So for a chem6/CBC it is only 17$??!! Wow! Its 75$ at my clinic to do it inhouse. I dont think that is unreasonable either.

Do you really get alot of clients that will just buy vaccines from the store if your prices are too high?
It is an interesting thread to see what clinics charge and for what.
No no no! I was listing how many slides each GHP is. I think a GHP is $40, CBC $35 and Lytes are... $25. Something close to that at least.

We have a "pre-anesthetic CBC" as well as a "diagnostic CBC" so the price varies on that. All pre-anesthetic GHPs are 10 slide-cat or dog.

Yes, we get a lot of clients who give their own vaccinations. Lots and lots. We like to know they're buying a quality product, even if we can't guarantee it's given correctly or in a timely manner.

I love our Catalyst machine... it's like a freaking wonder-robot. New this spring and just... greatness. The SNAPshotDx is pretty cool, but it really only reads things and warms samples that need to be warmed. Not as cool or robotic like.
 

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Wow. I'm speechless. Those prices are just crazy. Heck., my horse vet fees are drastically less than that much less what my clinic charges for small pets.
 

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It looks like this and does our Chem panels.
pretty.

we just got a dri-chem and (much more importantly!) a hematrue. we had been doing in-house CBCs by hand (manual white count with a hemocytometer and then a diff) and omg i want to freaking marry this CBC machine. we do chemo so we do quite a few in-house CBCs. the machine has made things SO MUCH FASTER.

pretty much the only in-house chems we do are sick pets and middle age pre-surgical bloodwork (we don't require bloodwork on pets younger than six. six to ten gets a pcv and a 6-slide panel + lytes- i have no clue what the prices are).
 

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Awesome!! It looks like a beast!!! We have the chem machine in your "far right" picture too. We have a CBC machine that goes with it though. We dont really "do" manual CBC counts. I havnt done those since school and dread teh day i am asked to do one again! :D
 

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our vetlyte hated me. i wasn't sad to see it go.

also- the dri-chem can run off plasma. you can spin the blood immediately and only have to spin it for 2 minutes. complete love.
 

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Wow I never thought my OP would genate such an interesting discussion. I do think I picked a pricey vet and will probably shop around a bit more in the future. Also, now that I have 3 dogs, I am going to look into giving some vaccinations myself. I went through infertility treatment and am diabetic so if I can stick myself that many times I am sure I can do my doggies once or twice a year. I really appreciate the inut abut how much more important the physical exam is than the vaccinations. I have one senior dog who takes seizure and arthritis meds. I want to keep him comfortable and happy for as long as possible which means twice yearly checkups and probably blood work. My new dog (the 10 month old Pointer rescue) seems to have some other medical issues (possible hip problem and some sort of skin problem in his nose) so I am sure I will be spending plenty of money on these other things.

Thanks everyone for all the information!
 

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We have that lasercyte and lab station! That's what our vetlyte looked like but it sits in the back now. It's been replaced!

The catalyst runs off whole blood, serum, or plasma. We almost always run off plasma. I don't think I've ever run it off whole blood personally.

The only Heska machine we have is a portable monitor we use for dentals if there's another surgery going on.
 

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Awesome!! It looks like a beast!!! We have the chem machine in your "far right" picture too. We have a CBC machine that goes with it though. We dont really "do" manual CBC counts. I havnt done those since school and dread teh day i am asked to do one again!
Yah we had a CBC machine that interacted with the panel machine as well. Not sure what it was called but it had a little cover that you flipped open, put the spun hematocrit into the slot, and it like, slurped it in or something. Not sure how it worked lol. I just remember it gave a shitload of buffy coat errors if you touched anything BUT the plastic cap on the hematocrit.

The one we used in the clinpath lab (where the vitros was) was soooo much better. It'd suck pure blood from an EDTA tube so was simple to use. It counted via laser, so it was a bit more accurate than the Idexx counterpart (which, one would kinda expect lol) and had pretty colors and all sorts of good stuff. Only problem is if you had nRBCs you'd get a wonkey Leuk count, but we did manual diffs on all blood samples for RBC morphology any how so it wasn't a big deal since we had to count the WBCs manually anyhow.
 

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our vetlyte hated me. i wasn't sad to see it go.

Really?! LOL!! I think that I am the only one it likes!! Gives everyone else problems. I think we have an understanding between us. We have bonded. Kind of like how an aggressive dog bonds with one person it trusts. :rofl1:

We just dont do enough inhouse labs to warrent buying anything else. The emergency clinic has all the nice toys though since they need results ASAP.
 

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Well, just got back from Caleb's annual. Total bill came to $142 (exam, DA2PPV and Rabies vacs and 6 months of Interceptor for a 50-100 pound dog).
 

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