Anti-Breeder Attitudes?

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  1. OwnedByBCs

    OwnedByBCs Will Creep For Sheep

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    I had someone friend request me (keep in mind, my facebook is Brigadoon Border Collies, very clearly a breeder) and then proceed to post ON MY WALL things like that. She got the boot right away.
    Here is a summary on our breeding costs and what we've made back:

    1st litter: Faith had to have an emergency c-section, +ultrasounds, x-rays, health testing and stud fee, got eclampsia after the puppies were 2 or so weeks, so we spent approximately $3,700. 5 puppies born, 1 died, 1 kept, so sold 3 puppies for around $800. Total: -$1,300.

    2nd litter: Planned c-section at recommendation of a repro vet, +ultrasound, x-rays, and stud fees. Spent around $3,000. 5 puppies born, two kept, so three sold for around $800. Total: -$600.

    3rd litter: Sadie's first litter, stud fees, ultrasound, x-rays, health testing, approximately $1,200. 3 puppies born, sold for around $800. Total: +$1,200. (yay)

    Tried to breed Sadie twice, no success. -$750 (stud fee + medical expenses)

    4th litter: Sadie's second litter. Imported semen from England, surgical implant, +blood test to determine pregnancy, x-rays, and emergency vet visit after she had been in labor for 11 hours with no puppies: Approximately $4,000 spent. 2 puppies born. Kept one puppy, sold the other for $1,000 (higher price because the litter was from imported semen and was so expensive to breed). Total: -$3,000.

    Fiona bred, didn't take. -$750.

    So, lets add that up.

    -$1,300
    -$600
    + $1,200
    -$750
    -$3,000
    -$750

    Grand total: -$5,200.

    Let me go quit my day job and live off of my dogs!
     
  2. CatStina

    CatStina SBT Lover!!

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    So glad I'm not alone in this!! I was a little nervous posting this here, but these responses just let me know that I'm on the right forum! :)
     
  3. JessLough

    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    I don't see how its worse than the anti-rescue group.
     
  4. Shai

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    Welcome ;)
     
  5. PWCorgi

    PWCorgi Priscilla Winifred Corgi

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    I didn't realize there was an "anti-rescue" group. So they think....rescues should be shut down?

    I've never heard anyone say "Oh my gosh, you got your dog from RESCUE?!" lol
     
  6. Shai

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    No one said otherwise :confused:

    I don't think anyone on this thread is anti-rescue. Heck a fair number of us, including the OP if I understand correctly, have rescue dogs.

    I have issues with bad rescues and bad breeders. I am in full support of good rescues and good breeders. I don't see those positions as being in any way contradictory.
     
  7. JessLough

    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    Oh all the time.

    "Oh... you're dog is a RESCUE? Well...uhh.... how...nice...." *suddenly moves away and calls dog from playing with rescued dog, cause its contagious ya know*

    "You got your dog from a rescue? So it's life is worth what....$50?"

    "I can't believe you went to a rescue. They're just in it for the money."

    "Do you ever think you'll get a real dog?"

    Plus many pictures that I've seen just like those ones, basically saying that a rescue dog just could never be as good as a breeder dog.
     
  8. Barbara!

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    Wow.... I know what you mean, Jess. Didn't think of that. I've come across those snobby people, too.


    There is a couple that comes to the dog park and they asked me what Baloo was. I said "Your guess is as good as mine" and they started laughing. I assumed they thought what I said was funny, until they went on to say that rescue dogs aren't as pure or good as breeder dogs and that it was sad for poor Baloo that I didn't even know what he was. Uh... What? I'm pretty sure my dog doesn't give two shits what he is.
     
  9. JessLough

    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    I never said that....?

    The OP said (or atleast acted) they were surprised there was this "group". It was more of "why be surprised? There's a group supporting the other side..." Meh.
     
  10. Shai

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    I guess I was just really confused by what you meant. And still kind of am. You need to hang out with different people lol.
     
  11. PWCorgi

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    True story bro!
    I have never once heard comments like that!

    I have, on occasion, had customers who say their next dog will be from a breeder because their current rescue dog has issues (usually overly shy or reactive with other dogs). But it's never been "ewwwww rescue dogs, yuck!" it's more frustration/this isn't what they thought they signed up for.
     
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    Apparently...Canadian people are heartless :lol-sign:
     
  13. JessLough

    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    LOL nah, these are mostly from ferret people who are apparently against rescue dogs... most are in the UK or/and USA, I think. The one time we've had somebody move away was a stranger at the dog park.
     
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    Then ferret people are heartless :p
     
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    true story bro :rofl1:



    No, but really it never ceases to amaze me that on some ferret forums they are all for marshall ferrets (mill ) but pet store dogs / rescue dogs are ick. Ummm.... and the difference is what exactly? :confused: lol
     
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    I never said nor "acted like" I was surprised there was such a group. I am a bit surprised to see my "friends" and pages that I "like" supporting such a group, though. And I am surprised at how this breeder hating attitude is spreading to more and more people and groups. If I had seen a bunch of anti-rescue pictures in my newsfeed, this post would have been about that. I also said, "I truly believe that ethical/responsible/reputable breeders can have a place in this world along side rescuers/shelters." Maybe that wasn't clear, but I meant breeders and rescuers working together, as in the opposite of the second picture I posted and the opposite of being anti-rescue. I don't understand why rescue and breeding have to be mutually exclusive?

    I, personally, have never met anyone who is anti-rescue. I have met people who would never rescue/adopt a dog, but they always make it a point to say that they respect rescue work. Anti-breeder/breeding people are everywhere and they are multiplying. I think it's a dangerous attitude to be anti-breeder or anti-rescue. That's the only point I was trying to make, sorry if it was unclear.
     
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    Can I like, quote that on FB or when people start getting crazy anti-breeder on my wall? Lol
     
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    Never in my LIFE have I heard anything like that, lol.

    If anything, if you don't have a rescue, I've noticed people look down on you.
     
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    Yes, I consider Saxon to be a rescue dog (sometimes I call him a second hand dog;)) because I adopted him from a family that was going to take him to a shelter if they couldn't find a new home for him. I was unable to adopt from any local shelters or rescues because of my age (I was 20 at the time that I got Saxon) and the fact that I rent, but I did prevent one dog from going into a shelter. I've had a couple of people tell me that Saxon isn't a real rescue because I didn't get him from a shelter, so I guess it depends on how you look at it. :dunno:
     
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    I'm not saying I see it ALL the time. But I have run into people who looked down on me for having a mixed breed rescue.
     

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