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I watch the animal cops shows, you know, Precinct (New York), Miami, Phoenix, Houston and Detroit. Usually they have Miami and Houston on, like today. Yesterday I saw a Miami show where two pit bulls jumped in some ladies car and the male was guarding it from her. So an ACO comes and gets them and they have tags so he goes to their house. Of course Pitties are banned there so he tells the guy he has two days to get rid of them or they die. Luckily he bumped up the time to a week and the man moves. OK, no biggy that's BSl, they did not bad mouth the dogs much except when the male was guarding the car which is understandable. Today I was watching another episode of Miami and there were two pitties who got loose, went into someone's yard, tore into their bunny hutches and killed all but three rabbits. So of course they are aggressive, dangerous dogs *sigh*. The narrator tells that because pit bulls were bred as "savage fighting dogs" that they often attack animals and humans and that is why they are illegal in Miami. The ACO was saying "well the two pit bulls ripped open the cage and kil...murdered all the rabbits" (because of course the dogs are murderers now). So he busts out a big piece of wood and his catch pole, the wood is to block the dogs in case they charge him. Both dogs are laying down paying no attention to him by the way. So he SLOWLY catch poles them and the narrator says "although they *look* placid the ACO knows what these dogs are capable of" as the camera pans back to the dead rabbits. SO he catch poles them which they do not even react to, they get up and walk with him. He puts them away and then says "well we know they are aggressive by seeing what they did to the rabbits, the obviously didn't want them for food they just wanted to kill them" :rolleyes: Both dogs were PTS because they are banned.

So now anyone watching that show that had no opinion or an on the fence opinion about pit bulls knows they are vicious murderers. They also now know that dogs who kill bunnies are going to soon turn to people and than animals aggression is the same as people aggression. Thank guys!

What's even crazier is that on a different episode of the same show a Rottie Bit on of the ACOs while he was petting a female Rottie that came in with the Rottie that bit. You could tell the dog was going to bite, he froze, gave whale eyes and puckered his lips before biting. The ACO needed stitches but they decided not to put him down but to put him in training. OKay I gugess, he had just gotten there, was in a kennel with another dog and in a new situation being leaned over by a man, fine. The trainer focused on dominance. A while later the ACO went to meet the dog again who was now a supposedly reformed dog (he's in a Rottie rescue at this time). The ACO and a foster parent I guess were sitting a bench while the ACO was petting him and they were talking about how good he looked and the do suddenly turns and grabs the ACO's arm and the ACO goes falling off the bench. He was bleeding again. This time the dog gave NO warning signs (good job trainer dude!). This dog is once again spared from being PTS.

So they let a dog who bites someone twice, once without warning and even the warnings the first time were subtle (no growling, snarling or showing teeth) live and they dub two pit bulls vicious murderers for hunting rabbits, two dogs who showed no aggression towards and person and have them put down. WTF?

I hate that show, I want them to start showing more Animal Precinct, they like bullies. One of the ACOs adores them, he always talks about how beautiful they are and sweet. I love that show.

okay that's enough out of me /rant.
 

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I no longer watch AP because of the close ties to HSUS and common theme of anti breeder, pro BSL garbage that is often to be found there. No thanks.
 

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I like Animal Precinct. But I don't watch the others anymore. I have seen those episodes the OP describes, and I also thought it was ridiculous that they were putting down perfectly nice pit bulls, but allowing an obviously unstable rottweiler to live.
 

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I love animal cops shows... I learned almost all the stuff I know about puppy mills there [before I started researching]. the only reason the pits were put down is to comply with the law.

HoundedByHounds... how can they be anti-breeder if they have shows ABOUT breeding dogs? [I forget what it's called but uh... yeah, hello?]
 

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If you know anything about reptiles the Detroit one will make you cringe too. Apparently you can't own ANY kind of reptiles in Detroit. Watching the shelter try to care for them was really depressing. Never mind watching them try to remove them.

If you're going to ban something with no basis on fact, at least teach your officers to handle said banned animals...

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I love animal cops shows... I learned almost all the stuff I know about puppy mills there [before I started researching]. the only reason the pits were put down is to comply with the law.

HoundedByHounds... how can they be anti-breeder if they have shows ABOUT breeding dogs? [I forget what it's called but uh... yeah, hello?]
I believe the show you are referring to is "That's My Baby!" where they show the whelping/birthing of some litter and its growth. There is also "Breed All About It" where they talk about a certain breed of dog, and talk to breeders of that breed, etc. I haven't seen either of these shows in a long time, but I think they are on during the afternoon while I am at work.

With the Miami show, their law requires that perfectly nice dogs who have not done anything wrong be either killed or moved out of the county, while a rottweiler who has proven itself to be unsafe is allowed to live. That is unfair.

Also on the Miami show there was one episode where an ACO of all people was saying how pit bulls have locking jaws, and they just snap. You'd think that an ACO would be more educated than that. :rolleyes:
 

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Kayota...your tone leaves something to be desired.

Their ties to H$U$, and various other AR groups, makes them a network I am not interested in watching. That is MY choice.
 

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IME, ACO's are notorious for their lack of knowledge about even the simplest canine, and feline behaviors and care...it's really kind of sad. But given what they pay them and such I am not suprised. I wish they'd put more money into education and less into catch poles.
 

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H$U$ is a major sponsor of their PetExpo event. H$U$ annual wacko awards show...Genesis Awards is also prominently featured on the network...you need only check the networks website to see how tight the two are.
 

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I no longer watch AP because of the close ties to HSUS and common theme of anti breeder, pro BSL garbage that is often to be found there. No thanks.
Wait HSUS is pro-BSL or have you've seen that stuff (pro-BSl sentiment) on Animal Precinct?

I was not aware of their ties with the HSUS, I had noticed some "don't buy from breeders" comments but I figured quite a few rescue workers would feel that way.

I really do enjoy that show though, I like the ACOs for the most part and have not seen anything that makes me upset that the ACOs do. It's a shame they are connected to such an organization, do you know what sort of connection they have exactly, does one give funding or something?

EDIT: Sorry, you posted while I posted, so you answered that. What a shame, the only one who seems to do things fairly is connecting with a-holes *sigh*.

the only reason the pits were put down is to comply with the law.
It didn't really bother me that the dogs were put down (well it DID but that's not what bothered me about the show) what bothered me was how they spent the whole time making the two dogs out to be vicious when they killed rabbits. I mean It's awful that they died but jeez, do you know how many dogs would have done the same thing? They would have been in chew toy wonderland! and do you think if almost any other breed had done that they would have focussed that much on the dogs being aggressive? I doubt it, they probably would have evaluated the dog for adoption not told everyone he was dangerous because he killed bunnies. I'd say they were just trying to make it so people thought they were aggressive and would not be upset when they were put down. If they had shown the ACO mentioning that a lot of dogs will go after rabbits and that's why it's important to keep the dogs from getting loose and showed him catching the dogs without mention of how aggressive they really are even though they are not acting aggressive (most likely they were not aggressive, the second one was not even slightly worried about the catch pole and while the ACO checked out the bunnies she stood patiently by his side sniffing the ground, I wonder if they held the dogs to see if owners showed up) people would have been upset by the stupidity of the BSL because two normal dogs are being killed for no reason, so they had to make the dogs out as vicious beasts just waiting to turn from rabbits to people to keep people from being upset by the show/Miami laws and make people feel the dogs deserved death.

The lies are what bothered me, different dogs in the same situation would not have been made out that way unless those people are really just that stupid.
 

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This law where they SENSELESSLY put down GOOD dogs sometimes, is out of wack and this proves how this 'ban' is nothing but BS.

I live in Broward, I have friends that live in dade they cannot afford housing here, so they illegally keep their pets, their FAMILY MEMBERS in dade.

But the not so good guys, drug dealers, ect? Now you see the rottweiler breed becoming more popular in dade. And some are just too stubborn to move on to a different breed so, they who can afford it, move to where? BROWARD, and they come here, and now we have an epic dog fighting problem, like Dade. Who still has this problem, now they're just hiding it better, because of the ban. The foreclosure problem south florida is facing is making it even easier, because now they have lots more of empty property to choose from.

This ban does not hurt the bad guys.

Why even WITH a breed ban are there more dog attacks in Dade than Broward, even though Dade has the pit bull ban?

Miami Dade County has had a pit bull ban in place for nearly 2 decades.

Terrier: 108
Labrador mix: 95
Shepherd mix: 90
Mixed breed: 81
German shepherd: 53
Chow mix: 50
Boxer: 39
Rottweiler: 33
Pit bull: 32
American bulldog: 30


Broward County Animal Control: 616 bites

Broward County does not have a pit bull ban.

Pit bull: 182
Labrador retriever: 50
German shepherd: 40
Rottweiler : 36
Shepherd: 29
Chow chow: 23
Bulldog: 17
Boxer: 14
Unknown (mixed): 14
Jack Russell Terrier: 13


Quoting Reggin:
''Plain and simple.... banning one breed is not going to eliminate dog bites, PERIOD. You ban one breed... and then another breed is gonna be on top. Might as well ban all dogs.''
 

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Wait HSUS is pro-BSL or have you've seen that stuff (pro-BSl sentiment) on Animal Precinct?

I was not aware of their ties with the HSUS, I had noticed some "don't buy from breeders" comments but I figured quite a few rescue workers would feel that way.

I really do enjoy that show though, I like the ACOs for the most part and have not seen anything that makes me upset that the ACOs do. It's a shame they are connected to such an organization, do you know what sort of connection they have exactly, does one give funding or something?

EDIT: Sorry, you posted while I posted, so you answered that. What a shame, the only one who seems to do things fairly is connecting with a-holes *sigh*.



It didn't really bother me that the dogs were put down (well it DID but that's not what bothered me about the show) what bothered me was how they spent the whole time making the two dogs out to be vicious when they killed rabbits. I mean It's awful that they died but jeez, do you know how many dogs would have done the same thing? They would have been in chew toy wonderland! and do you think if almost any other breed had done that they would have focussed that much on the dogs being aggressive? I doubt it, they probably would have evaluated the dog for adoption not told everyone he was dangerous because he killed bunnies. I'd say they were just trying to make it so people thought they were aggressive and would not be upset when they were put down. If they had shown the ACO mentioning that a lot of dogs will go after rabbits and that's why it's important to keep the dogs from getting loose and showed him catching the dogs without mention of how aggressive they really are even though they are not acting aggressive (most likely they were not aggressive, the second one was not even slightly worried about the catch pole and while the ACO checked out the bunnies she stood patiently by his side sniffing the ground, I wonder if they held the dogs to see if owners showed up) people would have been upset by the stupidity of the BSL because two normal dogs are being killed for no reason, so they had to make the dogs out as vicious beasts just waiting to turn from rabbits to people to keep people from being upset by the show/Miami laws and make people feel the dogs deserved death.

The lies are what bothered me, different dogs in the same situation would not have been made out that way unless those people are really just that stupid.
According this whole logic then my dachshund who killed a kitten is going to turn on me :rolleyes:. But this logic only applies for pit bulls to them I guess.
 

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I watch Animal Precinct, but that's the only one that really interests me - they don't hav Animal Cops Phoenix on much or I'd watch that too.

I wonder, if those hadn't been pitbulls but had been BEAGLES or another type of hound that killed all the bunnies...would it have been a vicious bad dog? I doubt it, since beagles and hounds just like bunnies.
I guess some of these people don't see the terrier in "pitbulls" - and don't think they would have the prey drive - mine would LOVE to get a hold of a "fuzzy rat" (as quoted by another member) or a rabbit - doesn't make them bloodthirsty killing machines.

My local animal control officer and I had a talk while I was donating food to the shelter. She asked what kind of dogs I had, and I cringed a bit but told her. She said that out of all the dogs she catches all over the county they are the least of her worries.
 

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IME, ACO's are notorious for their lack of knowledge about even the simplest canine, and feline behaviors and care....

A few months ago I took a found dog to the shelter (it was literally in the middle of traffic, happy as could be). She was a Border Collie and, after a quick bits check, I told them female. The employee the desk had called to come get the dog smugly asked me 'well how do you know it's not a neutered male?' with a smirk. And I had to point out that the dog had no penis. He turned red and walked out without another word:rolleyes:
 

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^^^ :rofl1:


I was wondering about the Phoenix one, I've only seen like three episodes and nothing turned me off there either. But they almost NEVER show it, has anyone seen how they feel about pitties?
 

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I stopped watching Miami... I just get mad when I watch that show... I like the NY one though.

I didn't know animal planet was tied to hsus or anti-breeder. They have a lot of "breeder" type shows. They alway seem to have conformation shows on, breed all about it, and the whelping one(I never watched that one though...), there are a few more but I can't remember right now. I always thought the anti-breeder was just on animal cops, which made sense to me because it's about dogs that end up in shelters and LOTS of shelter workers are anti-breeder....
 

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I was wondering about the Phoenix one, I've only seen like three episodes and nothing turned me off there either. But they almost NEVER show it, has anyone seen how they feel about pitties?
The first episode I saw showed them seizing a pit bull for a bite case, and ruling that he was to be euthanized. There was another two they seized in a bite case as well, one of them was euthanized, the other had to wear a muzzle at all times when they were out in public. In fact, the whole episode was them seizing dogs from bite cases, some APBT, some not. I stopped watching the show because none of it was about rescue.
 

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The employee the desk had called to come get the dog smugly asked me 'well how do you know it's not a neutered male?' with a smirk. And I had to point out that the dog had no penis. He turned red and walked out without another word
:rofl1::rofl1::rofl1:
 

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didn't know animal planet was tied to hsus or anti-breeder. They have a lot of "breeder" type shows. They alway seem to have conformation shows on, breed all about it, and the whelping one(I never watched that one though...), there are a few more but I can't remember right now. I always thought the anti-breeder was just on animal cops, which made sense to me because it's about dogs that end up in shelters and LOTS of shelter workers are anti-breeder....
Oh wait i thought she was saying AP for Animal Precinct, now animal Planet, perhaps that is the confusion we are all having lol. Yeah animal Planet did have "That's My Baby", thank god they got rid of that before I found this forum, they were all BYBs for the most part! It used to be my favorite show :eek:
The first episode I saw showed them seizing a pit bull for a bite case, and ruling that he was to be euthanized. There was another two they seized in a bite case as well, one of them was euthanized, the other had to wear a muzzle at all times when they were out in public. In fact, the whole episode was them seizing dogs from bite cases, some APBT, some not. I stopped watching the show because none of it was about rescue.
well that's annoying, I have not seen any like that but like I said I've only seen three. But i did notice none of the animals were from neglect/abuse cases, they were all strays, loose, trapped or injured animals (usually cats stuck in places or animals encountering a cactus).
 

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