American Justice: so much is wrong with this...

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  1. Miakoda

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    17-year-old sexual assault victim could face charges for tweeting names of attackers

    A Kentucky girl who was sexually assaulted could face contempt of court charges after she tweeted the names of her juvenile attackers.

    Savannah Dietrich, the 17-year-old victim, was frustrated by a plea deal reached late last month by the two boys who assaulted her, and took to Twitter to expose them--violating a court order to keep their names confidential.

    "There you go, lock me up," Dietrich tweeted after naming the perpetrators. "I'm not protecting anyone that made my life a living Hell." Her Twitter account has since been closed.

    Attorneys for the attackers asked a Jefferson District Court judge to hold Dietrich in contempt for lashing out on Twitter. She could face up to 180 days in jail and a $500 fine if convicted. The boys have yet to be sentenced for the August 2011 attack.

    "So many of my rights have been taken away by these boys," Dietrich told Louisville's Courier-Journal. "I'm at the point, that if I have to go to jail for my rights, I will do it. If they really feel it's necessary to throw me in jail for talking about what happened to me as opposed to throwing these boys in jail for what they did to me, then I don't understand justice."

    Dietrich was assaulted by the pair after passing out at a party. They later shared photos of the assault with friends.

    "For months, I cried myself to sleep," Dietrich said. "I couldn't go out in public places."

    On June 26, the boys pleaded guilty to first-degree sexual abuse and misdemeanor voyeurism. Terms of their plea agreement were not released.

    "They got off very easy," Dietrich, who says she was unaware of the plea agreement before it was announced in court, said in her interview with the newspaper.

    "They said I can't talk about it or I'll be locked up," Dietrich tweeted after hearing, according to the paper. "So I'm waiting for them to read this and lock me up."

    "[Protecting rapists] is more important than getting justice for the victim in Louisville," she added.

    A hearing for the contempt of court charge is scheduled for July 30. Attorneys for Dietrich want it open to the media, while the boys lawyers want it closed.

    Both the Gannett-owned Courier-Journal and Dietrich's attorneys "have filed motions to open the proceedings, arguing she has a First Amendment right to speak about what happened in her case," the newspaper said.

    An online petition asking the judge to throw out the charges against Dietrich, launched Saturday, has already accumulated hundreds of signatures.

    "[She] should not be legally barred from talking about what happened to her," Gregg Leslie, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, told the Associated Press. "That's a wide-ranging restraint on speech."
     
  2. Miakoda

    Miakoda New Member

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    So let's get this straight:

    If you are a "juevenile", you can rape, sexually assault, and sodomize others, particularly those who are of age, and then you can make plea deals and have your names kept out of the public media, as well as have a court order barring the person you assaulted from ever being able to mention the incident or your names to anyone else.

    So to sum it up: If you are a person who gets raped, sexually assaulted, or sodomized, beware that you can and will go to jail if you talk about it. After all, the person who did the crime should be protected for their own safety after making such a harmless mistake.

    My opinion? Good for this girl! She ought to hire a plane to write the names in the sky. She ought to blast their names all over the internet. She ought to make signs and put them up all over town. I'd support her all the way.
     
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    I agree 100% Mia. That is just so screwed up! Yup...our "justice" system is totally backward. Those criminals ought to be hung. Why shouldn't it be known who did such a monstrous thing? The public ought to know for everyone's safety. First, the law and justice system doesn't protect citizens from dangerous monsters. Next they want to prevent citizens from protecting themselves and others. And they are denying free speech.
     
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    And they wonder why so many women are afraid to come forward....

    Sad, just sad....
     
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    Renee750il Felurian

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    Oh, I would NOT want to be the judge who sent her to jail for that . . .

    Talk about a perversion of justice.
     
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    This pisses me off to no end.

    Who gives a royal eff if those boys want privacy or anonymity? They certainly didn't give the victim that choice.

    Glad she's standing up for herself and wish I'd had the same amount of guts. It is unreal what people will blame the victim for, how they will hold that person accountable, when their rights to their own body and choices were denied them by someone else.
     
  7. Kaydee

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    I think that when a "child" commits a violent crime they've given up their right to anonymity. A teen who rapes or kills should be tried as an adult. Maybe some would consider that harsh, but even at 12 or 13 they definitely have a clear reasoning of right and wrong.
     
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    That's sad.

    What has this world come to?
     
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    Contempt motion against juvenile Savannah Dietrich, who posted the names of her juvenile attackers online after they pled guilty of raping her and texting pictures of the rape to their little friends then plea bargained, has been dropped.

    "Chris Klein, an attorney for one of the boys, said publicizing their names may create problems for them in the future. 'There's always that possibility and in any type of scenario like this you run that risk,' he said. 'Now whether both these boys can overcome those hurdles, it's too early to determine that.'"

    Gee...maybe they should have thought about that before raping someone? Just a thought...

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/contempt-motion-dropped-ky-teenager-16839842#.UA6GjvWqYd5

     
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    Bahamutt99 Dafuq?

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    I have no words. Well, that's not entirely true. I do have words, but they would mostly come out like ****ing little rapist asshole **** ****s.
     
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    oh, der, I should read the whole thread...
     
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    She won't face charges, but she still isn't allowed to share their names it sounds like...
     
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    And she should still scream their names from the rooftops, and plaster signs all over the city. They committed a big boy crime, they can do the big boy time.
     
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    as a MAN, i am extremely offended by the way those boys were let off the hook. if it were my daughter there is a very real chance i'd be getting charged in connection with the disappearance of the boys & the judge.
     
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    Wait, they can't release the names of the criminals because they are minors, but they can plaster the victim's name all over the news... but she's a minor too? :confused:

    And yeah, I know one girl who didn't report when she got raped because she was 18 and the rapist was 17. The sole reason she didn't is because she was 18 and the rapist was 17, so her name would have been public and his name would have been confidential. It's so messed up.
     
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    the family agreed to it because they wanted the situation brought under public scrutiny
     
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    In GENERAL, I agree with keeping minor's identities hidden but this is a case to me where that is not appropriate.
     
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    For anyone who's interested, the names and pictures of her rapists have gotten out and Tumblr has taken it on to spread the word. Their names and pictures have been circulating a couple of days :)
     
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    I'm not sure why they weren't tried as adults. I've seen so many lesser charges as well as murder bumped up, as young as 13.

    Have to wonder if it's the "boys will be boys" attitude that still does exist, no matter what we'd like to think.
     

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