Alert Barking

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Henderson will bark at anyone who approaches the house, which i am ok with, but what methods can i use to teach him that it is ok and to stop barking? I have thought to let him bark a little and tell him enough and if he doesnt stop to remove him(different room or crate) for a couple minutes, but i dont know if thats the right method.

thanks for your help.

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That sounds good to me, just walk him into a back room and wait for 20-30 seconds and then bring him back out. I'd keep a slip lead or something near you so that you can quickly leash and remove if he continues barking after the "enough". Also keep some treats on you at all times so that if he does stop after the "enough" you can reward him right away for listening to you.
 
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How easy to train is he? If easy, try this method. First teach him to speak, make sure you choose a hand/visual command as well. Then teach him "quiet/stop/shhh or whatever term you want to use, along with a hand signal for that command. This method does work quite well with easy dogs.
Mine were not so easy. In fact each have different reasons for barking and respond to different techniques. One only barks because the others do, one barks out of insecurity, so calming words and petting her work well. Praising her when she stops is important. The third barks out of dominance and I had to purchase a no bark collar to have any effect on her. I take it off at night so she still acts as a guard dog.
I love the collar I have now. I tried several and this one works and has lasted a very long time. Check here for a review of this product. www.barkcollarsite.com
Good luck. Barking can be a tough one.
 

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how easy is he to train? he picks stuff up fast but gets bored easy. He only barks (and i mean only, never barks when playing or any other time) when someone is coming by/towards the house or he thinks someone is(doorbell on TV sets him off everytime). im not sure i could teach him to speak because he never barks other than this. When someone is there and he is barking he is....scared? he wont take treats and i cant distract him.

This is not something i want to totally stop. I want him to bark when someone is coming, but i want to be able to make him stop when i have determined everything is ok...

also, im not willing to try an ecollar or antibark collar, first because i want him to bark to alert me of something i havent noticed and second he is very...soft(rhodesian ridgeback) and harsh corrections are not going to work on him.

Thanks for the response and any more experience with this would be great.
 

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Alert barking is something that I certainly wouldn't want to suppress with punishment or correction so I think your wise to avoid any type of correctional collar, it may limit his barking, but it could have undesirable side effects (something punishment has a long track record of producing) such as conditioning your guy to be more timid around visitors, or actually become nervous/ defensive or he might not really care about the correction at all and his behavior might just stay unchanged.

Both Duke and Mavrick alert bark, so it's a daily thing here. I have lots of kibble stashed around the house. I'm happy with a few alert barks, but I don't need to hear about it forever, so after the first 2-3 barks I say something to get their attention (it seems to have become "Thanks guys") and then start dishing out treats to the first dog that runs over to me. Which is usually Duke as we have a bigger reinforcement history together, where as Mavrick has only lived with me for 6 weeks. As soon as Mavrick see's Duke getting treats he could care less about alerting and runs over to get some treats.

At that point I usually have both lie down next to me and just feed. Sometimes either one will alert for a moment, I just cue "Shush" (which I have previously associated with them being quiet) and continue to feed a pretty high rate of reinforcement.

If someone is actually coming down the stairs (as we live in a basement apartment) then I usually have a leash on Duke (who has a lovely behavior of charging people with a high pitched insecure howl/bark) and feed them both a very high rate of reinforcement and then let them go visit.

This works well for me, but I've really had to make sure I have a good supply of kibble and bits of yummier stuff easily accessaible. I have seen alot of improvement over the last 6 weeks, specifically with Duke's charging behaviour almost disappearing (which we got lots of practice with over the holidays) and now he just holds his down until the person is in plain view (at which point he is excited to run up to see them).

I do not know about you but I'd rather get a lot of chances to reinforce, bark 2-3 times then stop then have to constantly get up and do a time-out scenario. I think a time-out scenario would be a great addition to a training plan but I'm not sure how quickly your dog would make the connection, but that’s purely just my 2 cents I don't have al ot of experience with changing alert barking other then with my two.

Lastly just wanted to say, teaching your dog to bark on cue is a longer process that I avoided as both Duke and Mavrick pick up on things quickly and its not a behavior at this time I want being offered at me, it's certainly a well known way to get rid of an unwanted behavior, by putting it on cue and then only cueing it when you want, but its also a long process that I didn't feel like pursuing.

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I have a 5 month Sheltie and she is the real farm dog type.
Shelties can be real barkers and so she does. Its mostly Alert barking.
Time out is good but holding hand over eyes and turning them away from action is better.
You need to use a verbal with this like "quiet", "hush", etc.
Of course you got to be in quick reach with either technique.
The real problem with Alert barking and includes my Sheltie is when not in reach.
I am now considering a spray collar when she is backyard {squirels} or when we walk on the street {anything that moves}.
Anyone have good recomendations on bark control collar ???
 

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Anyone have good recomendations on bark control collar ???
I would never recommend putting a bark collar on a 5 month old puppy. It can be extremely detrimental to their early socialization, the risk is just way too big.

I CAN, however, recommend about a dozen trainers in the Austin area who can work with this issue in ways that are not only more effective, but also safer, than a bark collar.
 

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