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hollysmom

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Hi -
I am the mom of a 6 year old female German Shepherd. About a month ago she started some behavior that she hasn't stopped yet and I am doing some research before heading to the vet.

Like I said, about a month ago, she started licking her rear end. Not all day, but mostly in the evenings while hanging out with us. She'll go on with it for some time.

I've read some about the adrenal glands, and I thought that might be the problem. However, she doesn't do any of the things that might point to that being the problem. There is no pain upon pooping, she doesn't seem to have any pain at all from it that we can tell. She doesn't 'scoot' along on her bottom. But she does seem to lick where she has been sitting, and if she sits on a wood floor, I can see some moisture there. She doesn't have a smell.

She does eat deer poop, cat poop, bird poop - we live in the country and she eats any kind of poop she gets to before we see what she is doing and stop her.

She is a very well behaved dog, and is trained (career changed guide dog in her previous life) only goes to the bathroom when we tell her. She is regulated to going twice a day (poop) and five times a day for pee. In the last month she has gone once in the house during the night, which is unheard of for her. It was so much more than she usually goes (about 4 days worth), and looked much different than her usual poop - six big piles, dark and soft, but not runny. It still had form and was easy to clean up (this is along the lines of TMI but without this info I'm not giving you complete info!). And she has had very yellow runny diarreha once this month, but thankfully that was outside and her next poop was fine. Besides these two incidences, her poop is not a lot and she doesn't seem to have any pain upon going or put off going.

I'm wondering if she might have worms from the other poop she eats outside? Seems like that might be an obvious answer, but she's lived with us for four years doing the same thing, and hasn't had this behavior before this. You'd think worms would have shown up before now.

She is mostly an inside dog - goes to work with me every day. Is never outside by herself. Eats 1 cup of Innova (green bag) in the morning and 1 cup at night. She goes walking with us, but isn't too active. Carries about 10 extra pounds more than she should, but if we exercise her too much she stiffens up and can't get up our stairs. So we keep her active each day, but not too active - not much running or jumping. Just walking.

Other than this rear end licking, she is the perfect dog. I need to get this figured out so she can be back to her normal self again.
Any ideas or direction of what might be wrong here are much appreciated.

Thanks,
Cindy
 

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Could be anal glands or worms . I'd vet her and take in a stool sample .
 

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She needs to have her anal glands checked. A dog doesn't have to exhibit all the symptoms of anal gland problems, just one & that's exactly what you're dog is doing. If left untreated, these glands can actually get so full that they will abcess out at some location & talk about painful.

At the same time I also suggest just going ahead & have the vet get a fresh fecal sample & checking it while you wait.
 

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Sounds like I would take the dog too the vet. But again I take Sasha in just for anything. Hubby gets real mad but what can I say I love mmy girl.
 

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Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I will take a fecal sample in with me too. I want to avoid her being in pain, so will make an appt as soon as our can get her in. I take her to a vet that is only available on Tues & Wed - she is more holistic in approach, and doesn't push meds unless they are really required. I really like her and am willing to alter our schedule so I can see her if it isn't an emergency situation. There are other vets at the same clinic, but I really like the approach of this vet best.
Thanks again,
Cindy
 

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I also vote for a vet visit and have the anal glands checked,,you don't want to end up with perianal fistula's which can be a nightmare, I've been there done that with 2 GSD's ..and alot of times can start with anal gland problems.

Mine never 'scooted' either, but licking is a high indication of gland problem going on.

Good luck, keep us updated
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When Cider had an anal gland problem she was a bum muncher, no scooting, pain anything else, but in the space of a week she went from casual licking to obsessive having to pry her head off..
Sadly for us though, she realized after that she had a bum, and enjoys cleaning it for herself often, so I am paranoid and constantly checking her to make sure we aren't going down the road to problems.
 

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My preferred vet no longer works at the client I was taking her to. It appears she has a mobile vet operation now. I haven't had a return call from her yet (called her Friday and left a message), so if I haven't heard from her by end of today, I'll take Holly back to her original vet, who is closer at hand and has a regular office.

Mobile vet is OK with me, but calling back is kind of essential, so although I really like this vet, not calling back is not good with me in regards to giving good service. I want Holly looked at within the next few days.

I'll keep you all posted on the results. From all your comments I'm thinking glands, but I've had many dogs over my life time and this has never come up before on any of them. Are some breeds more suseptible than others to this problem? Is there something that causes this that I can change?
Cindy
 

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don't put it off for to long,,infected anal glands can result in fistula's and you don't want to go that route.

GSD's tend to have anal gland problems more than people realize. Why? Who knows, some feel it's the low slung tail, not getting 'air' to the area, diet, genetic,,who knows..

Depending on exactly what it is, I could give you a better answer as to how to maintain , get rid of,,etc..Let us know what happens..
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anal glands?

Ok, sorry it took me a bit to get back and post an update.

I took Holly to the vet, and they think they caught it in time. She has a bacterial infection of one side of the glans. They expressed both sides - one was really OK (stinky though:)) but while she was there they went ahead and emptied it, and the other actually had a small amount of bloody discharge when expressed. So now Holly is on antibiotics and I will take her back on the 26th for a recheck.
The vet felt like we caught the problem in time. He didn't think it was a typical glan blockage problem, more of a bacterial problem that settled in the glan area on the one side. He is hoping there are no complications.

Holly is six years old. She hasn't had a bacterial infection before. I'm wondering if it is possible that she picked it up at the dog washing place. As a gift to me, my daughter took Holly for a day of pampering about two weeks before she started to lick this area. Coincidence or do you think this could have been a source of the bacteria?

The antibiotics are huge!! Luckily Holly eats them like she would a snack. I don't know (and don't think I want to know) how they taste, but she doesn't seem to mind eating them. Sure makes it much easier on us both for her to eat them as needed like she would a cookie (dog treat style cookie that is).

It appeared she started feeling better before I fed her the second pill, and has stopped the licking altogether. So I sure hope this is the cure and there are no further medical issues along this line. We'll see after the 26th.

Thanks for the encouragement to get her to the vet. That was exactly the right thing for us to do.

Cindy
 

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glad you got to the bottom of things.. ya know anal glands are such tricky buggers, and honestly she could have picked up an infection from just about anything.

It sounds like the antibiotics are definately kicking in and since she's stopped licking the area that is a really good sign!
continued good health!
Diane
 

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