We were suppose to pick up a female yorkie maltese from the breeder today. Please no flames on the type of dog. I got a call yesterday that the puppy has a cold, and they want to hold on to her for another week. So how concerned should I be about buying her? I really want her, but husband doesn't want to buy a puppy that will be giving us lots of vet bills. If she has a cold now, is she more likely to get sick in the future? Should I ask for a written 30 day guarantee on her in case she does get sick again, and heaven forbid wouldn't make it? Help please!
? about buying new puppy with a cold-HELP
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I would go to the breeeder today as you planned and looked at the puppy yourself. Just to make sure it is not the breeder's trick who may wait for an answer from another buyer willing to pay more, or relative or whatever, and wants to get some time before taking decision about the puppy's future. Go and see the pup yourself, see if she looks sick, then ask the breeder to tell in details what is wrong with her. If she is really sick, I agree with others, it's probably better not to take the puppy.
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I agree. Dogs don’t get colds.
If you are wise you will find someone else to buy a dog from, preferably someone who does the appropriate health testing of the parents and who is interested in improving the breed, not making money, or you will probably have problems. 30 days to be honest is a super crappy guarantee. What happens in 2 years when you find out she has a problem with her eyes? Good breeders test for eye problems before breeding both the male & female.
No flaming, I will just say you can find a Maltese mix at a shelter or rescue for $100 which includes spay/netuer, shots, fecal test/wormer, and usually a microchip as well. If you are dead set on buying from a breeder, why don’t you buy a Maltese from a responsible breeder like these people: http://www.chrismanmaltese.com/ or these people: http://www.divinemaltese.com/. Or buy a Yorkie: http://www.blumoonyorkies.com/
I try to encourage people to buy from a good breeder because I don’t want them to make the same mistake that I did, nor end up with the costly vet bills, as well as the constantly sick dog that I did. Be wise, if you want a dog that won’t cost a lot in vet bills, I would suggest finding a good rescue or a good breeder to get your dog from. Both will stand behind their dogs, and will take the dogs back always.
Sorry Raw but I must disagree if the breeder is telling her that the dog has "a cold" she is lying. Dogs do not get colds. It could be an upper respitory infection which is REALLY bad, especially for puppies and it is VERY uncommon, even in the shelter enviroment, so that would clue me in that this is not a good breeder.
If you are wise you will find someone else to buy a dog from, preferably someone who does the appropriate health testing of the parents and who is interested in improving the breed, not making money, or you will probably have problems. 30 days to be honest is a super crappy guarantee. What happens in 2 years when you find out she has a problem with her eyes? Good breeders test for eye problems before breeding both the male & female.
No flaming, I will just say you can find a Maltese mix at a shelter or rescue for $100 which includes spay/netuer, shots, fecal test/wormer, and usually a microchip as well. If you are dead set on buying from a breeder, why don’t you buy a Maltese from a responsible breeder like these people: http://www.chrismanmaltese.com/ or these people: http://www.divinemaltese.com/. Or buy a Yorkie: http://www.blumoonyorkies.com/
I try to encourage people to buy from a good breeder because I don’t want them to make the same mistake that I did, nor end up with the costly vet bills, as well as the constantly sick dog that I did. Be wise, if you want a dog that won’t cost a lot in vet bills, I would suggest finding a good rescue or a good breeder to get your dog from. Both will stand behind their dogs, and will take the dogs back always.
Sorry Raw but I must disagree if the breeder is telling her that the dog has "a cold" she is lying. Dogs do not get colds. It could be an upper respitory infection which is REALLY bad, especially for puppies and it is VERY uncommon, even in the shelter enviroment, so that would clue me in that this is not a good breeder.
If you buy a dog from a breeder that is selling mixed as designer dogs. well..
and if you buy one that has a repsitory infection you will be getting a double dose. I wish i could find the thread about the guy that went ahead and got the petstore puppy we all warned him about. I think his vet bills ran into and above a thousand. His nice german shepard puppy looked like walking death for a very very long time. THe respitory infections that are happening now are antibiotic resistant. THe puppy immune system already comprimised when it should be growing at a very fast rate. lastly you are supporting people that are doing this and by supporting them you keep them doing this therefor MORE puppies are "overprocessed" and they suffer. SO PLEAAAASE do not support designer dogs..go to www.petfinder.com and do the right thing if you want some love in your life.
and if you buy one that has a repsitory infection you will be getting a double dose. I wish i could find the thread about the guy that went ahead and got the petstore puppy we all warned him about. I think his vet bills ran into and above a thousand. His nice german shepard puppy looked like walking death for a very very long time. THe respitory infections that are happening now are antibiotic resistant. THe puppy immune system already comprimised when it should be growing at a very fast rate. lastly you are supporting people that are doing this and by supporting them you keep them doing this therefor MORE puppies are "overprocessed" and they suffer. SO PLEAAAASE do not support designer dogs..go to www.petfinder.com and do the right thing if you want some love in your life.
something sounds wrong about all this!
firstly this is NOT a responsible breeder as obvious by her breeding mixes.
Secondly 30 days is a CRAPPY health guarentee, and the fact that you have to ask?! for it?! thats insane, a responsible breeder will offer at least a 2yr guarentee on their pups. small breeds are prone to MANY heaht probems that can cause huge vets bills that wont usually even show sighns untill the dog is 2+ yrs old (ie heart problems, patella luxation and more)
third, as was said, dogs dont get colds, this "cold" could be any number of things and in a small breed its not usually a good outcome. i fostered a byb puppy store puppy with a "cold" who after 2 weeks of fighting it dide in her sleep from severe phneumonia, the vet of the store kept insisting the puppy just had a cold, i had her in my care one night and she passed, an autopsy at the e-vet showed shed drowned in her own lung fluid.
"colds" never end well!
if your 100% certain you want a yorkie or maltese mix, go to your local shelter and adopt one form there!
otherwise dont fall for this mixed breed for money fad and decide which breed your most interested in and why and find a responsible respectable breeder who will not take you for every penny then leave you high and dry in a couple of years.
firstly this is NOT a responsible breeder as obvious by her breeding mixes.
Secondly 30 days is a CRAPPY health guarentee, and the fact that you have to ask?! for it?! thats insane, a responsible breeder will offer at least a 2yr guarentee on their pups. small breeds are prone to MANY heaht probems that can cause huge vets bills that wont usually even show sighns untill the dog is 2+ yrs old (ie heart problems, patella luxation and more)
third, as was said, dogs dont get colds, this "cold" could be any number of things and in a small breed its not usually a good outcome. i fostered a byb puppy store puppy with a "cold" who after 2 weeks of fighting it dide in her sleep from severe phneumonia, the vet of the store kept insisting the puppy just had a cold, i had her in my care one night and she passed, an autopsy at the e-vet showed shed drowned in her own lung fluid.
"colds" never end well!
if your 100% certain you want a yorkie or maltese mix, go to your local shelter and adopt one form there!
otherwise dont fall for this mixed breed for money fad and decide which breed your most interested in and why and find a responsible respectable breeder who will not take you for every penny then leave you high and dry in a couple of years.
The breeder does have a 2 year guarantee against congenital defects and behavioral problems. Her guarantee states 72 hours from other illensses. She did say on the phone she was going to neb the puppy, so I think that would be upper respitory. So this is very uncommon? Could this be a one time thing with this puppy, or would it be a continuing problem?
Angel, I know your intentions are good about getting a pup but I can't help but tell you that only BYB's breed these mixed breed designer dogs. If she has a pup with upper respiratory infection or kennel cough then I would stay away from this breeder. She obviously has it running rampant around her kennel. Also, a lifetime guarantee on her offspring is what should be in the contract. Responsible/reputable breeders will be there for the lifetime of the pups they produce. Alot of congenital defects don't usually show up right away and are most likely diagnosed by the time the dog turns two years, which by then the contract will be null and void..........I hope you change your mind and opt out of this decision, your husband is probably right and you should go with your gut feeling on this.
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As I told you it is VERY uncommon for a breeder to have upper respitory infections. Again, if you want to take the chance, I hope you have some $ saved up. There are breeders on this forum (responsible) so perhaps they could chime in and let you know how little this occurs. I volunteer at a shelter and even in the shelter environment URIs are not heard of. Just by knowing the puppy has a URI it is obvious this lady does not properly care for her puppies, because if she did, her pups wouldn’t be sick. If she can’t be bothered to even ensure the pups don’t get a URI, that says what she cares about ($). Steer clear, or be prepared for massive bills.
Got this off the internet:
What causes respiratory infections in pets?
Various harmful organisms like viruses and bacteria can cause upper respiratory infections in pets and the nose, eyes, throat and sinuses may all be involved. These may be contagious among pets, but the organisms that affect pets are usually different from those affecting humans so catching a virus from your pet, or the other way around, should not be a concern.
Viruses and bacteria will cause illness much more readily in pets with weakened immune systems caused by another illness, poor diet and unhealthy lifestyle or advanced age.
Scarier things it might be:
http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/breeding/herpes.htm
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Your best option for a maltese mix:
YOrkie/Maltese mix- 1 year old- no kids- because she is so tiny.. http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=7844362
6 year old: http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8132787
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8173715
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=7952840
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8183750 -in kill shelter
Or how about a pure bred Yorkie and a pure bred Maltese? (if you are in the FL area) http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6338305
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6323104
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8052721
http://search.petfinder.com/search/search.cgi?tmpl=1&exact=1&breed=Maltese&preview=1
http://search.petfinder.com/search/...Sex=&location=72204&preview=1&scope=2&x=0&y=0
I only listed the Yorkie/Maltese mixes. there are TONS Of shih tzu/maltese mixes, as well as lots of mixes who look like yorkie/maltese mixes but are just labeled "maltese mix". Also a lot of pure bred Maltese & I know there are a lot of pure bred Yorkies, one of my rescue friends rescues them left & right. I also didnt go through a lot of them, because I am at work...Also just an FYI, I did this according to distance from me you can go to petfinder.com though and do a search from your zip code. A good rescue will stand behind it's dogs, I know that the group I work with will always take back any dog, at any time, for any reason..
ETA-Tosca's mom is right, parvo usually takes 2 weeks to show up, distemper sometimes takes a month. RUN the other way!!
I also agree with the comment this could be distemper. Distemper is not pretty and I dont know of a single dog who has survived it
Also make sure that the breeder also runs a bile acids test, it is common in Yorkies: http://www.livershunt.com/
Got this off the internet:
What causes respiratory infections in pets?
Various harmful organisms like viruses and bacteria can cause upper respiratory infections in pets and the nose, eyes, throat and sinuses may all be involved. These may be contagious among pets, but the organisms that affect pets are usually different from those affecting humans so catching a virus from your pet, or the other way around, should not be a concern.
Viruses and bacteria will cause illness much more readily in pets with weakened immune systems caused by another illness, poor diet and unhealthy lifestyle or advanced age.
Scarier things it might be:
http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/breeding/herpes.htm
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Your best option for a maltese mix:
YOrkie/Maltese mix- 1 year old- no kids- because she is so tiny.. http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=7844362
6 year old: http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8132787
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8173715
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=7952840
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8183750 -in kill shelter
Or how about a pure bred Yorkie and a pure bred Maltese? (if you are in the FL area) http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6338305
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6323104
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8052721
http://search.petfinder.com/search/search.cgi?tmpl=1&exact=1&breed=Maltese&preview=1
http://search.petfinder.com/search/...Sex=&location=72204&preview=1&scope=2&x=0&y=0
I only listed the Yorkie/Maltese mixes. there are TONS Of shih tzu/maltese mixes, as well as lots of mixes who look like yorkie/maltese mixes but are just labeled "maltese mix". Also a lot of pure bred Maltese & I know there are a lot of pure bred Yorkies, one of my rescue friends rescues them left & right. I also didnt go through a lot of them, because I am at work...Also just an FYI, I did this according to distance from me you can go to petfinder.com though and do a search from your zip code. A good rescue will stand behind it's dogs, I know that the group I work with will always take back any dog, at any time, for any reason..
ETA-Tosca's mom is right, parvo usually takes 2 weeks to show up, distemper sometimes takes a month. RUN the other way!!
I also agree with the comment this could be distemper. Distemper is not pretty and I dont know of a single dog who has survived it
Also make sure that the breeder also runs a bile acids test, it is common in Yorkies: http://www.livershunt.com/
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Please Please listen to everyone don't buy this dog, every red flag is waving about this breeder/ Please believe me you will have many problems and high vet bills down the road. Save your money and search for a reputable breeder, please/ A reputable breeder doesn't mix dogs.I have a maltese if you want I can post some links on breeders on Malts and Yorkies..
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no sheet..that is exactly what i was thinking. I worked for REPutable kennel for 20 years. WE covered all the congenital diseases, but also that the puppies had had their shots on time, boosters ON TIME, and all that info went with the pet. If the puppy became ill for any reason (and in the 20 years i know of not one) we wanted to meet you where it was and take it to our vet. This is so like saying i saw a pack of cigarettes..should i smoke them? I don't mean to be blunt but that is the facts of it. The poor wee babe is sick, and if it is the respitory illness that we have all heard or experienced..you should have read what Barb had happen to her dogs from this, it's awful. And i am sorry that the puppy is sick, he/she might be the rest of her life. WE got a few members here with dogs that have had a long hard road to not near recovery. Supporting breeders like this is a crime against canines. I won't post again, for i am being redundant but oh my please dont support this.
check out this babya,,good luck chopsticks!!!!!!!!! will keep you in my prayers
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=7027312
check out this babya,,good luck chopsticks!!!!!!!!! will keep you in my prayers
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