A 'hypothetical' what breed would be best....

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I agree that an LGD would be an option.

I was wondering if Rotts would suit? Not so much recommending, as I don't know enough about them, but more bouncing an idea around for others. :D
 

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Keep in mind I won't need them to "herd" anything, LOL.......if/when this dream does come true, we'll most likely just have some goats and chickens, neither of which need herding.

BUT, the guardian aspect does sound very nice!
LGDs (Livestock Guardian Dogs) don't herd, hehe. That's what Border Collies are for. :cool: They protect the livestock.

Just as a point of record, goats are herded, just as chickens are. :) I have worked goats before
 

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I would go maremma over pyr based on the ones I've met. Pyrs are overbred here though and I've met some nasty pyrs. Just look into breeders well, imo.

Actually this is a situation that my dad is facing. He just bought over 20 acres and will be putting in a house next year there. It's GORGEOUS country but there's tons and tons of bobcat and coyote prints all over the land.

I'm seriously trying to talk him into a LGD to help protect the horses, cats, and papillons (hehe). And of course whatever else he puts out there. With him? Who knows. He'll probably end up with a small farm (he was a farm kid)
 

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I'm seriously trying to talk him into a LGD to help protect the horses, cats, and papillons (hehe). And of course whatever else he puts out there. With him? Who knows. He'll probably end up with a small farm (he was a farm kid)
Now you just need the Border Collie and sheep. :p
 

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LGDs (Livestock Guardian Dogs) don't herd, hehe. That's what Border Collies are for. :cool: They protect the livestock.

Just as a point of record, goats are herded, just as chickens are. :) I have worked goats before
Yes, but mine wouldn't need to be herded because they will be penned, LOL, or at least I think that's how it works. I doubt I would go with free range.

I guess with all the folks saying LGD, they are the ones for me to study up on further. :) Thanks guys!
 

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LGB is a Livestock Guardian Breed.
a Maremma is a breed of LGB, bred specifically to protect livestock (origionally sheep)
Maremma Sheepdog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thanks, Foxy. What beautiful dogs Maremmas seem to be. And they seem quite set on protecting whatever they're set to protect. Surely if they'd take care of penguins (PENGUINS?!?), papillons wouldn't present much challenge. Except maybe Mia.

Hmm. Maybe two Maremmas?
 

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Yes, but mine wouldn't need to be herded because they will be penned, LOL, or at least I think that's how it works. I doubt I would go with free range.
I know, I was just making the point that they can be. :p
 

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My exact thought!!! A Fila fits all the criteria you have, and more!
Are Filas the type to welcome other dogs onto the property? She mentioned wanting a dog that is not prone to having "issues" with other dogs or other people...kids playing with her kids. Are they apt to be highly suspicious of unfamiliar kids wrestling or running around with the family kids? Or not more than lots of other breeds?

Most dogs that were bred to guard something, I would think would be prone to some degree of suspicion of any novel, living thing coming onto the property...some more than others....not only by breed, but by individual. In fact, most dogs, regardless of breed will have some degree of suspicion of strangers coming around their place.

My GSD that we had when my kids were toddlers was wonderful with not only my kids, but their friends and even strangers that came around. If the stranger was friendly and seemed to have business at my house....workman coming to do something, delivery people, meter readers or whatever, he was great. He just watched and was very relaxed. When someone tried jimmying the door late one night, he knew that was a no no and went balistic at the front door. He was not dog aggressive, once he got neutered. (he was before)

Anyhow...that Marm sounds pretty nice. It's great that you're looking into it way ahead of time so you have plenty of time to go meet some, talk to people etc. From what I understand, which isn't that much, the best livestock guardian breeds....the ones that really take care of their flocks are raised with the livestock from a VERY early age....(3-4 weeks) They live with the sheep or whatever out in the barn and have minimal interaction with humans. But maybe you won't need that degree of "work ethic." When you talk to people with real, working dogs, you'll find out more.
 

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