A few questions.

[Mr.M]

I have a few questions:

When will my 5month old dog be able to.. how should i put it, mate with the opposite sex?

I never knew the full answer of this and thought it'd be best to ask u guys.

Also, my auntie has a pup the same age as mine.. she is thinking about them having pups when they're older..
Her pup is a rottie/golden lab, and snoop.. my pup, is a golden retriever/sheep dog.

Would this be a good mix?

Sorry for these, but I really do need to know..

Any help would be appriciated, thanks.

 

[yoko]

i am going to say this to be honest not to be mean. you shouldnt breed them. all you'd be making would be another mutt not to say mutts aren't the best dogs in the world *i'm biased* lol but it's just not a good idea. i'd just have them both fixed whenever you can. if you want another dog i'd get one from the shelter there are a lot of nice dogs there

 

[rottiegirl]

I am not sure about males, but females should be over 2 years old. 5 months old for a male is too young.

I do not think you should be breeding at all. Your dog is a mix, not good. Breeding is for improving a particular breed, and nothing else. There are way too many dogs and puppies in shelters.

Why are you thinking about breeding in the first place?

 

[RD]

Honey, you can find dozens of dogs that are the same mix in shelters. One particularly sweet Collie/Golden/Rottie mix litter was dumped on the shelter I volunteer at. Why don't you spay and neuter your current dogs and adopt the puppies that already exist and desperately need a home? If you want the fun of raising a litter, why not foster a pregnant female dog?

Honestly, as cute as they are, puppies are stressful. Think of waking up in the morning and finding that your litter of 5 6-week-old puppies has made 15 piles of poo and managed to thoroughly coat themselves in it. You have to clean up their pen, you have to clean up the pups themselves, and bear that god-awful smell. Do you love puppies enough to deal with that every single day for months until you find homes for them?
Or, here's a thought: What if you don't find homes for them? A responsible breeder would never dump puppies off at a shelter or rescue, so you might have 2 of those 5 staying at home until they're about 4-5 months old. Then their morning piles of poo will be the least of your concerns! You'll be more frustrated with their demolishing the house

Please don't breed just for the fun of it, and please AT LEAST make sure you know what you're getting into if you decide to.

 

[Mr.M]

Thanks for the comments, very helpful.

Its different here in England though.. I don't often see any puppies in the shelters around from where I live.

I have once adopted a puppy from there at 3 months of age, but he chewed my whole house up and by the time he was a year old we had to get rid of him.

Anyway, the reason we are thinking of mating them is because they are both black, and both very friendly.. and the same size.

'Mutts' sell, or go for free very easily around here.. We got Snoop for free.

It would never be a problem to get rid of them, and my Aunt would be lookin after the pups which she is very good at.

Anyway, I'll let u all know that this was just an IDEA for the future.. We arent actually saying for 100% that this will happen, just an idea.. the keep both of their spirit in the family.

This wouldn't be for a few years anyway I'm thinking.

 

[Muttlies3]

I'll echo what everyone else has said. You should only breed purebreds to better the breed, no matter your location.

 

[jess2416]

Anyway, the reason we are thinking of mating them is because they are both black, and both very friendly.. and the same size.

Just because they are both black and friendly and the same size doesnt mean that their puppies would look like that, but honestly I agree with everyone else you should get the dogs spayed/neutered.

 

[heci]

i totally disagree,things arent different here in england,rescue shelters are full of unwanted mixed breeds,your dog may be lovely and the other dog may be lovely but please have them neutered,i have 5 dogs,pedigrees,all but 1 were unwanted,all but 1(but soon will be)are nuetered,people will want pups off you then at the last minute change thier mind,some will take one and 6mths down the line when its chewing not want it,what will you do,this is a big responsability,please please think,enjoy your baby,love her as im sure you do,but will all the pups be as lucky

 

[Gustav]

Its different here in England though.. I don't often see any puppies in the shelters around from where I live.

Sorry but I totally disagree! I am an Ex pat living in France now, but there are literally THOUSANDS of pups up and down the country in the UK that need new homes!! Phone the RSPCA and ask them, there are even breed specific shelters!! I don't know where in the country you are but try Battersea dogs home!!!! Please don't breed just because you want a pup!!!

 

[JennSLK]

*Breath*


Ok. First off, inorder for you NOT to be a iresponisble breeder ora BYB breeder you need to do these things:

1)Health testing. Im talking hips, eyes, ears, ect.. Basicly $$$$$$$$
2)Carefully screen all prospective homes.
3)Breed purebred for a purpose, not just because you want puppies.
4)Temperment tests need to be done

Dog breeding is an art. Only dogs who are near perfect samples of the breed should be bred. Read the breeding posts. There is an amazing amount of info there. If you beed these two dogs you will be a BYB.

Are you willing to take each and everyone of those puppies back should it have a health problem or the new family not be able to keep it? A responsible breeder is.

Spay/Nueter both of them before it's to late.

 

[shepluvr]

Ditto to all the above!

Please Spay and Neuter.

 

[sparks19]

If you cannot answer YES to all of these questions than any reason you give for breeding this animals is nothing but an excuse to have a cute litter of babies just because you want to.

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787

I hope it helps you see the light.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

What will happen if there are complications? If your dog needs a cesarian (sp?)? Are you willing to take back all the puppies? Do you realize how expensive this will be? Please rethink your decision!

~Tucker

 

[Mr.M]

Ok, this has made me think twice.. thanks for all the posts.

It is actually very hard for me to find a pup in a shelter, I would only adopt a pup if it was 6-8weeks old and was a breed that I would want to take in.

I don't know why everybody thinks its hard for mutts to get homed, maybe where u live it is.. but not in nottingham, its very easy... where i was born the only dogs that were in my town were mutts.
Yes now it has changed and there is alot of pure breeds about, but people actually ask the mutt breeder if they can buy.
Yes they go for cheap, around 50 - 60 english pounds, but that doesn't mean they are hard to sell.

Anyway, reading some of these health issues I've figured its probably not the best idea.. Even tho I wouldn't be the one looking after the litter, my auntie would.. (Different house)

Thanks and i'm sorry if i scared yall.

 

[Violet21]

It is actually very hard for me to find a pup in a shelter, I would only adopt a pup if it was 6-8weeks old and was a breed that I would want to take in..

Yeah.. exactly.. why do you think there are no puppies. Because people adopt them when they are cute and small and as soon as they turn into dogs many people "get rid of them" just like you said you got rid of your 1 year old.

It's not really a shock there are not many puppies in shelters. There are not many puppies in any shelters. Everyone likes a puppie that chews and jumps up and is sweet and to small to do any damage. When its an adult dog not so cute. Then there are just more dogs to go to shelters and many end up being put down.

How would you feel knowing that your puppies may be deserted because people are too lazy to train them and the novelty wears of and they "get rid of it" and they don't get adopted and are put down, IE killed???

There are enough stray dogs that get pregnant accidently and it is truely sad and horrible what happens to these poor animals.

Please don't breed your dog.. it is extremely irresponsible.. if you want to see puppies visit a breeder and play with theirs...

If you want to become a breeder, which it doesn't even sound like (you say your aunt will look after them so who cares..) you should be breeding purebred dogs for the purpose of bettering the breed and providing safe, loving homes with life-time companion or working dogs.

Doing that is not as easy or as fun as it might sound. It is a lot of work from what I can see. Please don't be horrible..

 

[Mr.M]

Wow, the post above just clearifys u didn't read my post.

Please don't try and turn what I said against me, we had to give our dog away to somebody who could look after him properly.

He chewed the house up, he used to sneak into a room, grab something and run off and chew it without anybody knowing. The last time we put up with it until my parents decided he had to go was when he chewed up a mobile phone and multiple cases to it.

It looked easy for u to try and offend me like that, well it didn't work.

Again, read the post.. I have changed my mind and realised that its not the right thing to do.. The last thing i needed was that stupid un-needed post that u tried to offend me with.

Thanks for the help everybody.

 

[taratippy]

Ok, this has made me think twice.. thanks for all the posts.

It is actually very hard for me to find a pup in a shelter, I would only adopt a pup if it was 6-8weeks old and was a breed that I would want to take in.

I don't know why everybody thinks its hard for mutts to get homed, maybe where u live it is.. but not in nottingham, its very easy... where i was born the only dogs that were in my town were mutts.
Yes now it has changed and there is alot of pure breeds about, but people actually ask the mutt breeder if they can buy.
Yes they go for cheap, around 50 - 60 english pounds, but that doesn't mean they are hard to sell.

Anyway, reading some of these health issues I've figured its probably not the best idea.. Even tho I wouldn't be the one looking after the litter, my auntie would.. (Different house)

Thanks and i'm sorry if i scared yall.

Im sorry but you've not looked then! The shelters in the UK are stuffed at the moment with adult dogs and puppies and homes are very hard toc ome by. Every week on the UK boards are lists of dogs going to pts and thousands are every week and Nottingham is certainly no exception.

You got rid of a puppy because it chewed things, sorry but any puppy will do that and you have to be responsible for making sure it cant get into stuff.

The puppies might be raised in a different home but what about the future? What if someone wants to return a dog after a year or so, would YOU be willing to take it back because it would still be your responsibility.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Wow, the post above just clearifys u didn't read my post.

Please don't try and turn what I said against me, we had to give our dog away to somebody who could look after him properly.

He chewed the house up, he used to sneak into a room, grab something and run off and chew it without anybody knowing. The last time we put up with it until my parents decided he had to go was when he chewed up a mobile phone and multiple cases to it.

It looked easy for u to try and offend me like that, well it didn't work.

Again, read the post.. I have changed my mind and realised that its not the right thing to do.. The last thing i needed was that stupid un-needed post that u tried to offend me with.

Thanks for the help everybody.

The normal puppy mischief you describe above is no reason for dumping a dog.

Training is a requirement for a puppy to learn how to meet your expectations.

 

[Mr.M]

he was 1 1/2 years old at the time and it chewed up desks, mobile phones, sofas, television stands, warldrobes.. I can't remove stuff from a room when we go out, i was a kid at the time so i couldn't do anything about him being re homed.

But to be honest, i think everybody here would of done the same, there was no cure for him. He chewed up everything in his site, especially when nobody was around for a short time. He must of cost us over 2000 english pounds for repairs of the damage caused.. Its not like we got rid of a 6 month old pup because he was teething and biting the desk.

We are not a rich family, and we couldnt put up with any more damage from a near to 2 year old huge dog who would chew everything.

He was from a rescue in the first place, and as much as i miss him, we've never had the same trouble with any other dog.

'normal puppy mischeif i describe' .. this shows how ignorant some people really are.

I have a 5 month old golden retriever/border collie, and he indeed likes to chew stuff, thats normal puppy mischief and we are handling it well.
No matter what u might comeback with, the pup we adopted from the shelter was NOT the same as my other dogs we have had.. Maybe it was the life he had before we got him at 4 months, who knows?

All i know is that he put our family into a finincial mess and some people on this board like to act like they think they know what goes on in my family, and that its normal for a 1 and a half year old dog to chew up EVERYTHING, plus training to try and get him to stop.

This has really annoyed me.. u guys should actually think before u talk, because i have got a reason for anything u could say about getting my old dog rehomed.

And for anybody who likes to say, oh why didn't u get him training to get him to stop. Well we tried, and it didn't work.

It really irritates me how u can say its normal puppy behaviour for a near to 2 year old dog to destroy everything.
I'm not dumb, and I know what normal puppy behaviour is.

Bah, I give up with this thread.

There isn't going to be a mutt litter thanks to the people who helped me realise, so why act like u know what went on with a dog thats got nothing to do with this?

Please take time with what u say next time, and again, thanks to the people who helped.

 

[mojozen]

Then he was chewing because he was bored. He could have been a breed of dog who needed a high level of activity and you weren't providing it. If he's been rehomed to a home that can meet his energy level needs then it is a good thing he was rehomed.