You be the Judge.......
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I would really like to add my two cents into this subject. As a hypothetical situation here. My brother has an American Bulldog who is the sweetest big lug around. If I were at a party at my brothers house, I would never dream of pulling a prank like that when there is a potential that the dog is around. Very simple: Even though the dog is sweet and wonderful and is great around the kids, I don't know how he would react to a threat to the kids even though he does know me.
Pure and simple: Dogs and potential threats to their family do NOT mix!!!!
People here are blaming the breed, the breeder, the owners along with training. Basically, unless you have trained your dog to be an attacker, none of us really know how any of our dogs will react to a threat of that nature. If someone I know comes into a party in my back yard and creates an atmosphere where the kids are running scared, I am completely clueless as to how my dog would react. Would she run with the kids, hide in the corner, become agressive or attack. I don't really know. I do know that I have been working very hard to make sure that my dog reacts in a friendly manner to people in general, but not to react if attacked.
It would be interesting to know how many people are really confident that their dogs would not react in a negative fashion to that kind of "perceived" threat.
Pure and simple: Dogs and potential threats to their family do NOT mix!!!!
People here are blaming the breed, the breeder, the owners along with training. Basically, unless you have trained your dog to be an attacker, none of us really know how any of our dogs will react to a threat of that nature. If someone I know comes into a party in my back yard and creates an atmosphere where the kids are running scared, I am completely clueless as to how my dog would react. Would she run with the kids, hide in the corner, become agressive or attack. I don't really know. I do know that I have been working very hard to make sure that my dog reacts in a friendly manner to people in general, but not to react if attacked.
It would be interesting to know how many people are really confident that their dogs would not react in a negative fashion to that kind of "perceived" threat.
I know what you are saying Renee. But I REALLY think the anti BSL movement needs to hire a professional spokesperson who is not emotionally involved to recreate the approach, remove the bitterness that can't be helped from the web sites, plow through the issues of rights and find appropriate openings, anticipate the other side and counter in a more empathetic way, and polish things up so that legislators don't know what hit them when the arguments are presented.
I have never seen anything in the constitution defending someones right to be stupid.
BSL is very much along the lines of gun control. We gun owners tried all kinds of things to satisfy anti gunners. They will never be satisfied. There could be full blown confiscation and gun problems wouldnt go away and those folks would still be crying for more laws.
I guess why it pisses me off so much is because I see people here crying to have a dog put down that reminds me of a dog I love, that I would expect to act the same way if faced with somone he thought attacking his family.
We can tell the world that this problem is solved by killing this dog. Perhaps someday when one of your dogs protects you from what he sees as a threat, you will still have the same mindset when the truck comes for it. The dog is the least of the mans worrys if he came to get mine.
She (prostitute) theoretically entered into a mutual contract with John in good faith. John egregiously broke good faith contract, so John has liability. If the transaction involved stupidity, then the stupidity was mutual, cancelling out any Stupid non-responsibility clause 
And of course this would all be theoretical anyway, since when's the last time anyone bothered to look for justice of any sort for a murdered prostitute?
And of course this would all be theoretical anyway, since when's the last time anyone bothered to look for justice of any sort for a murdered prostitute?
What a sad situation. The deck was stacked from the start. Heres a different way of looking at it.
They bought a dog to protect them in a high crime area. And the dog protected the very scared family and friends in the only way it knew how. It's sad that nobody was there to protect the dog from their family and friends.
They bought a dog to protect them in a high crime area. And the dog protected the very scared family and friends in the only way it knew how. It's sad that nobody was there to protect the dog from their family and friends.
Its a tough lifestyle that comes with risks. Do I think he should be punished? Not by a community organized militia (police, courts and prisons). In Buckshots world if someone gave a hoot about this prostitute there would be no law prohibiting this person from administering their own justice on this john.
In the world the rest of you seem to live in and call reallity, they would hunt down this john, and screw up their handling of the evidence and he would be free. Any loved ones surviving the prostitute who tried to avenge her death would go to death row.
In the world the rest of you seem to live in and call reallity, they would hunt down this john, and screw up their handling of the evidence and he would be free. Any loved ones surviving the prostitute who tried to avenge her death would go to death row.
Nope. There were no ifs ands or buts to the scenario. I created the scenario. She went with him, he decided to kill her. That's all. Sometimes chit happens that way, especially if you are stupid and sell yourself for sex. So we can agree that such a scenario can and does happen, yes? But she WAS stupid to be doing this, yes?