well the thread started out as a post about an ad that wanted to sell or trade her "model" in for another one. Kind of like a car. It just so happened to be someone that posted here, and it was found out. Then this person has a history of cycling thru dogs at a pretty rapid rate for whatever reason, I don't really care, her life and her dogs live's have been in a lot of turmoil, and its been one dog after the other. Sorry, but I'm not going to feel a whole lot of compassion when its been said that maybe she needs to get her life together and be more stable. Nothing wrong with that, it happens to everyone at some point. then she comes back with every excuse in the book. Sorry, but dog after dog come and gone and then threatens or actually does give this dog to a horrible, nut job, whacked out so called "breeder" of GSD's who has a history of not only here but other places of being a complete liar with almost zero education of how to or what makes the breed she claims to breed, and i'm quite sure she's a candidate to put a shrinks kids thru college. Sorry, this woman has done nothing lately to earn my respect and if you really aren't her or Heather, maybe you should go where they went