Landlord's annoying dog

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ANYWAYS, I do think the situation should be taken care of as if the dogs get into a tiff, you don't want to get on your landlord's bad side.

I think asking to tie him is a reasonable suggestion, as is getting a mobile dog kennel (craigslist for $100 usually).
 

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If I saw the dog coming I would block the dog from getting to mine, even if I had to take some of the roughing up in the process, FYI wrap last isn't "pepper spray" persay as in now as intense, just mildly irritating but it isn't dangerous.

I have met lots of labs who are like this, not to insult good dog with good owners, but there are a lot of ill bred dogs & bad owners that give the breed a bad name like the OP's landlord.

I had a couple of bosses/landlords who were inconsiderate with their dogs or to dogs in general, notice I am not there anymore.
I've been pepper sprayed. It is excruciatingly painful, and seriously one of the worst physical pains I have ever experienced. This is coming from someone who has also broken their neck and couldn't have painkillers due to allergies, and had unmedicated child birth twice. I can't even begin to imagine the kind of torture a dog, with billions more scent receptors in their nose, endures with a face full of pepper spray.

It's not something I'd ever recommend to be used casually, on people or animals. I carry it, but for life threatening emergencies. Not for annoying dogs. Especially if said dog is on their own property.
 

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On the other hand it is easy to teach a dog that they have to stay away from you & only you (mine while they are staying at my folks know what they can get away with with them but when I am home visiting they are perfect angels) I agree, a few shots of citronella spray, though some dogs need something "tougher", I always used something called "Wrap Last" which is essentually pepper spray, its actually something you spray on stall bandages to keep the horses from messing with them.

One shot of that in the face & most dogs will not do it more then twice, its better then lets say, their dog & your dogs having a free for all when one or more of them get sick of being harassed with they are trying to use the restroom. Not to mention it can regress your training (having dogs that will start to not use the restroom for fear of being bombarded by some obnoxious dog).

That is if they say no to the tieing him up thing while you are outside but I would not lie about the reason, I would be straight foward with them, I would say in a diplomatic way that your dogs aare unable to use the restroom even because their dog is bothering them & then ask if you guys can compromise on just tying the dog up when you are outside letting your dogd do their business, then taking your dogs back inside, then letting their dog off.

you could also make a date where all the dogs can be outside playing together for further compromise or something like that (not during your dogs "bathroom time") maybe after your dogs have used the restroom or something like that.

also maybe you could offer to work with the dog to make him more neighborhood friendly to benifit everyone.
It's either essentially pepper spray or it isn't, you can't have it both ways.
 

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Essentially, meaning that it is made of / derived FROM peppers so use it is "almost" the same thing but not nearly as strong. It doesn't damage mucous membranes like the real stuff does. I have also used a hot shot when I used to walk in the city where there were lots of loose really aggressive dogs that are coming at me & my dog. One shot with a hot shot, most don't want a second.
 

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Honestly if someone peppered sprayed my dog or "essentially pepper sprayed" my dog while on my property it being a stranger or a renter I would kick them off my property so fast. We have a renter right now and if he did anything to Teagan the wrath of Hayley would come out.

The way I see it its my property, my dog can act accordingly. And although Teagan is always well behaved, but if she did something my renter did not like I would want him to take it up with me before doing any kind of training or whatever to my dog.
 

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I get the feeling that you're the kind of person that would break out the mace if a black guy was walking behind you at night.

Most animals and people do not need pepper spray or any variation of it. That's an EXTREME solution.

You would seriously spray a type of pepper spray at a neighbor dog who was dorking about near your dogs? Not everyone has perfectly trained dogs.

Skittle is not going to pepper spray the dog. Let's try to come up with some reasonable solutions.
 

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http://www.bigdweb.com/RAP-LAST-SPRAY-8-OZ/productinfo/5202/

Rap Last is a unique product which uses the active ingredients of oleo resin capsicum, capsaicine and pelargonic acid vanilly amide to prevent horses from chewing on wraps, blankets,wood etc. By properly using Rap Last, your animal will leave anything completely alone!
http://www.pepper-spray-store.com/relatedinfo/whatis.shtml

Pepper spray is made up of an active ingredient called OC (Oleoresin Capsicum) and other inert ingredients.
You were right the first time, unfortunately for you. It's essentially pepper spray.
 

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Hot Shot like..the wasp killer?

All the ingredients in Rap Last, are the ingredients in pepper spray, by the way. "Pepper spray, also known as OC spray (from "Oleoresin Capsicum"), OC gas, and capsicum spray...". The first ingredient in Rap Last is Oleoresin Capsicum.
 

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A hot shot like ... A cattle prod, or as we call them a "short stick". Mind you that is only for the most aggressive dogs whom I know will harm me & my dogs & assertive stance or "get out of here" doesn't work, luckily I only had to use it twice as verbal deturant works if the dog really isn't serious about attacking.

Same with the rap last. But it is made to go on bandages that go on horses legs so it isn't as intense as the real stuff.
 

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I'm off tomorrow so I'm going to talk to them about it tomorrow. I know the landlord has been mentioning wanting to build a fenced in backyard area and he owns a fencing company so I'm surprised he hasn't done it already. Josh offered to help build the fence as well.

I'm for sure going to suggest tying him up temporarily while I walk my dogs. Their schedules fluctuate a lot so I know they wont be down for setting certain times for dogs to be outside and I don't want to bug them about that option since it is their property. I mainly do not want one of my dogs to end up hurt and I'm a little worried about Cricket developing leash reactivity since she has already started to get a little raised hackles when she sees him when we are out. She does get along with him, but she does not like him rushing up on her like he does.
 

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A hot shot like ... A cattle prod, or as we call them a "short stick". Mind you that is only for the most aggressive dogs whom I know will harm me & my dogs & assertive stance or "get out of here" doesn't work, luckily I only had to use it twice as verbal deturant works if the dog really isn't serious about attacking.

Same with the rap last. But it is made to go on bandages that go on horses legs so it isn't as intense as the real stuff.
It's the EXACT SAME ingredient as in pepper spray. And the second ingredient is capsaicine. Have you ever used capsaicine on your muscles, for soreness or arthritis? Ever accidentally touched your eye or nose after applying it?
To suggest spraying a dog with Rap Last in any situation where you or your dog's life is not in danger is exceedingly cruel.
Let me be more clear: you suggested spraying an exuberant lab puppy on his own property with this stuff and your suggestion, and your continued defense of it, and you, are exceedingly cruel.
 

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Have you lost your mind? If you used a cattle prod on my dog I would murder you. Slowly. With your own **** cattle prod.
You didn't live in the neighborhood I did, you would understand. It was only as a last resort if I knew an attack was imminent on myself or my dogs. At the time I had a young puppy (Izze) & a small breed dog (Bear, jack Russell terrier) there were a couple of times where it was either use the prod or watch my dog be mauled right in front of me.

Luckily it was only a couple of times.
 

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A hot shot like ... A cattle prod, or as we call them a "short stick". Mind you that is only for the most aggressive dogs whom I know will harm me & my dogs & assertive stance or "get out of here" doesn't work, luckily I only had to use it twice as verbal deturant works if the dog really isn't serious about attacking.

Same with the rap last. But it is made to go on bandages that go on horses legs so it isn't as intense as the real stuff.
You don't intentionally harm someone's animal on their own property, especially for relatively minor behavioral problems. On private property you respect it and the owners.

Private. Property. You do not have the same rights on private property as you do in public.

To suggest using pepper spray or "rap last" or any other eye-burning substance their own dog on their own land for rudeness is totally asinine. What to do in public with aggressive dogs really isn't relevant to this situation.
 

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No, it isn't but someone raised a question to a situation where I would feel the use of wrap last or a cattle prod is needed.

No, the OP's situation is not appropriate, I was merely answering a question.

I think that the fence idea is most appropriate
 

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Dude. You can't pepper spray or hot shot a dog on it's own owner's land. Period. No need to even discuss it further.
 

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Asking if you can tie the dog when you take yours out sounds entirely appropriate, and I can't imagine the owner being offended. As to spraying the dog, the product that would be effective and what I sometimes carry on walks is citronella spray (brand name "Spray Shield", I think), which is discouraging without being harmful to the dog in any way (won't discourage a serious attack, but will back off a curious or overly friendly dog). Bonus that the owners tend to get aggravated that you sprayed their dog with something, and they keep it away from you next time. It's +P for dog owners, really.

I wouldn't use that in this case, though, because the owners might be offended by it, even though it's harmless. The private property thing.
 

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