THe robot thing did make me chuckle. If there was ever not a robot dog...it would be Victor.:rofl1: Thanks Zoom for putting a smile on my face, I had forgotten about that one.
When I started working at the kennels I was followed and watched my every move for about a year. I had 5 dogs a day to obed work before I did the kennel work, later that number sometimes increased but was almost never under 5. Training sessions were set up where either i was used as a handler or a bird boy. Fall and spring were field trials for 10 years. I was paid with dog food, trail fees, vet service and a first pick of the litter of my choice. 7 days a week, no matter what the weather, but I loved it. I learned to drive a jeep with a dog trailer attached before I learned to drive a regular car. I was step and fetch and go for it..girl friday. I got a heck of a lot of experience working dogs that came in with issues. THey don't bring them in when they are small and cute and easy. THey bring them in when they are too big to handle with every kind of problem which we were suppose to fix in a month's time. All through jr high, high school, jr college, a year's break and back to it when I started the ARt institute. I didn't read a lot of books, tho i did read some. I did as I was instructed and followed the different styles of training that i saw between different hunters and handlers with interest choosing for my own methods what i felt was most effective... Not saying I know it all either. Thanks to Pets for LIfe and the seminars they make possible I have learned about pressure points that I have found very effective to work in and t-touch which helped reach Victor when he was unreachable. I do believe it gives me a bit of a right to express an opinion on something that is being said that is against what I was taught. ANd apparently Grammy was under the same thoughts as well. . I wrote that these games in people very experienced that know not to go too far probably do no harm. But i also said that i saw one 6 week old pup that was treated exactly the way My boss said not to that ended up aggressive, the only dog ever under my roof that behaved this way. Tug was the only thing the ex ever did with him..the rest of the care was the same. I said that Victor would bite right through you to get the toy when he came. Creating an atmosphere where his only goal was to snatch it away and get you to chase him. I am sure by the way he behaved that keep away was a big part of it. Especially since his head started slinging one way from one person to another as soon as the toy was introduced. I spent months undoing his issues like you would untie a huge and impossible knot. I do respect the people I associate here in KC and felt strongly enough about the issue to ask them openly without stating my opinion first and come back here and share the answer. I am accustom to the rude statements such as I do not respect people on here from certain members. Down right predictable to read that, but it is also inaccurate. I do very much have respect for a lot of our chaz trainers. Ct how I wish she were still with us was postively brilliant in her approach. I do not however always agree with everything that is written. IF i think it is no big deal, i say nothing. But if i think those that lurk are going to read this thread I do want them to hear my perspective and go out and seek more information before they make up their own minds..especially in very young puppies in their first few months before they have learned their basics. I have no use for keep away whatsoever.