Wrong end of an agressive "bad rap" big dog

bonster

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Had an incident today with a big aggressive doberman - lose - charging up at me and Bonnie (who was leashed) and jumping/gnashing/barking - quite frightening for both of us! Although scared Bonnie did bark back - which seemed to aggratate the situation - and the Doberman was getting alarmingly aggressive.
Enter owner number one (from a table at a cafe we were passing) - a middle aged woman who tried screeching to command the Doberman to stop. No effect. So she tries to smack it - then grabbed it - which it resisted. This in fact made its agression worse and I thought Bonnie was going to get bitten. Then enter owner two - a guy who was yelling at it to stop and had to forcilbly drag it away by its chain against its will - using all his weight. Thankfully no harm done, just a very nasty fright.
Now I'm a rational, dog-loving person, and understand that its the owners who are to blame, not the dogs. If you have a dog (especially a so-called "bad rap" breed) especially if agressive and/or able to out-power you, if you were responsible surely you would have it leashed (even muzzled if necessary) when other people/dogs were around etc, and be certain that it would respond to your commands.
Perhaps part of the 'bad rap' problem is owners like this - imagine what someones reaction would be if they didn't like/understand dogs - not everyone has to. The impression they get isn't about what the owners may or may not have done in the past in terms of training/socialisation but the intimidating memory of a hunk of charging/barking animal baring its teeth.
I've seen this dog (or one very like it) being walked by an unsupervised little kid before - madness!
Rant over :(
I just wish ALL people, but especially people wth dogs like this (where misbehaviour could be tragic) - would be responsible. Probably a case of a small minority giving the majority a bad name - but the statistics don't matter when its you that gets affected.
 
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Bonster, that's per-zactly how breeds get branded! Sorry you and Bonnie had to deal with that.

You do wonder what's wrong with people who don't keep their dogs under control. Not only are they hurting the perception of perfectly decent breeds and being grossly inconsiderate, they are courting very expensive lawsuits, not to mention putting their dog in the way of possibly being destroyed!

And dogs who are so undisciplined are rarely happy, well-adjusted creatures. There are very few breeds that are, by nature, so actively aggressive, especially away from their home territory.
 

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Bonster I'm glad you and Bonnie didn't get hurt. I love to take my dogs on walks but the thought of a stray dog coming after us sometimes stops me from doing this. I wish people would be more responsible for their pets.
 

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Sounds scary thank goodness you all made it out ok. Its ridiculas that the was not leashed to begin with and was just let to run about in a public place. That would be scary not matter what breed of dog he was.
 

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Maybe You Need To Carry A Spray Like The Mailmen Do.
 

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for sure, it was the fact that these people had trouble controling this dog (which was big, probably 80lbs+) that made me really angry - and the fact it was lose in public - at that size you need to be extra careful - the guy could only just pull it away against its will
 
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Bonster, I wish I could loan you a Monster to take with you and Bonnie a couple of times, lol! We just don't have those problems anymore . . . can't imagine why, rofl!

As Bonnie gains more and more self-confidence, though, you'll have fewer confrontations like this.
 

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The bad thing is how it will effect your dog if you do get attacked, your dog is probably a lot more "grown up" then victor. The one thing I love most about vic is how much he loves other dogs. If he looked out the window and saw a couple of big dogs the only thought that would cross his mind is PLAYMATES! If he was to be attacked, i am sure his pretty pink skin would tear easy and his self esteem would be gone. I sure hope it never happens to us. I don't think there is a thing wrong with carrying some kind of mace if you have to go that way again. Bronki got bit right under they eye, took 17 stitches by another dog. It could have just as easily been in his eye..missed by a 1/4 inch. You know the irresonsible owner wouldn't pay the bill either.
 
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What I started doing is carrying a cap gun. Whenever the crazy pitbull with the crazy owners down the street runs toward us, i just shoot it and it normally scares him away. Its ridiculous when you can't even walk your dog without worrying about it getting attacked. :mad:
 

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