would you own a dog-aggressive dog?

[Dekka]

Don't forget though...sh*t happens and even the best dog can develop some issues after a situation that require working through. What happens if your dog is attacked one day and develops fear aggression? Are you going ot just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist?

:hail::hail::hail: Dekka was attacked at 12 weeks. And was jumped by other dogs (some in play, some not) at other times.

She has some of the best dog manners around dogs she knows (has met 3 times) but is DR to strange dogs.

For all you who say it will never happen to you-I hope it doesn't. But if it does I hope you have enough love for your dog to work with it/through it.

 

[Chewbecca]

I never have my dog off leash around other dogs, but I did have an incident where she ran out my door and attacked another dog.
What did I do?

I took responsibility for the incident, paid the vet bill, and took my dog to a trainer/behaviorist to work on her issues.

I spent over a year having a REALLY difficult time getting the incident out of my head. EVERY DAY. I was afraid to walk my dog because I knew what my dog was capable of doing.
I'm STILL building up my confidence after the incident. It hit me HARD. But I am getting better and my dog gets walks and I accept her for who and what she is. I deal with it and I've built my courage up and have decided NOT to live in fear of my what my dog "could" do.


My dog needs NO ONE but her humans. NO ONE. I am her world. NOT other dogs.


Would I choose to willingly adopt another dog aggressive dog?
Probably, IF I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE DOG, sure. This isn't "Would I buy a black car or the exact same car, but in white?". No, it's not as simple as do I want a black car or a white car. Falling in love with ANYTHING isn't that simple. And dog aggression, imo (and it's only MY opinion) isn't as unpredictable or as dangerous as human aggression.
Like my trainer said, I'd rather have a dog that was rock solid with humans, but dislikes other dogs, than to have a dog that's sketchy with humans but LOVES other dogs, if I had to pick.


My dog didn't come to me dog aggressive. Not sure exactly WHAT triggered it, but yes, it basically happened over night.
It can happen that fast. IT CAN, and IT DOES.



Does ANYONE prefer to own a dog aggressive dog? Uh, I don't know anyone that would PREFER to own a dog aggressive dog. But no one is a fortune teller. No one knows what their dog will become.

 

[mom2dogs]

Don't forget though...sh*t happens and even the best dog can develop some issues after a situation that require working through. What happens if your dog is attacked one day and develops fear aggression? Are you going ot just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist?

SMWW was attacked twice by a Lakie (whom I still love) when they were in the same x-pen and once when in a hotel room at a dog show. Some days she can be put next to her and other times they will fight and try to get to each other. It's a coin flip on how both will be and tolerate each other. This is the only dog she cannot stand, and I can understand it completely, which is why they are no longer allowed to be together where they can fight and do physical harm because I do not want it to escalate..

 

[Tahla9999]

I never have my dog off leash around other dogs, but I did have an incident where she ran out my door and attacked another dog.
What did I do?

I took responsibility for the incident, paid the vet bill, and took my dog to a trainer/behaviorist to work on her issues.

I spent over a year having a REALLY difficult time getting the incident out of my head. EVERY DAY. I was afraid to walk my dog because I knew what my dog was capable of doing.
I'm STILL building up my confidence after the incident. It hit me HARD. But I am getting better and my dog gets walks and I accept her for who and what she is. I deal with it and I've built my courage up and have decided NOT to live in fear of my what my dog "could" do.


My dog needs NO ONE but her humans. NO ONE. I am her world. NOT other dogs.


Would I choose to willingly adopt another dog aggressive dog?
Probably, IF I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE DOG, sure. This isn't "Would I buy a black car or the exact same car, but in white?". No, it's not as simple as do I want a black car or a white car. Falling in love with ANYTHING isn't that simple. And dog aggression, imo (and it's only MY opinion) isn't as unpredictable or as dangerous as human aggression.
Like my trainer said, I'd rather have a dog that was rock solid with humans, but dislikes other dogs, than to have a dog that's sketchy with humans but LOVES other dogs, if I had to pick.


My dog didn't come to me dog aggressive. Not sure exactly WHAT triggered it, but yes, it basically happened over night.
It can happen that fast. IT CAN, and IT DOES.



Does ANYONE prefer to own a dog aggressive dog? Uh, I don't know anyone that would PREFER to own a dog aggressive dog. But no one is a fortune teller. No one knows what their dog will become.

I agree Chewbecca. You think that your dog cannot be DA, but remeber, THINGS happen. I'm sure no one here would put down there dog because of DA, but this thread is seriously making me wonder. They are dogs, not humans. Dogs don't have morals. A dog could attack a dog just because it wanted to for no reason at all. I mean, I was volunteering at this shelture and this german shepard mix had this grudge against this Husky for no reason at all. He liked other dogs except the Husky. He tried his hardest to kill that particular dog. Would you euthanize it? No way! Dogs are animals and should be treated as such!

 

[rosesmom]

I would not own any type of aggressive dog personally.

 

[jess2416]

would you be willing to own a dog-aggressive dog?

At this time, I do not feel like I am an experienced enough to own one, so I would have to say, No I would not actively go looking for a DA dog

would you adopt a dog already known to be dog-aggressive?

Same answer as above

what would you do if your own formerly unaggressive dog became dog-aggressive?

I would deal with it, the best way I could, with the help of people with that experience, and with a behaviorist

what would you do if your dog attacked another dog while your dog was off-leash in a public place?

Honestly, I have no clue, how I would react, but I would offer to pay the medical bills or whatever else I would need to do

(in none of the scenarios is the dog human-aggressive)

(the reason i'm posting this is a story told by someone on another group about a parson russell terrier who ran off an agility course and attacked another dog. the prt apparently latched onto this dog and wouldn't let go, though when the owner finally managed to pry the dog off, no real physical harm had been done. the prt was then euthanized. the dog also was unable to be uncrated around two of the other dogs in the household, who were apparently new to the household, but was okay around the other two dogs who were not new.)

My answers in Red

 

[aivzdog]

Yes I would be willing to own one if I had no other dogs.
You can get dog aggressive dogs use to other dogs if you have patience and time to train it.
I wouldnt recommend everyone to own a dog aggressive dog since they can be a challenge.
They deserve homes too though.
My dogs are always going to the dog park so they stay socialized with other dogs and people.
xoxo
Anna

 

[Sweet72947]

would you be willing to own a dog-aggressive dog?

Sure, if I didn't have other dogs, and if I only wanted one dog at a time.

would you adopt a dog already known to be dog-aggressive?

Yes, there are a few at FOHA I'd love to have, but I cannot because I already have other dogs, it wouldn't be fair to them.

what would you do if your own formerly unaggressive dog became dog-aggressive?

Figure out why, then work on desentizing the dog. If I could manage it I'd crate and rotate, but if the situation wasn't working out, I would rehome the dog to a better situation.

what would you do if your dog attacked another dog while your dog was off-leash in a public place?

Pay for the vet bills. Although my dogs don't go that many places (vet, and Daisy goes to FOHA with me and plays with some of the nice dogs there).

 

[TopShelfPets]

would you be willing to own a dog-aggressive dog?

would you adopt a dog already known to be dog-aggressive?

what would you do if your own formerly unaggressive dog became dog-aggressive?

what would you do if your dog attacked another dog while your dog was off-leash in a public place?

(in none of the scenarios is the dog human-aggressive)

(the reason i'm posting this is a story told by someone on another group about a parson russell terrier who ran off an agility course and attacked another dog. the prt apparently latched onto this dog and wouldn't let go, though when the owner finally managed to pry the dog off, no real physical harm had been done. the prt was then euthanized. the dog also was unable to be uncrated around two of the other dogs in the household, who were apparently new to the household, but was okay around the other two dogs who were not new.)

If I had no other dogs and wasn't concerned with my dog needing to be able to be around other dogs, I would be willing to own a DA dog. At the present time, I'm not an experienced enough handler and I don't have the space, time, or money necessary to work with one though.

When I adopted Jaeger, I made a point of asking how he behaved with other dogs, and asked to have a couple other dogs out of their pens so I could watch him interact. I didn't have any dogs at home, but my neighbors at the time had a chihuahua and a dachshund, and my brother has a chow/lab mix. I knew that there would be times our dogs would be in the same room and wanted to be prepared if i needed to crate Jaeger to prevent anything from happening. It doesn't mean I wouldn't have taken him home even if he wasn't in love with everyone he meets.

What I would do in the case of a change would depend on the severity of what happened. I'd probably call in a behaviorist no matter what. If he just became dog-reactive, or started growling and lunging on a leash or something, I would probably manage the behavior, try to desensitize him, and no put him in situations where he was around other dogs. If there was a severe attack where he injured another dog, he would be isolated for the rest of his life, or pts depending on what happened.

Certainly not let him be off-leash in a public place EVER AGAIN. I'd pay the vet bills for the other dog, see my own vet and a behaviorist. But I'd basically err on the side of caution and assume that he did it once, and presented with the opportunity he will absolutely do it again.

 

[Babyblue5290]

would you be willing to own a dog-aggressive dog?

Depends on the circumstances. If I have the money, time, and space to work with it sure would. If I had another dog, and I knew this one was DA, I wouldn't adopt it.

would you adopt a dog already known to be dog-aggressive?

Again, depends on the severity and my resources at the time.

what would you do if your own formerly unaggressive dog became dog-aggressive?

Work with it. Don't bring it around other dogs. Behaviorist if I have the money.

what would you do if your dog attacked another dog while your dog was off-leash in a public place?

Mine are never off leash, unless in the dog park. But I would check my dog, get my dog out of there (letting the owner know I'd be back), check the other dog, and pay for any medical bills.

 

[Juicy]

Never in a million years. Owning a dog is supposed to be fun. If I had a dog that was capable of inflicting serious harm on another dog or animal, that takes all the fun out of dog ownership. I don't want to be walking around with a loaded gun.



Never.



It wouldn't ever happen. I would never own ANY breed of dog known for aggression of any sort, dog, human or otherwise.



It would never happen. Hypothetically if it did, I would be horrified and the dog would never leave the house without a leash and muzzle.

That my friend is called a stuffed animal. I've heard of yorkies killing other yorkies, pomeranian killing a baby, so on, and so on.


Excuse me, but your breed isn't 100 percent fool proof either....we're talking human aggressive here, but still....

Miami Dade County Animal Control: 992 bites

Miami Dade County has had a pit bull ban in place for nearly 2 decades.

Terrier: 108
Labrador mix: 95
Shepherd mix: 90
Mixed breed: 81
German shepherd: 53
Chow mix: 50
Boxer: 39
Rottweiler: 33
Pit bull: 32
American bulldog: 30


Broward County Animal Control: 616 bites

Broward County does not have a pit bull ban.

Pit bull: 182
Labrador retriever: 50
German shepherd: 40
Rottweiler : 36
Shepherd: 29
Chow chow: 23
Bulldog: 17
Boxer: 14
Unknown (mixed): 14
Jack Russell Terrier: 13


Now is this the same attitude you have with a human aggressive dog too? It can happen with any breed. I haven't met any dog aggressive labs, but I'm not ignorant and I know that not every lab is dog social.

 

[Juicy]

would you be willing to own a dog-aggressive dog?
Yes, I plan on owning a dog aggressive breed one day. So I'm taking chances with that risk that it can become dog-aggressive.

would you adopt a dog already known to be dog-aggressive?
No, I'm willing for the risk of having a da dog, but not go owning one who already is. I would work with my dog's temperment so it wouldn't be dog-aggressive, not so willing to work to reverse a dog's dog aggression.

what would you do if your own formerly unaggressive dog became dog-aggressive?
I would work with it, I've had a dog that was dog tolerate before, so I think I can mange.

what would you do if your dog attacked another dog while your dog was off-leash in a public place?
I would pay for the vet bills. I wouldn't put my dog to sleep, but I will never let it happen, then knowing the possibility that my dog will attack if given the chance had I not known before.

 

[Zoom]

Just a reminder, all the socialization and "prevention" in the world will not overcome genetics. A DA dog is a DA dog. You can do umpteen hours of training to help that dog learn to control it's behavior and impulses, but you must ALWAYS remember that you have a DA dog on your hands and never allow the opportunity for their training or themselves to fail.

 

[Juicy]

Just a reminder, all the socialization and "prevention" in the world will not overcome genetics. A DA dog is a DA dog. You can do umpteen hours of training to help that dog learn to control it's behavior and impulses, but you must ALWAYS remember that you have a DA dog on your hands and never allow the opportunity for their training or themselves to fail.

I know, that's why I say even though I wouldn't go looking for a da dog, I know that the chance is there, so yes I am willing to own a da dog, even though at the present time it might not be one. But I think really that goes for any dog no matter if the breed is not known for da. My rat terrier didn't have any problems with dogs, but all of a sudden she didn't tolerate them for whatever reason. I'm just not going to put a da DOG in the mix though. No matter the breed I think any dog could become da, so the risk in any dog is there, but I wouldn't risk it when the dog is already da.

Right now my dogs aren't crated, but when a da breed comes in the mix in the future, let it be the sweetest dog, crating will be order. I'm actually wanting to invest in some crates now though with the dogs I have, none who are da, but still.......I don't want any risks.

 

[Maxy24]

would you be willing to own a dog-aggressive dog?

yes if I didn't have any other dogs or the cats.

would you adopt a dog already known to be dog-aggressive?

yes, same as above.

what would you do if your own formerly unaggressive dog became dog-aggressive?

If I had another dog I would probably re-home who ever was newest. That said if the time came I don't know if I could do that but I also don't think I would be comfortable crate and rotating so I'm not really sure. If i had no other dogs then I'd just start working on managing the dog in public (focus command, ignore passing dogs and look to me etc.)

what would you do if your dog attacked another dog while your dog was off-leash in a public place?

If my dog was DA he would not be off leash so I assume you mean a non known DA dog. I would not put my dog down unless he was not able to be managed. I would of course pay all vet bills and my dog would never be off leash in public again. Until I can manage the dog properly in public through training he would be muzzled on walks with a basket muzzle.

 

[Dani]

My old dog Oki was dog aggresive. When we adopted him, we didn't know it. Had we known he was dog aggresive before we adopted him, we probably would still have adopted him. His dog agression was a bit of a hassle, but we worked around it.

He wouldn't have been able to attack another dog because he was always on leash when other dogs were near. But if Bear atttacked another dog, we would except the consequences, and Bear would get training and wouldn't be offleash around other dogs again.

 

[Bahamutt99]

would you be willing to own a dog-aggressive dog?

would you adopt a dog already known to be dog-aggressive?

what would you do if your own formerly unaggressive dog became dog-aggressive?

what would you do if your dog attacked another dog while your dog was off-leash in a public place?

Are you counting those of us with a dog-aggressive breed?

1. Yes. I accepted that risk when I decided to own APBTs.
2. That one is a no, since I don't bring in adult dogs.
3. I would deal with it.
4. I would kick my own rear for letting it happen. But the only time my dogs are off-leash in public is at the lake, or at a trial. In one case, its secluded and the risk is minimal. In the other case, they'd better be ready for the pressures of off-leash work.

 

[HoundedByHounds]

No. Not by choice. If I had a pup of my breeding come to me that way I'd have to deal. But having been a former Akita person...I am not interested at this time. I don't need my show dogs torn up...I don't want to live the gated life, I like having more than 2 dogs, and I have kids that don't need to be in the middle of a dog fight.

 

[Dekka]

There are levels of DA too.

There are some dogs who are out to eat all other dogs. Then there are some who don't like new dogs, black dogs etc etc. But who are fully capable of living well with other dogs.

 

[smkie]

i was going to stay away from this thread but i didn't and needless to say i am shocked at how many of people here feel they would adopt a DA dog. I have to wonder of those people how many of you have experienced a real dog fight, not just a b!tch slap fest. have seen throats torn open, eyes punctured, ears torn off, or have been bit trying to break up a fight. Do you have any idea how fast it happens? ANd the risk to all the people that are involved that might try to step in and save their dog. It is a very serious situation. I have been a proffesional trainer for over 2o years and you couldn't pay me to take one on like that. It makes me shudder to think that people with a great deal less experience would so willingly take that on. LIttel dogs bite hard too so it isn't just a large dog issue. I have had to break up 4 fights in the last few weeks and my stress level was off the chart from the experience.

I have a friend that just tried to work with a DA dog and that experience put a great deal at risk. I do not believe she handled it well, people were exposed to a really ugly scene in a public place. IT ended up jepordizing the right of other dogs to come to this establishment..yet she wrote..it caused no harm Yes it did. I still don't understand her thinking behind it. IT wasn't a young dog at al either, but a hot head from stem to stern. She took that dog into her home and as she told me "scared the sh!t out of all her dogs". Why would you do that to your own dogs..I really do not understand. All life is precious Yes, but there has to be a line somewhere. That is where i draw mine.

There are way too many non DA dogs that will never be given a chance and should before a DA dog. That is just common sense. IF you are a pro and if you are a pro you will know DA dogs that are adult and well established as DA dogs, are most likely never going to change. You can alter your lifestyle to accomidate, protect, and if your willing to go to those lengths, you best hope they do not get out, ever or no one else ever gets on your property. I can't gaurantee that here even if i had a 6 foot fence all the way around. THings happens and the risk is just huge. I commend those that do make the altered life style..and i wish them all the luck in the world. I guess i am just trying to make a point that i think a lot of people are not fully aware of how truly dangerous a dog fight is.