Word usage - Pet peeves
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Oh, if you wanna see nitpicky things that bug me: alot.
A. lot. A lot. IT'S TWO WORDS.
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I had a friend who was German, and he told me his wife (American) spoke better German than he could. It's because she learned technical grammar... and he didn't. So it's not just Americans and/or the English language. I think it's ANY language. Somebody who is a foreign speaker rather than a native one is probably going to be able to hit the technical sides of it better.
A. lot. A lot. IT'S TWO WORDS.
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I had a friend who was German, and he told me his wife (American) spoke better German than he could. It's because she learned technical grammar... and he didn't. So it's not just Americans and/or the English language. I think it's ANY language. Somebody who is a foreign speaker rather than a native one is probably going to be able to hit the technical sides of it better.
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Would that be "He and I?" but then again to me, He and I doesn't sound right.
Carrie no, you didn't offend me one bit. It was just an example. I used to be horrid at spelling and grammar, I never used proper punctuation or capitalization and my wording was a lot worse then it is now as well. How about.
Would that be more grammatically correct?
Oh and a few years ago had you asked me to spell some of these bigger words seen in my posts...well...I probably would have spelled them completely wrong and no I'm not using a spell check.
Carrie no, you didn't offend me one bit. It was just an example. I used to be horrid at spelling and grammar, I never used proper punctuation or capitalization and my wording was a lot worse then it is now as well. How about.
Would that be more grammatically correct?
Oh and a few years ago had you asked me to spell some of these bigger words seen in my posts...well...I probably would have spelled them completely wrong and no I'm not using a spell check.
I actually use double negatives on purpose fairly regularly. For example, I would say someone was "not unkind" -- meaning that the subject wasn't mean, but it's different than saying that the subject was actually nice. It's not incorrect, but because so many people learn that double negatives are BAD, it bugs some people.
Also, I bet it's the case that you understand English better than many native speakers. Good grammar has always been fairly natural for me, but it actually started to make more sense when I learned a second language in school.
Also, I bet it's the case that you understand English better than many native speakers. Good grammar has always been fairly natural for me, but it actually started to make more sense when I learned a second language in school.
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I once got into an arguement with my ex boyfriend about how salmon was pronounced. He had a very high IQ so I was pretty shocked when he stood there and kept telling me that the L is NOT silent. Ummm, yeah, I am from the pacific north west, I grew up on the stuff... I KNOW how salmon is pronounced. He is from tenessee and probably never ate a salmon in his life. I hate know it alls.
"May I please have a drink, he had said." (all one sentence...just use a comma after drink, not a period there.)
Although....it seems a little awkward to put the "had" in there, but it's not incorrect. I'd just leave it like, "May I please have a drink," he said.
Yeah Cricket.... He and I. The way you can tell, is to leave out the other person and try out the sentence, like Grammy showed. You wouldn't say, "Him went out." And you wouldn't say, "Me went out." Therefore, you don't say, "Him and me went out." It is in fact, "He and I went out." (He went out) (I went out) LOL. Actually, I haven't gone out with anyone for a long time.
Here's another thing...the I vs. me: John came with Mary and I to the store. (incorrect) It should be: John came with Mary and me to the store. Leave off one of the names. Would you say, John came with I to the store? No...you'd say, "John came with me to the store." But, if you say something like, "John, Mary and I went to the store" that is correct. I went to the store. You wouldn't say, Me went to the store. It's to do with who or what is the object or indirect object and who is the subject.
DIRECT vs. INDIRECT OBJECT
An object is a noun that is the recipient of the verb in the sentence. It's easier to demonstrate than to explain:
Xena grabbed her sword.
Xena is the subject, because she performs the verb. "Grabbed" is the verb; "her" is a possessive pronoun; the sword is the direct object because the grabbing is performed upon it.
Xena put her sword on the table.
Xena is the subject; "put" is the verb; the sword is the direct object; the table is the indirect object.
Grammar to me is fun...it's like a puzzle. Of course, I screw it up all the time. But I still am interested in it and like to figure things out when I'm not in such a hurry to write posts on Chaz. LOL.
Oh, and double negatives are not all wrong. That example about not being unkind (or whatever it was...I forget for sure) is not wrong... like saying, "I don't have nothing." It is a variation on the idea that someone is kind. But it takes on a slightly different meaning, doesn't it. It's like maybe the person isn't exactly going to make you jump for joy, he's so kind, but on the other hand, isn't exactly unkind either. LOL. So, I don't think that kind of double negative is wrong. It just adds more flavor to something.
Although....it seems a little awkward to put the "had" in there, but it's not incorrect. I'd just leave it like, "May I please have a drink," he said.
Yeah Cricket.... He and I. The way you can tell, is to leave out the other person and try out the sentence, like Grammy showed. You wouldn't say, "Him went out." And you wouldn't say, "Me went out." Therefore, you don't say, "Him and me went out." It is in fact, "He and I went out." (He went out) (I went out) LOL. Actually, I haven't gone out with anyone for a long time.
Here's another thing...the I vs. me: John came with Mary and I to the store. (incorrect) It should be: John came with Mary and me to the store. Leave off one of the names. Would you say, John came with I to the store? No...you'd say, "John came with me to the store." But, if you say something like, "John, Mary and I went to the store" that is correct. I went to the store. You wouldn't say, Me went to the store. It's to do with who or what is the object or indirect object and who is the subject.
DIRECT vs. INDIRECT OBJECT
An object is a noun that is the recipient of the verb in the sentence. It's easier to demonstrate than to explain:
Xena grabbed her sword.
Xena is the subject, because she performs the verb. "Grabbed" is the verb; "her" is a possessive pronoun; the sword is the direct object because the grabbing is performed upon it.
Xena put her sword on the table.
Xena is the subject; "put" is the verb; the sword is the direct object; the table is the indirect object.
Grammar to me is fun...it's like a puzzle. Of course, I screw it up all the time. But I still am interested in it and like to figure things out when I'm not in such a hurry to write posts on Chaz. LOL.
Oh, and double negatives are not all wrong. That example about not being unkind (or whatever it was...I forget for sure) is not wrong... like saying, "I don't have nothing." It is a variation on the idea that someone is kind. But it takes on a slightly different meaning, doesn't it. It's like maybe the person isn't exactly going to make you jump for joy, he's so kind, but on the other hand, isn't exactly unkind either. LOL. So, I don't think that kind of double negative is wrong. It just adds more flavor to something.