why do you think pitbulls are evil?
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Here is the truth about Pitbulls http://www.edba.org.au/courier.html I still like them though.
No, I found it very interesting.When the pitty evolved from breeding to produce a strong fighting dog....and is now trying to be an excepted family dog is quite a story. From what I've learned from Chaz members, they are such sweethearts. Our local vet loves them and say they are wonderful dogs. But, I'm sorry to say, when stray pittys are in my yard, panting and stressed... I cannot go out and check nametags etc as I do with other dogs. I just can't take the chance. Most strays I'll bring in until I can contact the owner. With my golden, they're safe...but do I dare take a chance with a Pitt.?? Maybe they should be color coded collar wise. All dogs with a CGD have a certain collar or tag.
"Dog trainer" Bruce Bonney would not touch my dog! The part about the poor dog who was gored by the boar "no brain no pain" and "believes most pitbulls are beyond redemption." Five week old puppies that had to be put down for aggression?! I'd be aggressive too, if someone picked me up and shook me! "Only suitable for guard work in a fenced area where no humans are allowed." This is NOT a dog trainer!!!
# A Rottweilers has 800psi (Pounds Per Squire Inch Jaw Pressure).
# A Bull Terrier has 1200psi,
# A pit bull’s bite force is 2000+ psi plus.
# A Pit Bull does not lock its jaw as do other dogs, but it lower jaw scissors back and forth to rend flesh from the bone.
# Pit Bulls are bred from Staffordshire Bull Terriers – Gaining their incredible musculature - and Bull Mastiffs Gaining a Cold-Hearted lack of emotion and Phenomenal resistance to pain.
That is just stupid
Any article that shows these "facts" is automatically assumed false. The only thing it does is to make them look like killing machines.Lets hear it again, pit bulls DONT have 1200-1600-2000+ PSI bite strength, thats just stupid. And no Rottweiler doesnt have it either.
Personally A rottie is far more dangerous when attacking a human then a pit.
They dont lock on... They bite and dont let go...
Trust me, that is much better then for example biting full mouth bite, then sharply shaking the whole body to try and tear huge pieces of flesh of.
Its much easier to fend of a pit who is stuck on your arm then some "other" dogs which try to tackle you and go for the throat.
Trust me, that is much better then for example biting full mouth bite, then sharply shaking the whole body to try and tear huge pieces of flesh of.
Its much easier to fend of a pit who is stuck on your arm then some "other" dogs which try to tackle you and go for the throat.
Well, I don't remember for sure, but the program I saw comparing cougar, bear and wolf bites....the pressure per square inch, I do believe that they said something along the lines of 1500 - 2000lb psi for wolves and 450 or 500 LBs psi. in most dogs. (maybe it was more) And less for cougars. And that wolves were a cougar's only "foe." I suppose one could find out if one goes to a reliable source. But I'm too lazy and don't care that much. I got a nasty dog bite from a rather small dog that required plastic surgery. The car I got in looked like there had been an axe murder. I had also, multiple puncture wounds and it was no fun, let me tell you. I sure wouldn't want a big dog with bigger teeth to bite me.
I beg to differ with you.
Some have more. There is a variance between breeds and sizes of dogs.
http://www.kerwoodwolf.com/BIOLOGY.htm (scroll down a ways if you don't want to read the whole thing. But the whole thing is interesting. There are many other sources of information besides this and they all say about the same thing, which was in agreement with what I recall watching on a National Geographic documentary)
Some have more. There is a variance between breeds and sizes of dogs.
http://www.kerwoodwolf.com/BIOLOGY.htm (scroll down a ways if you don't want to read the whole thing. But the whole thing is interesting. There are many other sources of information besides this and they all say about the same thing, which was in agreement with what I recall watching on a National Geographic documentary)
You're going to argue that pit bulls have 1500+ psi jaws? Rofl. Ok...
Also, they dont grind their lower jaw, thats physically impossible.
Here's an exerpt from ACF:
The American Canine Foundation states:
"According to the current scientific research there is no proof that the Pit
Bull can bite harder than any other breed. There is no proof that the Pit
Bull is genetically vicious and statistics have been greatly manipulated.
Environment, training and socialization play a much greater part in the
temperament of an individual dog than genetic traits."
(ACF2003)
Where did I say that? Don't be so hasty in the intoxication of your exuberance to laugh .
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Who said anything about grinding their lower jaw?
Like all large carnivores, wolves have strong jaws and teeth. Like humans, wolves possess incisors, canine teeth, premolars and molars. A wolf's jaw, akin with other canines, is armed with 42 teeth. The small incisors are used for nibbling, such as cleaning the meat off bones. The purpose of the wolf's long, pointed, and very strong canine teeth is to capture and hold prey. Wolves use their teeth as sort of a vise, and also, to tear food apart. The grinding molars at the back of a wolf's mouth, called carnassial teeth, are used to chew food up.
It is estimated that a wolf's jaw can exert more than 1500 pounds of pressure per square inch. It's easy to see how a wolf is capable of breaking the femur of an adult moose. "The power of a wolf's bite is incredible," says David Mech. He recounts watching wolves on the run leap at the rump of an adult moose and rip it open, even though this meant tearing through four inches of finely packed hair and a thick hide. He notes that wolves also hook their fangs into the rubbery nose of a moose and "can cling there despite the swinging head of the moose, which may even raise the wolf off the ground."
Wolves strong teeth and jaws are connected to strong skulls which are large, long, and taper forward, averaging nine to eleven inches long and five to six inches wide. Mech notes that the "volume of the brain case is 150 to 170 cm3, which is at least 30 cm3 greater than that of most dogs."
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Who said anything about grinding their lower jaw?
Like all large carnivores, wolves have strong jaws and teeth. Like humans, wolves possess incisors, canine teeth, premolars and molars. A wolf's jaw, akin with other canines, is armed with 42 teeth. The small incisors are used for nibbling, such as cleaning the meat off bones. The purpose of the wolf's long, pointed, and very strong canine teeth is to capture and hold prey. Wolves use their teeth as sort of a vise, and also, to tear food apart. The grinding molars at the back of a wolf's mouth, called carnassial teeth, are used to chew food up.
It is estimated that a wolf's jaw can exert more than 1500 pounds of pressure per square inch. It's easy to see how a wolf is capable of breaking the femur of an adult moose. "The power of a wolf's bite is incredible," says David Mech. He recounts watching wolves on the run leap at the rump of an adult moose and rip it open, even though this meant tearing through four inches of finely packed hair and a thick hide. He notes that wolves also hook their fangs into the rubbery nose of a moose and "can cling there despite the swinging head of the moose, which may even raise the wolf off the ground."
Wolves strong teeth and jaws are connected to strong skulls which are large, long, and taper forward, averaging nine to eleven inches long and five to six inches wide. Mech notes that the "volume of the brain case is 150 to 170 cm3, which is at least 30 cm3 greater than that of most dogs."
This "Article" is so full of lies it is unreal. First of it said that 42% of all deaths are caused by pitbulls...This is untrue, according to the CDC 33% are cause by "pitbull" type breeds. There are a lot of dogs that are lumped into this classification. (25+) breeds. This also does take into account misidentification. I have seen story where it was a "pitbull" attack and the picture showing the dog was a Lab.
The "Article" also says that the Pitbull is 1% of the total dogs...that is laughable to anyone who has driven through the inner-city where many of the maulings take place. In the city of Chicago, 80% of all dogs in the inner city are pitbull type dogs.
Another line of BS is that the pitbull is bred from the bullmastiff....lol. The Pitbull comes from the White Terrier and the Bulldog (old version not todays). The Staffordshire Bull terrier is just the English version of the Pitbull.
One of the posts in this thread said that no pro-pitbull websites have stats....check out this one.http://www.furryfriendsfoundation.c...h03/Truth03.htm
One stat you will see that pitbull pass the humane society's tempermant test over 80% of the time, while the average dog only passes 77% of the time.
The pitbulls strength as a fighter comes from there unwillness to quit and high threshold of pain. Sure they are strong and quick dogs but not in some magical or super way....they are just dogs. They are not mythical killing machines that down right stupid website.
On thing I read in this thread that is true, Wolves have been know to corner and kill a cougar, and they are the only known predator of the cougar...besides man.
I have said this many times, but Pitbulls are actually better and more stable around humans than most. As "pitfighters" they had to be handled by humans, often strangers while injuried. This required a very human friendly dog. Pitbulls that bit trainers or that were unstable were put down and thus culled from breeding stock.
This "Article" is false to the point of absurdity.
The "Article" also says that the Pitbull is 1% of the total dogs...that is laughable to anyone who has driven through the inner-city where many of the maulings take place. In the city of Chicago, 80% of all dogs in the inner city are pitbull type dogs.
Another line of BS is that the pitbull is bred from the bullmastiff....lol. The Pitbull comes from the White Terrier and the Bulldog (old version not todays). The Staffordshire Bull terrier is just the English version of the Pitbull.
One of the posts in this thread said that no pro-pitbull websites have stats....check out this one.http://www.furryfriendsfoundation.c...h03/Truth03.htm
One stat you will see that pitbull pass the humane society's tempermant test over 80% of the time, while the average dog only passes 77% of the time.
The pitbulls strength as a fighter comes from there unwillness to quit and high threshold of pain. Sure they are strong and quick dogs but not in some magical or super way....they are just dogs. They are not mythical killing machines that down right stupid website.
On thing I read in this thread that is true, Wolves have been know to corner and kill a cougar, and they are the only known predator of the cougar...besides man.
I have said this many times, but Pitbulls are actually better and more stable around humans than most. As "pitfighters" they had to be handled by humans, often strangers while injuried. This required a very human friendly dog. Pitbulls that bit trainers or that were unstable were put down and thus culled from breeding stock.
This "Article" is false to the point of absurdity.
I know...I got slightly off track going off about wolves. But, my point was that there are differing amounts of strength in different dogs and I found it interesting that the wolf had vastly more strength in their bite. The thing about the Pit Bull, is that he has a very strong jaw. But that doesn't mean that they're locking their jaw and it doesn't mean that they are all aggressive, mean spirited dogs that should be banned. They are tenacious and determined when they do bite. I think I read that a GSD has 750 psi. I didn't get into it too much so don't know the different breeds, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.
Lots of dogs are dog aggressive. If a dog who has some extra amount of protection instinct is bred from good temperament and handled correctly, they are great family pets.
Lots of dogs are dog aggressive. If a dog who has some extra amount of protection instinct is bred from good temperament and handled correctly, they are great family pets.
