White GSD, Dobermans, and Boxers

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  1. sprintime

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    Just to clarify something - the white GSD is not excluded from the show ring if registered with ckc . It can go into the ring but the reason you don't see them is that although they can be shown, no judge will ever put them up, the standard requires it to be standard in every aspect including colour. So it's wasting an entry fee to put the dog in, probably another good reason for not entering them.
     
  2. Southpaw

    Southpaw orange iguanas.

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    The GSD/swiss shepherd thing reminds me of cairn terriers. Westies are, really, just white cairn terriers because white is a DQ for cairns as well. Obviously in that case, there are no health problems associated with the color if Westies are the result.

    With boxers, it's a DQ if over 1/3 of their markings are white. Deafness is common among white boxers... Juno's breeder has a white girl who has no issues, but out of the 2 deaf dogs I've ever met, one of them was a white boxer.
     
  3. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    There is deafness in JRTs.. but they can be all white no issues.. they just have to be minimum 1/2 white.
     
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    Sable is the dominant color so I'd expect most dogs from good breeders should be the dominant color. Why not look at a malinois?
     
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    White in Boxers is just the extreme white spotting gene. I've always found the stigma about white Boxers peculiar. Sure, they are sometimes deaf. But, it's the same genetics that you find in white Bull Terriers, Dogo Argentinos, and a modification on what you find in Dalmatians and Australian Cattle Dogs. Somehow none of those breeds have managed to implode, and most of them actually can hear and are no less healthy than the average breed.

    Here is a good link on white Boxers: http://bit.ly/6PjQTW
     
  6. Xandra

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    I read the reason white GSD's were selected against was because they didn't stand out against the sheep enough.

    Black is recessive, yet common enough, so no real reason white couldn't be, even if sable is dominant.

    I like them. Someday I'm going to figure how to get a working one. Does white occur in mals or dutch shepherds?
     
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    I don't think so. I've seen livers, blues, and tanpoints, but not white or even ee yellows. It wouldn't shock me though, as they are all so closely related.
     
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    Dekka Just try me..

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    My understanding is that its the pattern that is recessive not the colour. But yes even recessive colours are common enough in many breeds. Black (and white) is dominant in JRTs to tan and white.. yet the black and white is more rare.
     
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    Sable is a pattern isn't it?
     
  10. Romy

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    I'd have to ask him, but my guess is that the K9 handlers are used to working GSDs and mals are a bit different, so to speak ;). People tend to gravitate toward what they're familiar with.

    I did like these whites, it looks like this kennel has been doing things right for a couple of decades now. Google translate makes some bizarre translations though, lol. "Stallions" They do have some of their swiss shepherds working as police dogs.

    LES BERGERS BLANCS SUISSES DES GARDIENS DU PACTE
     
  11. DanL

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    I think the practice of culling whites in GSDs goes back way farther than the 60's. It's been considered a breed fault since the breed was developed and culling was a common practice back then. They wouldn't know if it could work because it would never be given the chance.
     
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    Yes it goes back way past the 60's, and it was considered a fault almost from inception of the breed.
     
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    Vintage Boxers Boxer Buddy

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