Thanks Jess! I was at some event where BP started talking. Its well known he thinks carrying small dogs causes all sorts of ills, like aggression etc and it makes a dog hard to train. I made a point to carry Dekka around I was hoping he would pull me out and I could point out just how trained my dog is LOL. But it was at the end and he was done pulling people out. One lady with a rescued BC told him off for grabbing her leash. In front of the crowd.