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  1. Pops2

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    anyone got any leads on working wheatens in the USA. we are moving to UT soon and i will be needing a den dog for coyote chasing. will probably get a nice little pit 30-35#, pitXpat or jrt, maybe airedaleXjagd but am interested in other terriers that might do the job (already figured out jagds, irish & smaller breeds too small for coyotes work).
     
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    I wouldn't even know where to start looking, honestly. That breed has been so screwed up by showing and BYB's/petstores that I honestly couldn't imagine anyone is still out there breeding for something else.

    Make sure you stop by Denver and say howdy. ;)
     
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    drmom777 Bloody but Unbowed

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    I know there are people breeding working Airdales--that might be a better bet.
     
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    yeah, if i go w/ a pure dale it'll be a redline of Matt Thoms mogollon lines as they are the smallest working dales but they are still usually bigger than what i want. i might however get the smallest good working gyp i can find & put her under a good jagd the cumberland pack has some good dogs and a hoghunter i know down in TX has a dynamite coldnosed one that catches him a lot of hogs.
    it's just going to be a hard niche to fill, 30-35# is ideal and up to 40# wll likely work but over 40# is going to be too big.
     
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    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    I've never seen or heard of a true working Wheaton in the US ... :( Maybe they do exist ...
     
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    A wheaten versus a coyote? Aint that a little small to be going after a coyote?
     
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    not in a den. its no different than sending a pat or jack into a hole after a fox. the important thing is that me & the sonic weasel will be sitting right outside the hole. if the coyote bolts the weasel shound catch it and hold it for me to catch & tie. if it doesn't bolt for the terrier, i dig just enough to pull the terrier out. then we ambush it when it comes out to see if we've left.
     
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    I did a Google search for a good 20 minutes last night and the closest I came was a guy in the UK selling a working bitch. No kennels, no contacts, nothing.
     
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    Ah, thanks for the clarification.
     
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    i went to the club site & looked at the breeder list. there is 1 in UT, 6 in CO, & 10 in AZ. i'll start there by e-mailing them for info. I may try an incorrigible cat killer from rescue, IF the pedigree is known.
     
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    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    How about a Lakeland or Irish Terrier?? Maybe harder to find, but usually have truer terrier drive ...
     
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    Pops, what about a Kerry blue? I think you will have much better luck in a pat x or jagd x, personally. The purebred AKC terriers are completely F'd up.

    What about a blue lacey or lacey x terrier? The size range is about right.
     
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    the irish & lakey are too small for coyote.

    Artfish
    the wheaten is still a working breed in ireland where it is used to draw fax & badger. but the kerry blue is a nonworker even there.
    the lacey or Mt cur to a small pit is an idea i've considered. i do think the pitX to a pat or jrt or jagdX airedale are likely to be the best choice
     
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    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    It sounds like you've got a 'build your own' situation there ... ;)
     
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    Depressing.

    I vote Jagd x airedale x pit. And a lifetime supply of energy drinks to keep up. ;) You will have to keep us updated with your choice!
     
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    I would be shocked if you found a working wheaten here.

    From what I understand, the breed has been pretty decimated by BYBs, especially in New York where they are known as the "perfect apartment dog." I can't imagine that, but ah well.

    I'm curious as to what you'll find. Good luck.
     
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    dear lord! i cannot imagine having a wheaten in an apartment... those must be some seriously messed up wheatens...
     
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    Old thread but curious if you ever found what you were after?
     
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    No things came up & I haven't gotten to hunt enough to justify getting a den dog.
     

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