Whats with all the _______doodles?

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Labradoodle, doberdoodle, aussiedoodle, golden doodle, and there are plenty more. what is up with this new trend of breeding MUTTS? I am not one to criticize breeders who do it responsibly, but anyone who breeds mutts is not responsible. Why do people breed poodles with other pure bred dogs anyway. is it because poodles are nonallergenic and shed little or what? why dont people just buy a poodle then. My In laws have a lab and now they are talking about breeding her with a poodle. i dont understand why they would do this,I guess for the money, but labradoodles dont sell for much here anyway. Hopefully they dont go through with it. Dogs should only be bred if they are pure bred , health tested, fits the breed standard, good temperment etc. and registered also. I just really hate looking online and in the newspaper to see people going nuts over these new designer breeds AKA mutts. Stupid people. :mad:
 

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People have this misconception about poodles. I really believe that is where it all stems from. They see the poodle as "froo-froo" and yippy and aloof.... so then they think "hey, what if I breed a dog known for being friendly and 'rough and ready' to a poodle and get that hypoallergenic coat onto a 'cool' dog?"

They just don't know how cool a poodle is! How "rough and ready" and friendly and funny and trainable and good with kids a poodle really is.

Sad, isn't it? So little research goes into every form of BYBing :(
 

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OMG there was a labradoodle bitch, blonde, puppy in the paper today and my mum was asking me wat a labadoodle was, (she said they sounded nice)
cause we're getting a dog soon!
but thank-god she wants a small dog and even better with shorthair, cause she thought they were cute, but they just didnt meet wat we wanted!!!
thank-god!!!!!
and they were over-priced!, and all for a designer mutt!
 

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Sorry Stevinski
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand...however, I just got really embarrassed over your avatar.
I'm at work, somebody came up behind me and thought it was a male, umm special area. Hehehe.
If it's your pet, cool...if not could you get a different colour lizard for the avatar maybe?
 

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lol!!!
i dont really see the resemblance myself! but anyway
yes she is my pet! shes my little babie, her names Sidney shes a bearded dragon and tht is a picture of her after a shed with a extraordinary colour tht not many beardies show!
but at least she got noticed (even if it was for the wrong reasons) lol!!!
 
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stevinski said:
lol!!!
i dont really see the resemblance myself! but anyway
yes she is my pet! shes my little babie, her names Sidney shes a bearded dragon and tht is a picture of her after a shed with a extraordinary colour tht not many beardies show!
but at least she got noticed (even if it was for the wrong reasons) lol!!!
Oooh poor girl dont tell her lol, i think she is lovely i love them
 

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Aussiedoodle? Say it ain't so!!!

Yeah, i was looking at the newspaper the other day at the dog section and i came across Aussiedoodles. I dont know if that means austrailian shepard/poodle, or austrailian cattle dog/poodle. This really makes me mad becuase i looovvvee Cattle Dogs. I also talked to a person who bred a austrailian cattle dog with a austrailian shepard and they call them Aussie Heelers. Crazy.
 

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I found this ad on a website and had to share it, 1200.00! for a mutt. Seriously these things only sell for 500.00 max in the OKC paper. People are crazy, whats even crazier is people actually buy these mutts for 1200.00!



Lizzie Labradoodle Kennel Puppies For Sale
www.lizzielabradoodles.tripod.com/
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$1,200.00

Lizzie Labradoodle Kennel Puppies For Sale Please don't forget to check out our website, and if you are really interested in buying one of our puppies please call me or e-mail me. Our puppies will be arriving in March and will be ready for new homes in May. We are taking deposits NOW! both parents are registered, mom- yellow lab., dad-black standard poodle.

And why does it matter if both parents are registered, the pups cant be. Hopefully the AKC never ever considers recognizing these dogs, surely they wouldnt. This issue just makes me so mad. If you want a mutt, go to the shelter and save one, it would also save you like 1100.00
 

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I swear that people just like saying 'doodle' or something!! they love the name........so maybe they should just call their dog doodle and get over the crazy designer breeds.
 
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The sad part is it's a FAD!! Once this fad is over, then what? And have any of you seen full-grown puggles? I'm sorry, but yuck!! Pugs are cute... beagles are cute... but puggles? Blech!! :mad:

Another board I was on, a guy bought a doodle for $1,200 and would NOT listen to ANYTHING anyone said to him about how silly they were and why not a poodle and how breeding doodles is not a good thing because they don't breed "True" every time. Sigh. He would not listen.

I hope to heck this "fad" ends soon. The shelters are full enough :(
 

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There are labradoodles and golden doodles for sale in my paper right now. It makes me laugh becaues they do it in seperate adds like no one will notice they are breeding a ton! I tihk they want 1500:rolleyes: Last time labradoodles were for sale the add rna for months and finally went half price:D So not everyone is ignorant.
 
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bjdobson said:
Another board I was on, a guy bought a doodle for $1,200 and would NOT listen to ANYTHING anyone said to him about how silly they were and why not a poodle and how breeding doodles is not a good thing because they don't breed "True" every time. Sigh. He would not listen.:(
Hi bjdobson...
you're missed....
i agree, that "guy" was a bit pigheaded...too bad so many are buying into this fad.
 

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I considered getting a golden/poodle mix, and I still might after my puppy is a bit older. I don't plan on going to a shelter any time soon, because I want health tests on the parents and health guarantees for the puppy (at a minimum) if I'm getting a dog.

I could see getting upset about people who just hand their dogs over to anyone with cash, but this whole idea that everyone who breeds mixes is a bad person who only cares about money is just crazy. And after the fad is over, there are going to be a lot of doodle owners who have nice dogs that they got from nice breeders. Just like there are a lot of purebred owners who got dogs from nice breeders. There will also always be people who bought purebred pets from bad breeders, and those who bought mixes from bad breeders.

All of the breeds we have today came from people breeding animals to get different traits. That's the same thing that's happening now and imo it's not a bad thing.
 

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This is an ad from our local paper:

Goldendoodle puppies, parents, AKC, & hip cert. hlth guaranteed. $800

Its all about $$ for these people. Most of them think that by breeding dogs like this they are doing it for the best traits of each breed, but don't realize that they might get the worst traits of each breed.
 
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keller said:
I could see getting upset about people who just hand their dogs over to anyone with cash, but this whole idea that everyone who breeds mixes is a bad person who only cares about money is just crazy. And after the fad is over, there are going to be a lot of doodle owners who have nice dogs that they got from nice breeders. Just like there are a lot of purebred owners who got dogs from nice breeders. There will also always be people who bought purebred pets from bad breeders, and those who bought mixes from bad breeders.

All of the breeds we have today came from people breeding animals to get different traits. That's the same thing that's happening now and imo it's not a bad thing.
No, it's not the same thing.

If these dogs were being bred for ANY PURPOSE other than to supply the pet trade, it might be different.

The original "doodle" breeding program was abandoned in Australia after they could not get F2 and F3 crosses to breed true.

ANYONE breeding "doodles" of any kind is doing it for one reason.

$$$$$$$$$$

It is a disservice to both breeds.

If you want a curly coated retriever, then get one. There is already such a breed.
 

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RedyreRottweilers said:
No, it's not the same thing.

If these dogs were being bred for ANY PURPOSE other than to supply the pet trade, it might be different.

The original "doodle" breeding program was abandoned in Australia after they could not get F2 and F3 crosses to breed true.

ANYONE breeding "doodles" of any kind is doing it for one reason.

$$$$$$$$$$

It is a disservice to both breeds.

If you want a curly coated retriever, then get one. There is already such a breed.
Or, maybe they're doing it for the love of that particular mix. Thanks, but I don't have any interest in getting a curly coated retriever. I am open minded, and if anyone can show me proof that damage is being done to either breed, or that there is something wrong with this particular mix, then I'd be interested. I'm not going to say that I'll agree, but it's always nice to have more information. Every dog breed that we have was created by humans because we wanted something from them. Dogs themselves were created by humans because we wanted them for some particular purpose. Humans have been manipulating animals and the earth itself for our own gain ever since we got here. In the beginning it might have been a matter of life and death. But it hasn't been like that for a long time for most of the western world.

How do we, and the dogs benefit from having another set of purbred poodles, or goldens, or labs, and what do we and the dogs lose when someone makes a doodle litter instead, after having tested the parents, interviewed homes, offered health contracts that give refunds on dogs with genetic problems, take back the dogs that they've bred with no questions asked etc?
 

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The point is keller, that there are tons of mutts available that dont have homes. and people are not benefitted by these designer mutts. if you mix a poodle with a lab, some of the puppies will have the lab qualities and some will have the poodle qualities and there isnt a way to tell until they get older which puppies have which qualities. If these people were trying to create a new breed of dog for a specific reason that would be different, but all they are doing is breeding a poodle with as many different breeds of dogs as possible. it takes a long time and a lot of work and knowlegde to create a new breed, i bet the first people who created labradors are rolling over in their graves everytime a lab is bred to a poodle.
 

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