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  1. Elia&Blazer

    Elia&Blazer New Member

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    What do y'all think about dog breeding? I was thinking that there are lots of dogs in pounds that need homes to cause my Dad and I were thinking we may start dog breeding. Now I don't know because there are so many dogs and cats that need homes in the pounds.
     
  2. It is a long road to becoming a responsible breeder.
     
  3. Dobiegurl

    Dobiegurl Guest

    I don't think breeding the right way is wrong. There are many people out there breeding for the wrong reasons, like for money instead for the love of the breed. Those are the people responsible for the dogs in shelters. When I grow up I plan on breeding but I am researching and gathering infromation about it so I can produce the best puppies. Resposible breeding is not just taking two dogs with papers and breeding them, there is alot more involved. You have to figure out what you are breeding for and go from their.
     
  4. rottiegirl

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    I personaly dont think its right to breed if there are so many in pounds. If your breed is extremely popular, and there are many in pounds, then I dont think you should breed at all. Even if you are a responsible breeder.

    There are too many GSDs, pits, chihuahuas, etc. in dog pounds.
     
  5. jess2416

    jess2416 Who woulda thought

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    and a whole lot of labs...
     
  6. JennSLK

    JennSLK F150 and a .30-06

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    So people should stop showing then rottiegirl? After all if no one bred there would be no more show dogs, and preserving the bloodlines.
     
  7. bubbatd

    bubbatd Moderator

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    If you've had a certain breed for many years and have a reason to breed and know what you're doing , then I think it's fine. It took me 15 years to even think of a litter. I had a mentor who suggested it as I had one of his show females and he thought she was a great b*tch and wanted pick of the litter. All his Goldens were in the golden hall of fame... both in showing and obedience.
     
  8. Dobiegurl

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    Thats exactly how I feel. Some people want to show their dogs but wouldn't be able to because the dogs in the pounds don't have papers.

    I blame the number of purebred dogs in the shelter on the people who rush out and buy a dog without knowing the breed just because they are popular. Like when dog movies come out everyone rushes out to get that dog. That happened with St. Bernards, Dalmations and unfortunately will happen to Alaskan Malamutes and Siberin Huskies because of eight below. People who want quality show dogs would not dump their dogs in the pound. These people research the breed and you can tell who just wants the dog just because, and who loves the breed and wants a quality purebred.
     
  9. Dobiegurl

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    Exactly!!! Breeding is not just putting two dogs together, its more of learning your breed and gaining experience in the breed and then you go from there. It is a long process and should not be taken lightly.
     
  10. rottiegirl

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    If you have been breeding for quite some time, then its fine. But if you are thinking about becoming a breeder of a popuar breed, then I dont think you should do it. We have enough breeders of certain breeds already.

    Pick a rare breed.
     
  11. Dobiegurl

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    I don't think its fair to those people who love a popular breed not to be able to breed them. If people stayed away from labs and GSD's then there will be a new popular breed and the cycle will go on and on. I don't think the people who have a popular breed should have to suffer the consequence of not breeding their beloved breed because other people are stupid and ignorant.
     
  12. JennSLK

    JennSLK F150 and a .30-06

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    Well said Dobie gurl

    I love dobes. Someday I hope to gain enough knowledge and experiance to become a breeder. I dont care if the dobe is rare by then or the #1 breed. I will breed the breed I want.
     
  13. moe

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    I think breeding is fine if you have done your homework and are breeding to improve your line, and only breed from suitable good examples of the breed, I also think that a good breeder should be extremely careful who they sell their pups to, not just the first person to walk through the door or show an interest, but to sell to people that have done the research, that have been after the breed for some time, etc also for the breeder to have contract drawn up so that under any circumstances the new owner can no longer keep the dog it gets returned to the breeder,this way it will reduce the chance of that pup going into a shelter. before breeding you need to think to yourself, what if they all come back? do I have the room to keep them all?

    Mo
     
  14. IliamnasQuest

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    We NEED great breeders to maintain the quality in the breed. Most of those that you see in the pounds are not high quality animals .. they are the product of casual breedings from dogs that are not necessarily true to the breed standard and usually not health screened. If we stop the great breeders then pretty soon the breed will degenerate.

    That being said .. to be a great breeder takes a lot of work and money. Registration papers mean nothing more than the owners of the dam and sire attesting that they did breed these two purebred dogs. Those papers tell nothing of quality and no health tests (or temperament or intelligence tests) are required. A great breeder understands the bloodlines and the qualities and flaws in each dog they deal with. They do the necessary tests to prove their dog is worthy of breeding: hip and elbow x-rays, eyes certified clean, thyroid and vonWillebrand's disease and whatever else is common in that particular breed. They prove that the dog is worthy by showing it in some venue that allows the dog to show its athleticism and intelligence. They have it assessed as to breed type and conformation.

    And then they build a database of potential owners before they breed. They check references and require extensive applications to make sure that the potential owners will truly give the dog a good home and hopefully a forever home.

    Being a great breeder is not easy. People do it because they love the breed, not because they want to make money.

    Elia&Blazer, there are a lot of different things people can get into but dog breeding isn't one of those that is a huge money maker unless you're willing to prove the quality of your dogs (and that takes a lot of years) or you're willing to be a puppy mill (and in that case, you're just adding to the dogs in the pound).

    I hope this helps you make your decision.

    Melanie and the gang in Alaska
     
  15. stevinski

    stevinski Int CH - $uperBitch

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    why don't u take up dog showing instead of dog breeding, dog shows are alot of fun and it could lead to breeding anyway.
    Just do some research into some high quality kennels, get a dog close to breed standard and you can start showing.
     
  16. So where are the good dogs supposed to come from if all the responsible breeders stop breeding?

    4 to 6 years and you are out of all the good stock.
     
  17. Mordy

    Mordy Quigleyfied

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    First learn the differences between "breeding" and "making puppies" and learn everything you can about it, then think about whether you should do it or not. :)
     
  18. gaddylovesdogs

    gaddylovesdogs no touchy

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    I think in order to maintain all the breeds, there need to be responsible breeders. However, I don't see the point of becoming a breeder of a breed that already has enough breeders.
     
  19. Dobiegurl

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    It has nothing to do with the surplus of that breed, it has to do with your love for the breed. Some people fall in love with popular breeds and should be able to breed their favorite breed.
     
  20. Saje

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    Grammy stopped breeding goldens because they were being so overbred. She loves her breed and understood it enough to know that there didn't need to be even more of them. I really respect that.

    A good breeder won't breed unless they have homes before so I guess if a breed is overpopulated they just won't be breeding that often!
     

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