Vomiting and Digestion problems.

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  1. Tazwell

    Tazwell New Member

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    Okay, for all of you that are interested... Here's the update.

    We went to the vet Monday, and got bloodwork, a fecal, and of course a HW test.

    The HW test and fecal were negative. Free of any parasites.

    When the vet got to Fleetwood's bloodwork results, the first thing she said was "It blew my mind." :wall: She says that nothing concerns her as far as his organs go, but His white blood cell count was WAY high. And the majority of them were lymphocytes, which is way unusual for a dog of his age. And to boot, the cells themselves were abnormal. She ordered some kind of pathology test on the cells, and the results of that test will be in tomorrow....

    Forgive me if I get any of that slightly wrong, I don't know all the technical lingo. Fleetwood's stool has been the consistency of water the past few days, and he threw up partially digested food 3 times this morning. When we went in on Monday, She noticed that every part of his body was unusually dry-- his paw pads, his skin, everything-- it's like he's not absorbing any of the moisture that he's taking in. She also said that the dry skin is causing secondary infections on his skin.

    As for his shoulder... She did do another X-ray, and sure enough, there's an OCD injury. Osteochondritis Dissecans. They're confident that it can be fixed with a sort of stem cell treatment called PRP. Platelet Rich Plasma. It sounds incredible- he gets blood drawn, They isolate platelets, and he gets them injected into the site of the injury-- they say that we'll start to see improvement in as little as a week! Sounds great, I hope it works!

    I'm done with dog food. I stopped at the grocery store on my way home and then cooked up a big batch of hamburger and rice with bonemeal and oil. That's what he's eating until we can come up with a better game plan. He's going in tomorrow for fluid treatment, and we'll hopefully have the pathology results back by then.

    I also took Gina in with him for pretty much the same work-up. According to the bloodwork, She's got signs of cushing's disease. We'll be doing an X-ray and ultrasound later this week or next week to work on figuring that out.
     
  2. Saeleofu

    Saeleofu Active Member

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    Yay for answers!

    ~~~VIBES~~~ that everything works out the way it should, and that you can finally have a healthy Fleetwood after it's all said and done :D Also vibes for his remaining bloodwork and for Gina!
     
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    I hope that you get some answers and that it's nothing serious.

    Has he been tested for Ehrlichia? That can sometimes cause a high lymphocyte count.
     
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    Thank you for the well-wishes!

    Elegy, I've never heard of Ehrlichia. I'm going to google that now. We didn't talk about any possible "could be"s, the vet wanted to wait until the test results come back tomorrow so she knows a little more.
     
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    Sending good thoughts for your pups! Hopefully the cooked meals help.

    And I've heard about that stem-cell therapy before. It sounds like it would have been GREAT to treat Jinj for his arthritis, but I'm worried his heart might not keep up with him much longer. I'm interested to know though, about how much it's going to cost, I always imagined when I read about it that it would be something pretty astronomical.

    It is a tick born illness. The snap test that our vet uses for heartworm also checks for 3 tick born illnesses which includes this one.
     
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    Tazwell, contact Sabine with Better Dog Care. She was on Chaz for a long time (her sn was Mordy) and she is a master at dog nutrition and crafting the perfect diet for his needs. MisssAshby had her draw up a plan for one of her doxies that had seizures--he's been seizure-free ever since.
     
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    I did research Ehrlichia, and at first glance it doesn't sound very likely (but still a possibility of course!). Fleetwood has never had a tick, or if he has, it hasn't been there long enough for me to even see it. But we'll see!

    Welsh, they quoted me about $350 for the PRP treatment because my vet can do it in house. How cool is that!

    Zoom, I will definitely keep that in mind-- I need to figure out what's wrong with him, but then I might definitely do that! I think I remember Mordy from ages ago. Thanks!
     
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    So we went back to see the vet today. Fleetwood got Fluids to help him stay hydrated. The results of his bloodwork came back, and the doctor was upset about what she found. I can't recall everything that was said, but she is concerned that we may be looking at the early stages of Leukemia. We're doing a pancreatitis test on Monday, because that's also a possibility-- I really am hoping it's as simple as that!

    One of the doctors is an Oncologist... So the fact that she suspects leukemia scares me a lot. He's lost almost 3lbs since Monday, and the doctor says he has muscle deteriation. This is a drastic change in less than 4 days... I'm very worried about him.
     
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    ~~~~~~VIBES~~~~~~ that it's not leukemia and is something simple!

    ((hugs))
     
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    I really really hope it's not leukemia. Sending many good vibes!
     
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    Oh NO! :(
    Lots of good vibes your way~~~~~


    EDIT: almost couldn't find it. A page you might be interested in-
    http://www4.ncsu.edu/~n51ls801/mct.html

    EDIT2: OH MY GOSH :yikes:!!! I decided to go look up Roxanne's parents...Her sire was already highlighted in the database :confused:, I had clicked on him once before already, he's Fleetwood's Great-Grandsire! I'm going to have to look into this more, but just thought you should know this.
     
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    Welsh... I didn't see this until just now!! I must have looked before you edited it. I got chills while reading it!! I'm going to look, but I'm on mobile... Is there anyway that you can give me links to the pedigree(s)?

    Thank you SO MUCH! I want to give all this information to the vet tomorrow. You are INCREDIBLEY helpful!



    Edit:
    Nevermind, I got 'em :)
     
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    Sending healing vibes and lots of hugs to both of you.
     
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    Hey, how's Fleetwood doing?
     
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    Oh wow, I completely forgot to update-- Thanks for reminding me, elegy!

    It took a while to get his test results back-- but it turns out he has Pancreatic insufficiency. It doesn't explain the lymphocyte count, so the doctor Is still very concerned about that. But she's hoping that because his Pancreas has screwed with his immune system so much, that that symptom was an indirect affect of his condition.

    He has just started a new medication called PancrePlus. He's been on it for 3 days, and so far no better-- in fact, worse-- than before. But it's only been 3 days, I have to give it time.

    I gave him a bath the day he started it, and then the next day he was covered in bumps (hives?). I also gave him zukes training treats, which aren't on our usual menu, so I'm starting to wonder which thing caused the reaction. Maybe he is allergic to pork or chicken? The PancrePlus is just beef, pork, and lamb pancreas.

    At any rate, well figure it out! Let's keep our fingers crossed that after 1 month of PancrePlus his lymphocyte count is back to normal.
     
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    I believe Sizzle's corgi has EPI, you might want to hit her up for some tips.

    VIBES Fleetwood improves with time! Thanks for the update.
     
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    *Bump* Hope no one minds me doing that.

    How is he doing lately?


    Also, just wanted to update a bit on pedigree research. I found the rotten apple, his name is "Vars de Mavourneen", I would highly suggest not buying a dog where he appears on both side of the pedigree. That's all I'll say for now.
     
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    The skin problem is well enough under control (not completely gone, but better). His overall condition is not that great. For the first time since September, he's back on dog food consistently-- three weeks now, I believe. Up until recently he hasn't been able to eat anything other than meat and rice.

    He still vomits all the time, usually when his tummy is empty. It's no longer bile, though, it's darker and has specks of what looks like blood or tissue in it. He vomits Tagamet or Pepcid ac, usually when I give that to him.

    Some days he can't get enough to eat, others he'll go days without wanting to eat. I his tummy is empty, he has major problems. The vet gave us pancrezyme, but that made him violently ill at every attempt. I thought that he was allergic to pork, because that's what it's derived from, but he doesn't have any reactions to other pork products. In fact, nothing in particular seems to make him sick, it just seems to be random. Vomiting is at least a daily thing, a part of our routine.

    I am now feeding him lamb formula dog food, supplemented with naturvet digestive enzymes an probiotics (basically a much, much less concentrated version of pancrezyme). His worst problem is his endurance, which is very low at this time. He can't do much of anything, or he's sick for days. He's always sort of weak and sleepy. He was at one point up to 97lbs, but now I can't get him to exceed 85.

    It's not totally debilitating, we still do what we like to do, I just have to be careful about how much we do. He's certainly not going to be the performance dog I had hoped for, but that's okay. We do what we can!

    Welsh, you must pm me with the details, please!
     
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    Was really hoping not to an update like that :(. Did they do any scans or anything to look at his pancreas? Someone from another forum just joined here who has a GSD with EPI (Shelteez), it was the first time I had ever heard of it and some of the article I looked at showed in surgery photos of the damaged pancreas, it's not a good condition, but it's strange that he isn't able to eat the digestive aid?

    And have you stopped vaccines? I personally at this point wouldn't give him anymore, especially Rabies if possible. Last time Jinjo had a rabies vac it threw him over the edge, I'm once again trying to clear him of a bad bacterial infection in the ears, and he hasn't stopped hacking from allergies. But Vaccines will mess with the immune system and have known to cause autoimmune disorders in rare cases.

    Sending you a PM, hope it helps a little for the future.
     

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