UK looks at banning yet more breeds

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  1. Bahamutt99

    Bahamutt99 Dafuq?

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    Huh. I wonder why their law isn't working?

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    Government told to ban more breeds


    Last Updated: 2:06am GMT 30/12/2007



    The Government is facing calls to review the Dangerous Dogs Act, which was introduced after a spate of attacks by "devil dogs".

    The law, imposed in 1991, outlawed four breeds as pets - but rottweilers were not one of them.

    The banned breeds were pit bull terriers, Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino and Fila Brasileiro.

    The Liberal Democrats said yesterday the law was not working and that other potentially dangerous breeds may need to be added to the list, or owners may need to be licensed.

    The Government said, however, that it had no plans to amend the legislation or add rottweilers to the list of banned breeds

    Chris Huhne, the Lib Dem home affairs spokesman, said: "A review should look at the breeds to be banned."


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/30/nrott230.xml
     
  2. Dizzy

    Dizzy Sit! Good dog.

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    Lib Dems haven't had power.............. well ever I don't think LOL
     
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    http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2007/12/child-killed-by.html

    More bans + more laws = less dogs. It's a simple equation, I don't understand why people support laws that, if they continue in the same ilk, will end dog ownership for all.

    The most disturbing thing to me (and I wish I had saved some examples of it) is that what is presented to the public as a simple law to improve the life of animals, usually carrys extra's that the average Joe won't investigate. These little "add ons" slide right through with the original legislation unnoticed.

    Don't take what's presented at face value, find the exact legislation and read the fine print. It's flippin scary!
     
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    I thought the numbers for the UK were bad!

    Then I saw the numbers for Scotland! :yikes:

    How much more proof do they need that bans don't prevent attacks!
     
  5. Lilavati

    Lilavati Arbitrary and Capricious

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    All I can say is that someone is unclear on the concept here. Sigh.
     
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    It's not that they are unclear on the concept its just that they are lazy and want an EASY solution. Unfortunately this is the mindset of many today, including Americans. They want the Gov't to fix the problem. They want the Gov't to protect them. They want the Gov't to hold their hand and make it all better. People need to stop being whiny and helpless and start being responsible for their own actions. If you don't watch your kid and it wanders into the neighbors yard and the dog bites them, guess what! It's not the dog's fault....if some boys tease a dog through a fence and get bit...guess what!!! it's not the dog's fault. But the problem is people don't want to take the blame they want to pass the buck! They want someone ELSE to do something about it.
    People often look back in history and wonder how a country can allow their gov't so much power and control...well I have news for them, this is how it starts. Just like gun laws dog laws don't work. Just like so many useless stupid legislation it doesn't work. Start with the court system and the firvolous law suits, kick them out...and then start on the stupid half cocked legislation that does nothing but suck away constitutional rights. If people would just start managing themselves rather than trying to manage the world, we would all be so much better off.
     
  7. Renee750il

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    Butbutbutbut . . . that's just too obvious . . . and it would involve *GASP* being RESPONSIBLE . . . . not blaming someone else for all your screw-ups :yikes:
     
  8. I so agree with FrenchKissed. I have owned Rottweilers for nearly 20 years, and I have never had a single bite incident. I know MANY people who can say the same thing, many who have owned the breed for MUCH longer and in larger numbers than I have.

    Yet I feel the walls closing in on a daily basis. If Rottweilers do not join the APBT in the graveyard of extinct breeds within the next 20 years I will be surprised.

    Can't we just outlaw, restrict, or require huge insurance policies for stupid people instead? ;)
     
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    You would think that the obvious would assert itself at some point: that no matter what breed is outlawed, the people who caused the trouble in the first place will always find another breed to replace the banned one with . . . . or create new ones.
     
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    This is what I meant by unclear on the concept. The reason BSL doesn't work is that the DOGS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM. The owners and, to a lesser extent, the breeders are. (I say lesser because even a poorly bred dog can turn out ok with a good owner . . . in many cases, at least). They'll just keep banning dogs until all we can have are muzzled, caged Chihuahuas . . . and it still won't fix the problem.

    FK, I agree, except for one thing . . . they want an easy solution . . . and there are easy solutions that though odious, actually work . . . this is an odious easy solution that doesn't work . . . making is sheer raving stupidity . . . and cruel to boot.
     
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    Wouldn't that be nice.
     
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    Now why would we want to further empower and enrich one of the more corrupt industries in our midst? :eek:
     
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    Caller: "30....it's my brother."

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    Caller: "financial and political, I think. But partly common sense."

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    Caller: "I don't know. I don't think so."

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    Because if they suddenly required insurance for stupid people, everyone's rates would skyrocket, and they'd vote for Congress to smack down the insurance companies . . . and wouldn't THAT be satisfying?
     
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    The dangerous dogs act is a stupid law that was rushed into place, I really wish 'they' hadn't just dove in. As if that law has changed anything anyway other than the fact that some amazing dog breeds can't be legally owned :(.
     

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